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City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
Village Planning Committee Meeting Summary 
Z-58-24-8 
 
Date of VPC Meeting 
July 9, 2024 
Request From 
S-1 
Request To 
R1-10 
Proposal 
Single-family residential 
Location 
Approximately 710 feet north and 305 feet west of the 
northwest corner of 20th Avenue and South Mountain 
Avenue 
VPC Recommendation 
Continuance to August 13, 2024 
VPC Vote 
11-3 
 
Tremikus Muhammad left the meeting bringing quorum to 14 members (ten needed for a 
quorum). 
 
Nine members of the public registered to speak in opposition to this item and 19 
members of the public registered in opposition but did not wish to speak. Four members 
of the public donated their time to Jewel Clark, five members of the public donated their 
time to Jai Goudeau, and two members of the public donated their time to Julian Galindo. 
 
STAFF PRESENTATION 
 
Samuel Rogers, staff, presented the request, the location of the subject site, the 
surrounding context, the General Plan Land Use Map designation, the site plan, proposed 
elevations, the staff recommendation, the staff findings, and concluded by presenting the 
proposed stipulations. 
 
APPLICANT PRESENTATION 
 
John Fox, representing the applicant with William Seymour Co., presented the subject 
site, the proposal, the surrounding zoning, alignment with the General Plan, Rio Montaña 
Area Plan, and other policy plans, the existing conditions, the proposed landscape plan, 
elevations, and site plan, project benefits, and the public outreach.  
 
PUBLIC COMMENT 
 
Jewel Clark expressed concerns about the proposed development, stated concerns 
about the two-story homes, and stated that the high density of the project is out of 
character with the area. Ms. Clark stated that there was no mention of Accessory 
Dwelling Units (ADUs) in the applicant presentation and raised concerns about an 
additional 200 trips that the development would generate. Ms. Clark emphasized that the 
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area currently has an open feel which would be lost, leading to an increase in heat due to 
reduced open space. Ms. Clark questioned whether the homes would be for rent or sale 
and noted that many other homes are already being introduced into the area. Ms. Clark 
stated that the developer has not had good conversations with the neighbors. 
 
Jai Goudeau highlighted several issues, starting with the difficulty of turning left onto 
Baseline Road, which can take up to 15 minutes. Mr. Goudeau noted that the existing 
homes average 11,000 square feet, compared to the proposed 7,000 square feet. Mr. 
Goudeau stated he is not opposed to development with fewer homes and criticized the 
applicant for being unresponsive to working with the neighbors. Mr. Goudeau stated that 
large vehicles would struggle to maneuver and stated that the first meeting was too small, 
prompting him to request a second meeting. Mr. Goudeau explained that he reserved the 
room for the second neighborhood meeting. Mr. Goudeau also expressed concerns 
about the traffic circle eliminating street parking and mentioned that there are other 
places where such developments would make more sense. 
 
Jewel Clark stated that there is no guarantee that Dorothy, the property owner to the 
south, will move. Ms. Clark stated that the neighborhood is healthy and diverse and does 
not need this development. Ms. Clark pointed out that the first notification was not 
received within the required 10-day notice period, and no solutions were provided. 
 
Julian Galindo shared his experience as a resident for 15 years and expressed pride in 
the neighborhood. Mr. Galindo compared a traffic letter with a full traffic study and voiced 
opposition to the proposal. Mr. Galindo raised concerns about foot traffic, the safety of 
children, and the long-term issues related to extra traffic. 
 
Nicole Sordello stated she never received notice and suggested that there wouldn't be 
an empty chair in the room if the notification had been proper. Ms. Sordello expressed 
concerns about the impact of two-story homes on her privacy, noting that several lots will 
back up to her property. Ms. Sordello stated the project has multiple unknowns regarding 
rentals and HOA prohibitions on short-term rentals. 
 
Joe Hernandez stated there is already heavy traffic near his residence at the entrance of 
the subdivision to the north and stated that the proposal would make traffic worse. Mr. 
Hernandez questioned how construction crews would maneuver, stated that the 
neighborhood has been seeking to add an entry breezeway for the Wyndham Square 
neighborhood, and expressed disappointment that new subdivision name may end up on 
the breezeway too.  
 
Mike Josic stated that the applicant does not own the property, and the sale is 
contingent on the rezoning being approved. Mr. Josic mentioned the lack of discussion 
on ADUs, which could result in about 40 households, and raised traffic concerns. Mr. 
Josic argued that two-story buildings are inappropriate and stated that 20th Lane would 
not likely connect to South Mountain Avenue in the near future because Dorothy, the

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property owner to the south, is not likely to move soon. Mr. Josic urged the committee to 
reject the request and stated that the proposal is the wrong project in the wrong place. 
 
Funyung Mon stated concerns about increases traffic, expressed frustration with the 
already terrible traffic, and noted that her insurance quote increased by 20% due to the 
area's high accident rate. 
 
Monica Garcia stated she is a housing lawyer, stated the neighborhood had endured 
half-built houses being built and flooding issues. Ms. Garcia stated traffic concerns, 
stated that the homes are small, stated that insurance premiums will keep going up, and 
asked the VPC to oppose to the project.  
 
Candice McDonald Ramsey stated she works for Corporate America, clarified that she 
is not trying to hinder the City's progress and understands the need for homeownership. 
Ms. Ramsey expressed a willingness to compromise and highlighted the potential upside 
for existing homeowners. Ms. Ramsey acknowledged that small homes could be a good 
product but considered them inferior to existing homes. Ms. Ramsey stated concerns 
about construction vehicle presence, stated she appreciated the VPC hearing the 
community, and stated she feels that the applicant was not listening to their voices. 
 
Jacques Phelps spoke about the diversity in the area, mentioning that he had just 
closed on a home. Mr. Phelps expressed concern that the project would adversely impact 
home values and the recent investment, negatively affecting his family and what he has 
built. 
 
Chair Trent Marchuk noted for the record that 29 cards had been submitted in 
opposition to the proposed development, with 0 cards in support. Chair Marchuk also 
reported that a petition opposing the development had gathered 63 signatures, 31 letters 
of opposition were received, and explained that of the 52 homes in the Wyndham Square 
neighborhood, 29 residents were in opposition to the proposal. 
 
APPLICANT RESPONSE 
 
Mr. Fox stated that South Mountain is a large area where R1-10 zoning is appropriate 
and explained that the size of the lots is based on the Planned Residential Development 
(PRD) option for R1-10. Mr. Fox emphasized that the project is designed to prevent water 
from flowing into the neighborhood to the north. Mr. Fox acknowledged concerns about 
the presence of two-story homes but stated that there are two-story homes in the 
subdivision to the north. Mr. Fox clarified that the project has never been intended as a 
rental community or proposed to include Accessory Dwelling Units (ADUs). Mr. Fox 
expressed frustration, suggesting that the opposition indicates a reluctance to be good 
neighbors. Mr. Fox affirmed that the development would consist of quality homes and 
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Mr. Goudeau responded by acknowledging the presence of two-story homes in the area. 
Mr. Goudeau expressed concerns that the proposed retention measures might create 
issues for existing homes. 
 
QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE 
 
Committee Member Busching asked if the applicant is interested in continuing the case 
to allow more time to work with the community. Mr. Fox stated that he does not think he 
can go through the process another time.  
 
Committee Member Darlene Jackson remarked that Phoenix is growing and 
emphasized the goal of building a healthy and connected city. Committee Member 
Jackson inquired whether the project would contribute to building a healthy community. 
Mr. Fox stated that the project includes connected sidewalks and open space and stated 
that detached sidewalks could be removed to widen the street. Committee Member 
Jackson questioned if it is fair to take away something to give something. Mr. Fox stated 
that when the neighborhood to the north bought their homes Baseline Road was already 
there.  
 
Committee Member Kay Shepard asked why a Traffic Statement was used instead of a 
Traffic Impact Analysis (TIA). Mr. Rogers explained that a Traffic Statement is 
appropriate for smaller developments, but not for larger ones. Committee Member 
Shepard asked what the current width of 20th Lane is. Mr. Fox explained that the current 
street is 28 feet wide. Committee Member Shepard stated that the development should 
not include two-story homes. 
 
Committee Member Edward Aldama stated that the original question was about 
walkability and questioned why the conversation had shifted to needing wider street that 
do not help with walkability. Committee Member Aldama stated that detached sidewalks 
would improve walkability and that people generally avoid cul-de-sacs. Aldama 
advocated for the future residents and stated that he believes the proposed walkability 
would be adequate and traffic would not have a significant impact. 
 
Committee Member Kassandra Alvarez stated that the South Mountain VPC has high 
standards for community engagement, asked what issues were encountered while 
working with the community, and inquired about the timeframe for connecting to South 
Mountain Avenue. Mr. Fox indicated that the Wallace Group is building high-end 
products in the area and stated that the timeframe for the project is to move forward as 
soon as possible, aiming to start around the beginning of next year. Committee Member 
Alvarez further asked about the timeframe for connecting to South Mountain Avenue. Mr. 
Fox stated that the connection to South Mountain Avenue is not an empty promise, 
stated that the timing of Dorothy’s move is uncertain, and noted that the City of Phoenix 
requires 20th Lane to be built for an eventual connection to South Mountain Avenue. Mr. 
Fox acknowledged difficulties in working with neighborhoods, stated that his team is not

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willing to change the proposed density, and stated that his team is open to adjusting lot 
sizes. 
 
Committee Member Gene Holmerud stated that the proposal will add 20 residences to 
the existing 52 residences that access the neighborhood via Baseline Road and asked 
how the access compares other developments over the past ten years. Chair Marchuk 
asked how many homes accessed Baseline Road on the self-storage special permit case 
on 41st Street and Baseline Road. Mr. Rogers stated that over 100 homes access 
Baseline Road via 41st Street and stated that he does not have statistics on access. 
Committee Member Tamala Daniels stated that the VPC had approved subdivisions 
with limited access in the past. Committee Member Emma Viera argued that precedent 
should not dictate future decisions and emphasized the importance of unity within the 
community. Committee Member Viera expressed a desire for the developer to be 
invested in working with the community. Mr. Fox stated that if the neighborhood would 
work with him, he would reciprocate and stated that both two-story and one-story homes 
are planned. 
 
Chair Marchuk asked the development team if they are open to stipulating a ratio of the 
homes be one-story. Mr. Fox stated that the ratio could be stipulated and stated that the 
mix of heights is determined by the builder. 
 
Committee Member T. Daniels stated that the site to the north is also zoned R1-10 but 
has different dimensions. Mr. Fox explained the proposal is utilizing the Planned 
Residential Development option. Committee Member T. Daniels highlighted that 
surrounding sites are R1-10, expressed that people seem unhappy with the access being 
through the development, and asked if there is any stipulation requiring that the proposed 
subdivision eventually connect to South Mountain Avenue. Mr. Rogers explained that, 
per Stipulation No. 12, the City is requiring a temporary turn around at the terminus of 
20th Lane that would eventually connect to South Mountain Avenue. Committee Member 
Busching asked for clarification on Stipulation No. 12. Mr. Rogers explained Stipulation 
No. 12 and explained the City would require 20th Lane to connect to South Mountain 
Avenue if the property to the south develops with a use such as a subdivision, but not if a 
use such as a single-family home is proposed. 
 
Committee Member Busching inquired about the owner of the property to the south and 
asked if an access easement across the property to the south is a possibility. Mr. Fox 
stated that the subject site is owned by the same owner of the property to the south and 
explained that an access easement would be a burden on the property owner to the 
south. Committee Member T. Daniels asked why the property owner to the south would 
put an easement on a home she currently lives in. Committee Member Busching 
explained that the property owner to the south could sell an access easement at the 
same time she sells the subject site.  
 
Committee Member T. Daniels stated that when the development to the north was 
rezoned, there were likely complaints from S-1 property owners in the area, explained

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there is always resistance to smaller housing products, and stated that it is unfair to 
prohibit two-story homes when the neighboring area has two-story structures. Vice Chair 
Arthur Greathouse III proposed stipulating that no two-story homes be placed next to 
each other. Committee Member T. Daniels stated that it could be stipulated that no two-
story home can be next to each other if the developer is willing to offer the concession. 
 
Committee Member T. Daniels asked about using flood maps to address retention 
issues. Mr. Fox responded that the proposed retention basins will maintain any onsite 
water, stated that flows would be monitored by the City of Phoenix, and explained that 
the development team was required to overlay the flood maps during their assessment. 
Mr. Fox stated that he is willing to work with the neighborhood on anything other than 
reducing the proposed density.  
 
Committee Member Aldama asked if the development would improve flooding issues in 
the immediate area. Mr. Fox confirmed the retention basins would improve water issues.  
 
Committee Member Jackson expressed concerns about the number of proposed units 
and stated that traffic concerns are not being addressed. 
 
Committee Member Holmerud stated that there was a question about requiring a ratio 
of single-story and two-story homes, stated that in the past the VPC had stipulated that 
two-story homes be in the center of the development, and stated that the stipulation will 
not work on the proposed development because of the small site size.  
 
Chair Marchuk explained that the proposal is technically R1-10, but the housing product 
is more similar to an R1-6 product, stated that the density in the area ranges from 2.5 to 
3.5 units per acre, and stated that proposed 4 units per acre seems aggressive. Chair 
Marchuk stressed the importance of community engagement and proposed taking a 
month-long break to continue the case to allow more time to work with the community. 
Mr. Fox agreed to continue the case and suggested that a mediator be present at the 
next neighborhood meeting. 
 
Committee Member T. Daniels asked if information on the Rio Montaña Area Plan could 
be distributed to the applicant and asked for clarification on the proposed density bonus. 
Mr. Rogers explained that additionally amenities can be provided in exchange for a 
higher allowed density. Committee Member T. Daniels asked if the proposal had been 
reviewed to ensure the proposed bonus points would allow the proposed density. Mr. 
Rogers explained that the final assessment of bonus points would be determined through 
the development review process. Chair Marchuk ask what the proposed density is. Mr. 
Rogers explained the proposed density is 4.4 units per acre. Committee Member T. 
Daniels asked about the proposal’s compliance with development standards such as 
setbacks. Mr. Rogers explained that a site plan showing home locations was not 
provided.

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FLOOR/PUBLIC DISCUSSION CLOSED: MOTION, DISCUSSION, AND VOTE 
 
MOTION 
Committee Member Kay Shepard made a motion to continue Z-58-24-8 to the August 
13, 2024 South Mountain Village Planning Committee Meeting. Committee Member 
George Brooks seconded the motion.  
 
VOTE 
11-3, motion to recommend a continuance of Z-58-24-8 passes with with Committee 
Members Aldama, Alvarez, Brooks, Busching, F. Daniels, T. Daniels, Holmerud, Jackson, 
Shepard, Greathouse, and Chair Marchuk in favor and Falcon, F. Muhammed Roque, 
Viera opposed. 
 
Committee Member Alvarez expressed hope that the relationship with the community 
could be repaired. 
 
Committee Member Petra Falcon mentioned that the community had not been treated 
well and stated the community has said this project is not suitable for the location. 
 
Committee Member Holmerud stated that stipulating a percentage of two-story homes 
will not work in the location. 
 
Committee Member Jackson advocated for fewer homes and more open space. 
 
Vice Chair Greathouse III encouraged collaboration. Chair Marchuk echoed Vice Chair 
Greathouse and encouraged collaboration from the applicant and the neighborhood. 
 
Committee Member Falcon observed that community members left the meeting and did 
not get to hear the results.  
 
Committee Member T. Daniels explained that if the vote were to reject the project, it 
would not stop the development process and stated that Arizona has various housing 
formations. Committee Member T. Daniels mentioned the skyrocketing housing market, 
the developer’s agreement to return, and the importance of creating a win-win situation. 
Committee Member T. Daniels encouraged everyone to bring a positive attitude to the 
discussion 
  
 
STAFF COMMENTS REGARDING VPC RECOMMENDATION: 
 
None.

City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
Village Planning Committee Meeting Summary 
Z-58-24-8 
 
Date of VPC Meeting 
August 13, 2024 
Request From 
S-1 
Request To 
R1-10 
Proposal 
Single-family residential 
Location 
Approximately 710 feet north and 305 feet west of the 
northwest corner of 20th Avenue and South Mountain 
Avenue 
VPC Recommendation 
Continuance to September 10, 2024 
VPC Vote 
12-0 
 
Committee Member Tamala Daniels joined the meeting bringing quorum to 12 members 
(ten needed for a quorum). 
 
Six members of the public registered to speak in opposition to this item and 12 members 
of the public registered in opposition but did not wish to speak. Four members of the 
public donated their time to Jewel Clark and three members of the public donated their 
time to Jai Goudeau. 
 
Chair Trent Marchuk explained that the applicant for case Z-58-24 reached out to 
request a continuance to the September 10, 2024 South Mountain Village Planning 
Committee meeting. Chair Marchuk stated that a continuance was granted in the last 
meeting and noted that the applicant has been working with the community but that 
progress still needs to be made. Chair Marchuk stated the applicant is hopeful that 
another month will yield the necessary progress, thanked the community members for 
attending the meeting, and asked staff for clarification on the process. 
 
Samuel Rogers, staff, explained that a motion to continue the case could be made. 
 
FLOOR/PUBLIC DISCUSSION CLOSED: MOTION, DISCUSSION, AND VOTE 
 
MOTION 
Committee Member Kay Shepard made a motion to continue Z-58-24-8 to the 
September 10, 2024 South Mountain Village Planning Committee Meeting. Committee 
Member George Brooks seconded the motion.  
 
VOTE 
12-0, motion to recommend a continuance of Z-58-24-8 passes with with Committee 
Members Aldama, Beehler, Brooks, Brownell, Busching, T. Daniels, Holmerud, Jackson, 
Shepard, Viera, Vice Chair Greathouse, and Chair Marchuk in favor.

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Chair Trent Marchuk stated for the record that 17 comment cards had been received in 
opposition to the project and thanked the community for attending. 
 
Committee Member Marcia Busching emphasized the importance of ensuring that 
people in attendance are aware of the ongoing negotiations and are able to participate. 
Chair Marchuk stated his understanding that two individuals were appointed by the 
community to be their representatives in the negotiations and added that others are 
welcome to participate. Chair Marchuk asked about the process for people to get 
involved. Mr. Rogers informed the committee that community members could reach out 
to himself, the Chair, or the applicant to get involved. 
 
Committee Member Brooks asked why there are still so many people in attendance 
who are in opposition if progress is being made. Chair Marchuk stated that the need for 
continued negotiation is the reason the applicant requested a continuance. 
 
Committee Member Tamala Daniels inquired about the requirement for community 
notification when a continuance is going to be requested. Committee Member Brooks 
suggested that there should be a timeline to ensure people are informed when a 
continuance is going to be requested. Chair Marchuk stated that the community 
representatives were informed about the continuance as soon as he had heard. 
Committee Member Greg Brownell commented that the community representatives are 
not the only people who represent the community given the number of people in 
attendance. Committee Member Gene Holmerud stated that the issue could be 
resolved with a real-time website but acknowledged that this would be a significant 
undertaking. 
 
Committee Member T. Daniels asked how long prior to the meeting applicants are 
required to inform the committee that a continuance is planned to be requested. Mr. 
Rogers stated that applicants are allowed to request continuances up to the meeting 
itself. Mr. Rogers explained that while it would be prudent to inform the community 
earlier, there is no regulation requiring this. Committee Member Brooks asked what the 
process would be to implement a new rule requiring earlier notification for continuances. 
Mr. Rogers stated that he would have to follow up on the topic. 
 
 
STAFF COMMENTS REGARDING VPC RECOMMENDATION: 
 
None.

City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
Village Planning Committee Meeting Summary 
Z-58-24-8 
 
Date of VPC Meeting 
September 10, 2024 
Request From 
S-1 
Request To 
R1-10 
Proposal 
Single-family residential 
Location 
Approximately 710 feet north and 305 feet west of the 
northwest corner of 20th Avenue and South Mountain 
Avenue 
VPC Recommendation 
Approval, per the staff recommendation with additional 
stipulations 
VPC Vote 
7-5 
 
12 members of the public registered to speak in opposition to this item and 10 members 
of the public registered in opposition but did not wish to speak. Four members of the 
public donated their time to Jewel Clark and four members of the public donated their 
time to Jai Goudeau. 
 
STAFF PRESENTATION 
 
Samuel Rogers, staff, presented the request, the location of the subject site, the 
surrounding context, the General Plan Land Use Map designation, the site plan, 
proposed elevations, the staff recommendation, the staff findings, and concluded by 
presenting the proposed stipulations. 
 
APPLICANT PRESENTATION 
 
John Fox, representing the applicant, presented the history of the rezoning process, 
including his attendance at two previous Village Planning Committee (VPC) meetings. 
Mr. Fox stated that the City is recommending approval of the rezoning request, explained 
that his team had provided a site plan to the neighbors that reduced the number of units 
from 20 to 18, explained that he had received additional stipulations from neighborhood 
representatives asking for a 16-unit proposal, explained he thought his team and the 
neighbors could meet in the middle with an 18-unit proposal, and explained that his team 
is now proposing a 20-unit development. 
 
PUBLIC COMMENT 
 
Chair Trent Marchuk noted that there were 22 cards in opposition to the project, with no 
cards in support and explained that five cards were submitted to Jai Goudeau, five to 
Jewel Clark, and one card to Mike Josic.

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Jewel Clark explained where she lives and stated that she has consistently opposed an 
18-unit development. Ms. Clark asked Mr. Fox about compliance with the Rio Montaña 
Plan, expressed concerns about preserving the character of the area, and referenced 
City of Phoenix policy plans that emphasize compatibility. Ms. Clark explained that she is 
not opposed to a development but wants a development that fits the neighborhood. Ms. 
Clark explained that she would support the proposal if it included stipulations provided by 
the neighborhood representatives. Committee Member Marcia Busching asked how 
the proposed neighborhood stipulations were developed and if they came from City of 
Phoenix policy plans or previous cases. Ms. Clark explained that many of the 
neighborhood requested stipulations came from the Rio Montaña Plan and other 
rezoning cases in the area.  
 
Julian Galindo explained he attended the meeting with the developer and that the 
neighborhood had been against an 18-unit proposal, explained he is a civil engineer, and 
stated that he has concerns about stormwater management and the project’s density. 
Committee Member Busching asked a question regarding the retaining wall. Mr. 
Galindo confirmed that he advocated for the stipulation regarding the retaining wall and 
explained that the retaining wall will help to mitigate flooding concerns. Committee 
Member Busching asked whether Mr. Fox was in opposition to the stipulation. Mr. 
Galindo responded that the stipulation had been discussed but not agreed to. 
 
Committee Member Greg Brownell inquired about the project's floodplain review. Mr. 
Rogers explained that the project had gone through a preliminary floodplain review, but a 
full grading and drainage review will occur when the development comes in for permitting. 
Chair Marchuk stated that the existing homes to the north are four feet lower than the 
proposed development, explained that the retaining wall will mitigate flooding issues, and 
explained that Mr. Fox had agreed to the retaining wall in concept.  
 
Kara Moreno echoed other neighbors’ concerns regarding the proposed development 
and explained concerns about the impact of the development if additional street access is 
not provided. Ms. Moreno emphasized the potential safety risks associated with 
construction activities, including traffic and car safety. Ms. Moreno also raised concerns 
about the increased length of the street, which she believed could encourage faster 
driving, potentially leading to safety hazards due to speeding vehicles. 
 
Jai Goudeau explained that he owns the first home built in the neighborhood to the 
north, highlighted ongoing flooding issues, and stated traffic accidents occur every 2.5 
days at 19th Avenue and Baseline Road. Mr. Goudeau expressed concerns about the 
proposed street length and the temporary turnaround in the development, noting potential 
difficulties for large trucks navigating the roundabout. Mr. Goudeau explained that the 
community proposed several design alternatives and stated the developer backed out of 
negotiations at the last minute. Mr. Goudeau expressed concerns about the meeting 
noticing, stated that the HOA failed to send timely notices, and stated more neighbors 
would be in attendance if they had been properly noticed. Mr. Goudeau stated that he is

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not opposed to building a community, emphasized that all traffic from the new 
development would flow through Wyndham Square, and explained the development 
would effectively an extension of the Wyndham Square neighborhood. 
 
Mike Josic voiced his understanding of the housing crisis but argued that reducing the 
number of homes by four would not significantly impact the crisis. Mr. Josic emphasized 
that the proposed development feels unfair to current residents and urged the committee 
to vote against it. 
 
APPLICANT RESPONSE 
 
Mr. Fox provided examples of other developments in the area that were not held to the 
same requirements the neighborhood is asking his team to comply with. Mr. Fox 
explained that the neighborhood’s stipulations were received too late and that the staff is 
already stipulating that the site plan, elevations, and landscape plan be reviewed by the 
Planning Hearing Officer (PHO) and the South Mountain VPC. Mr. Fox explained that the 
Rio Montaña plan is an older plan and explained that he disagrees with some of the 
stipulations but stated that he is open to compromise on others. 
 
QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE 
 
Committee Member Coleman asked when other subdivisions Mr. Fox referenced were 
built. Mr. Fox explained that they were constructed within the last 15 to 20 years. 
 
Committee Member Beehler asked if Mr. Fox was the purchaser or the owner of the 
property, who owns the parcel to the south, and asked about a potential access 
easement across the parcel to the south. Mr. Fox explained that he is in escrow for the 
purchase of the subject site, explained that the property owner also owns the parcel to 
the south, and stated the owner is not open to an access easement across the property 
to the south.  
 
Chair Marchuk asked staff to explain the City's perspective on the street termination. Mr. 
Rogers explained that the proposed street must be designed to accommodate a future 
connection to the parcel to the south and stated that most potential uses for the southern 
parcel, aside from a single-family home, would require this connection to the subject site. 
 
Committee Member Busching asked if Mr. Fox was amenable to any of the 
neighborhood’s stipulations. Mr. Fox explained which stipulations his team is not okay 
with and others he is willing to accept. 
 
Committee Member Coleman asked if Mr. Fox was willing to comply with a retaining 
wall if approved by grading and drainage standards. Mr. Fox affirmed that he would 
comply if necessary.

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Chair Marchuk mentioned that although the stipulation language was new, the content 
had been received on Sunday. 
 
Committee Member Petra Falcon asked if the current plan was the one that the 
Planning Commission would see. Mr. Rogers explained that the stipulations are written 
so that the plans will come back in front of the VPC through the PHO process and 
explained that Mr. Fox may provide updated plans for the Planning Commission hearing.  
 
Committee Kay Shepard asked about the VPC’s ability to stipulate to a specific site 
plan. Mr. Rogers confirmed that the VPC can stipulate conformance to a site plan. 
Committee Member Busching asked if there was an updated site plan. Mr. Rogers 
confirmed that the applicant had submitted an updated site plan date stamped 
September 5, 2024 and stated the site plan was included in the slide deck he had sent to 
the VPC.  
 
Committee Member Greg Brownell expressed concerns about denying the case and it 
getting approved at the next hearing body without the VPC’s input. Committee Member 
Brownell emphasized the need for more discussion, stated that an old plan does not 
imply a weaker plan, and clarified that the overlay is not law but guidance. Committee 
Member Brownell explained that if the committee opposes this, they are essentially out of 
the discussion, expressed a preference to keep the case at the committee level, 
explained that both citizens and the builder will need to compromise, and explained he 
would like the development team to return with a proposal that the committee can vote 
on. 
 
Committee Member Beehler stated that the VPC should deny the project, stated the 
proposal does not adequately address key access issues to Baseline Road. expressed a 
belief that the property owner is selling prematurely, and explained that the owner should 
sell the entire property. 
 
Committee Member Holmerud stated that most arguments against the development 
focus on perceived shortcomings and explained that the fact previous developments 
were not held to the same standards should not prevent negotiations on the proposed 
project.  
 
Committee Member Brownell stated that the committee should not decline the proposal 
and recommended continuing the case and explained that declining the project would 
result in losing the opportunity for the VPC to impact the development. 
 
Committee Member Beehler expressed that this project is unsuitable for the site at this 
time and reiterated the recommendation to decline. 
 
Committee Member Busching mentioned her usual support for the neighborhood but 
expressed a different perspective due to the relatively small community. Committee 
Member Busching explained that people have the right to buy and develop land and

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referenced that the Wyndham Square builder had constructed the development with a 
stub road intended to connect to the adjacent parcel to the south. Committee Member 
Busching acknowledged the hard work of the neighbors and the VPC and stated she 
would like to make a motion to approve the rezoning request with additional stipulations. 
 
Committee Member Holmerud questioned the financial viability of a project with 16 lots. 
Chair Marchuk stated that his understanding is that 18 lots is the minimum acceptable 
for the development.  
 
Chair Marchuk echoed Committee Member Busching, explained that VPC members, the 
applicant, and community representatives had been meeting weekly since the previous 
month’s continuance of the case, and explained that the applicant declined to attend the 
final meeting. Chair Marchuk explained that the site plan had been extensively reviewed 
and explained that the layout makes the most sense with the current parcel dimensions. 
Chair Marchuk stated that negotiations were going well until the neighborhood provided a 
list of stipulations they would like considered, stated there was not adequate time to vet 
the neighborhood stipulations, stated there is still an opportunity for negotiation, and 
stated it may be premature to pass the project in its current form. 
 
Committee Member Shepard stated that 18 lots are the bottom line for the developer, 
while 16 lots are the maximum for the community and expressed skepticism about any 
potential movement by either party on the proposal. 
 
Committee Member Beehler explained there are ongoing access issues and expressed 
concern about burdening neighbors with additional traffic. 
 
Committee Member Shepard inquired about the traffic generated by an 18-lot 
subdivision per day. Mr. Fox stated that traffic was analyzed by peak hour trips, not per 
day. 
 
FLOOR/PUBLIC DISCUSSION CLOSED: MOTION, DISCUSSION, AND VOTE 
 
MOTION 
Committee Member Mark Beehler made a motion to deny Z-58-24-8. Committee 
Member Gene Holmerud seconded the motion.  
 
VOTE 
4-8, motion to recommend denial of Z-58-24-8 fails with Committee Members Beehler, 
Coleman, F. Daniels, and Holmerud in favor and Committee Members Brooks, Brownell, 
Busching, Falcon, T. Muhammad, Shepard, Greathouse, and Marchuk in opposition.  
 
MOTION 
Committee Member Marcia Busching made a motion to approve Z-58-24-8 with 
additional stipulations. Committee Member Lee Coleman seconded the motion.

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VOTE 
7-5, motion to recommend approval of Z-58-24-8 with additional stipulations passed with 
Committee Members Committee Members Busching, Coleman, Falcon, Holmerud T. 
Muhammad, Shepard, and Greathouse in favor and Committee Members Beehler, 
Brooks, Brownell, F. Daniels, and Marchuk and in opposition.  
 
Vice Chair Greathouse explained that he had been a part of the process, including 
multiple iterations of the site plan, and stated it is unfortunate to have reached this point. 
Vice Chair Greathouse explained that good collaboration had been happening but was 
lost along the way. Vice Chair Greathouse stated that this is the most logical and feasible 
plan and wished there was more support, as a lot of work had gone into reaching this 
point. Vice Chair Greathouse emphasized that nobody was going to win everything or 
concede on every negotiation point and stated his support for the project. 
 
Chair Marchuk stated that he would be voting in opposition to the motion to approve and 
explained there are several unresolved questions that should have been addressed and 
still have the potential to be resolved. 
 
VPC recommended stipulations: 
 
1. 
The conceptual site plan and landscape plan for future development of the site 
shall be reviewed and approved by the Planning Hearing Officer through the 
public hearing process, including review by the South Mountain Village 
Planning Committee, for stipulation modification prior to preliminary site plan 
approval. This is a legislative review for conceptual purposes only. Specific 
development standards and requirements will be determined by the Planning 
Hearing Officer and the Planning and Development Department. 
 
 
2. 
The conceptual elevations for future development of the site shall be reviewed 
and approved by the Planning Hearing Officer through the public hearing 
process, including review by the South Mountain Village Planning Committee, 
for stipulation modification prior to final site plan approval. This is a legislative 
review for conceptual purposes only. Specific development standards and 
requirements will be determined by the Planning Hearing Officer and the 
Planning and Development Department. 
 
 
3. 
Prior to preliminary plat approval, documentation shall be provided that 
demonstrates participation in the Environmental Protection Agency’s 
WaterSense certification program, or an equivalent program, as approved by 
the Planning and Development and Water Services departments. 
 
 
4. 
A WaterSense inspection report from a third-party verifier shall be submitted 
that demonstrates successful participation in the Environmental Protection 
Agency’s WaterSense certification program, or an equivalent program, prior to

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certificate of occupancy, as approved by the Planning and Development 
Department. 
 
 
5. 
Only landscape materials listed in the Phoenix Active Management Area Low-
Water-Use/Drought-Tolerant Plant List shall be utilized in the common areas 
and within the front yards of individual residential lots, as approved or modified 
by the Planning and Development Department. 
 
 
6. 
Natural turf shall only be utilized on individual single-family lots (behind the 
front yard); required retention areas (bottom of basin); and functional turf areas 
within common areas, as approved by the Planning and Development 
Department. 
 
 
7. 
Pressure regulating sprinkler heads and/or drip lines shall be utilized in any turf 
areas to reduce water waste. 
 
 
8. 
A minimum of two green infrastructure (GI) techniques for stormwater 
management shall be implemented per the Greater Phoenix Metro Green 
Infrastructure and Low-Impact Development Details for Alternative Stormwater 
Management, as approved or modified by the Planning and Development 
Department. 
 
 
9. 
Participation in the City of Phoenix Homeowner’s Association Water Efficiency 
Program shall be incorporated into to Covenants, Conditions, and Restrictions 
for the subdivision, prior to final site plan approval. 
 
 
10. 
Swimming pools on individual single-family lots shall be limited to 600 square 
feet in size. 
 
 
11. 
A minimum 50 feet of right-of-way shall be dedicated and constructed for the 
full width of 20th Lane for the full length of the subject site, connecting to the 
southern adjacent parcel.   
 
 
12. 
A minimum 50-foot radius easement shall be dedicated and a minimum 45-foot 
radius temporary turnaround shall be constructed at the southern terminus of 
20th Lane. Alternatively, a permanent turn around design may be considered 
and shall include a center landscaped island, designed to City of Phoenix 
standards, as approved by the Street Transportation Department. 
 
 
13. 
All streets within and adjacent to the development shall be constructed with 
paving, curb, gutter, sidewalk, curb ramps, streetlights, median islands, 
landscaping and other incidentals, as per plans approved by the Planning and 
Development Department. All improvements shall comply with all ADA 
accessibility standards.

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14. 
The property owner shall record documents that disclose the existence, and 
operational characteristics of Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport to future owners or 
tenants of the property. The form and content of such documents shall be 
according to the templates and instructions provided which have been reviewed 
and approved by the City Attorney. 
 
 
15. 
In the event archeological materials are encountered during construction, the 
developer shall immediately cease all ground-disturbing activities within a 33-
foot radius of the discovery, notify the City Archeologist, and allow time for the 
Archeology Office to properly assess the materials. 
 
 
16. 
Prior to final site plan approval, the landowner shall execute a Proposition 207 
waiver of claims form. The waiver shall be recorded with the Maricopa County 
Recorder's Office and delivered to the City to be included in the rezoning 
application file for record. 
 
 
17. 
THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF 18 UNITS. 
 
 
18. 
A MINIMUM OF 30% OF BUILDING ELEVATIONS SHALL INCLUDE 
COVERED PORCHES IN THE FRONT YARD AND REAR YARD AT A 
MINIMUM OF SIXTY SQUARE FEET EACH AND AT A DEPTH OF AT 
LEAST SIX FEET, AS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND 
DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. 
 
 
19. 
THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FOR 80% OF THE LOTS SHALL BE 
LIMITED TO ONE STORY AND 26 FEET, AS APPROVED BY THE 
PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. 
 
 
20. 
THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT SHALL BE TWO-STORIES AND 32 
FEET, AS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT 
DEPARTMENT. 
 
 
21. 
A MINIMUM OF 8% OF THE GROSS PROJECT AREA SHALL BE 
RETAINED AS COMMON AREA, AS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND 
DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. 
 
 
22. 
BUILDING ELEVATIONS SHALL CONTAIN MULTIPLE COLORS, 
EXTERIOR ACCENT MATERIALS AND TEXTURAL CHANGES THAT 
EXHIBIT QUALITY AND DURABILITY SUCH AS BRICK, STONE, 
COLORED TEXTURED CONCRETE OR STUCCO, OR OTHER MATERIALS 
TO PROVIDE A DECORATIVE AND AESTHETIC TREATMENT, AS 
APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

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23. 
ALL STREET-FACING GARAGE DOORS LENGTHS SHALL BE LESS THAN 
50% OF THE TOTAL WIDTH OF THE FAÇADE, AS APPROVED BY THE 
PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. 
 
 
24. 
FRONT SETBACKS FOR COVERED BUILDING ELEMENTS SHALL BE 
STAGGERED BY A MINIMUM OF 5 FEET, AS APPROVED BY THE 
PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT 
 
 
25. 
LOT WIDTHS SHALL VARY, AS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND 
DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. 
 
 
26. 
THE SOUTHERN END OF THE STREET SHALL HAVE LANDSCAPING AND 
ROD IRON VIEW FENCING TO ENHANCE THE VIEW OF SOUTH 
MOUNTAIN, UNTIL 20TH LANE IS CONSTRUCTED TO THE SOUTH OF 
THE PROPERTY, AS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND 
DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. 
 
 
27. 
A RETAINING WALL SHALL BE PROVIDED ALONG THE NORTHERN 
BOUNDARY OF TRACT A, AS APPROVED OR MODIFIED BY THE 
PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.  
 
 
28. 
THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE IN GENERAL CONFORMANCE WITH THE 
SITE PLAN DATE STAMPED SEPTEMBER 5, 2024, AS MODIFIED BY THE 
ABOVE STIPULATIONS AND AS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND 
DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.   
 
STAFF COMMENTS REGARDING VPC RECOMMENDATION: 
 
Staff recommends that Stipulation No. 20 be deleted, as it seeks to limit the height of 
the development to 32 feet. The maximum height permitted with the R1-10 Zoning 
District is two stories and 30 feet and cannot be exceeded via a rezoning stipulation. 
Since the maximum height requirement of 30 feet will apply, a stipulation limiting the 
height to 30 feet is extraneous.