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City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
Village Planning Committee Meeting Summary 
Z-117-23-7
Date of VPC Meeting 
March 11, 2024 
Request From 
DTC-Van Buren 
Request To 
DTC-Van Buren HP 
Proposal 
Historic Preservation Overlay for the Phoenix Laundry 
& Dry Cleaning Company 
Location 
Approximately 450 feet north of the northeast corner of 
7th Avenue and Van Buren Street 
VPC Recommendation 
Approval, per the staff recommendation 
VPC Vote 
7-6
VPC DISCUSSION:
Three members of the public registered to speak on this item, one in favor, two in 
opposition. 
STAFF PRESENTATION 
Kevin Weight with the City of Phoenix Historic Preservation Office provided a 
presentation regarding the history of the building at the subject site, highlighting the 
age, integrity, and significance criteria required for the Historic Preservation Overlay 
and stating that the staff recommendation is approval. 
QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE 
Committee Member Greenman asked if the building was still in operation. Mr. Weight 
replied that the business closed in 2019. Mr. Greenman asked if the lamella roof was 
visible from the right-of-way. Mr. Weight replied that it is not. 
Chair O’Grady asked about the vote count at the City Council hearing on the 
demolition request. Mr. Weight replied that the vote was 8-1. 
PUBLIC COMMENTS 
Donna Reiner introduced herself as representing Preserve Phoenix and spoke in favor 
of the proposal, stating that it is important to save buildings that are symbols of our 
history, including commercial properties, and that developers have been interested in 
the site, which could be repurposed. 
ATTACHMENT D

Central City Village Planning Committee 
Meeting Summary 
Z-117-23-7 
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City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
 
Committee Member Olivas expressed concern about how to pay for the rehabilitation 
of a building like this, highlighting that HP zoning requirements can deter someone 
from purchasing a property. 
 
Marilyn Milum introduced herself as the property owner and provided a presentation in 
opposition to the request, highlighting the poor condition of several aspects of the 
building, including safety concerns with the lamella roof, and the lack of success in 
working with potential developers to buy the site for rehabilitation. 
 
Committee Member Rachel Frazier Johnson commented that Proposition 207 is an 
option for the property owners and asked about compensation. Mrs. Milum replied that 
this is a quality-of-life issue, and they have tried to work with the City on a solution. 
 
Faith Burton asked about the history of the building, including ownership, the last time 
the roof was insured, and environmental testing. Mrs. Milum noted that they owned the 
property for 60 years, the roof was insured six years ago, and they have a “no further 
action” from the EPA. Ms. Burton asked whether developers discussed maintaining 
the Art Deco features of the building. Mrs. Milum noted that the focus has been on the 
ceilings. 
 
Committee Member Martinez asked about the potential agreement if a developer 
agreed to purchase the property. Mrs. Milum stated that the developer would use an 8-
year tax abatement from the City for adaptive reuse. Ms. Martinez asked if there was 
only one developer interested. Mrs. Milum confirmed there was only the one 
developer. Ms. Burton asked when the discussions with the developer took place. 
Mrs. Milum replied it was last year. 
 
Committee Member Olivas asked at what point the structural assessment happens. 
Chair O’Grady stated that question could be directed to staff. 
 
Chair O’Grady asked if there was a developer offer for the land if the building were 
demolished. Mrs. Milum stated there was no offer.  
 
Committee Member Starks asked if a developer was interested if the site had the HP 
overlay. Mrs. Milum stated that it would be if it did not have the overlay. 
 
Committee Member Panetta asked about the costs to have a structural assessment 
done. Mrs. Milum replied that it would be $60,000. 
 
Craig Milum introduced himself as the property owner and spoke in opposition to the 
request, highlighting safety concerns with lamella ceilings. 
 
Ms. Martinez asked about the age of the lamella ceiling. Mrs. Milum replied that it was 
90 years old.

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City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
 
STAFF RESPONSE 
Mr. Weight stated that there are examples of lamella roofs being used today in 
gymnasiums in Arizona, the Historic Preservation Commission felt strongly about 
preserving this history, and that a structural assessment had not been done. 
 
Ms. Burton noted that the examples of lamella roofs in operation are all publicly-owned 
buildings and asked if there were any privately-owned examples. Mr. Weight replied 
that he wasn’t aware of any. 
 
Committee Member Greenman stated that the zoning at this site would allow 600 feet 
of height and asked if HP zoning would permit a building to punch through the roof to 
construct a tower. Mr. Weight replied that such a building would not be allowed under 
HP zoning. 
 
Ms. Olivas stated that the determination so far has not factored in a structural report 
and asked what the economic hardship decision was based on. Mr. Weight replied that 
the applicant must demonstrate the rate of return based on cost estimates. Ms. Olivas 
stated that if the property owners can’t afford to rehabilitate the building, it will simply sit 
vacant after HP approval. 
 
Committee Member Burns asked if there is anything keeping the building from being 
used now. Mr. Weight replied that from a regulatory perspective, there is nothing 
preventing it. 
 
Ms. Martinez asked for clarification on the economic hardship hearing. Mr. Weight 
replied with a detailed description of how economic hardship is determined. 
 
Ms. Johnson asked if the City has a planned use. Mr. Weight replied that there is no 
planned use. 
 
Chair O’Grady asked if a GPLET was considered for the site. Mr. Weight replied that 
a GPLET was part of the discussion regarding the site. 
 
COMMITTEE DISCUSSION 
Ms. Burton stated that the property owners are arguing a very complicated case and 
that this is a difficult building, considering insurance and other requirements. 
 
Committee Member Sonoskey asked about a façade easement, which was done at a 
site in the Warehouse District. Mr. Weight stated that the HP overlay was removed in 
that case. 
 
Ms. Olivas stated that there are no comparisons in Arizona, no structural report, and 
the Committee doesn’t know details about the negotiations to this point.

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City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
Ms. Johnson stated that there needs to be a creative solution to move forward that 
acknowledges both sides of the issue. 
 
Mr. Panetta asked if HP designation would make funding available for an assessment. 
Mr. Weight replied that it would. 
 
Mr. Burns asked for clarification that the HP designation is only effective for one year. 
Mr. Weight replied that the HP zoning delays demolition for one year, after which there 
is nothing preventing demolition. 
 
Ms. Martinez noted that the HP overlay could provide funding for the assessment. 
 
Mr. Panetta stated that even if the HP overlay is approved, it only delays demolition by 
one year, and the property owners would still end up demolishing the building. 
 
Mr. Burns stated that he understands the hardship, but the purpose of the HP overlay 
is for preservation. Mr. Panetta replied that the property owner doesn’t have any 
interest in pursuing preservation of the building. 
 
Committee Member Vargas asked how common it is for buildings to be demolished 
after receiving an HP overlay. Mr. Weight stated that multiple buildings have been 
demolished with HP overlays. 
 
Committee Member Starks stated that the property owners had options that they 
haven’t pursued. 
 
Mr. Sonoskey stated that if the HP overlay is approved, it gives time for experts to 
document the building before the building is demolished. 
 
Chair O’Grady stated that historic preservation requires a property owner to go along 
with it, which is not the case here. 
 
MOTION 
Zach Burns made a motion to recommend approval of Z-117-23-7, per the staff 
recommendation. Vice Chair Gaughan seconded the motion. 
 
Mr. Burns stated that the HP overlay would allow additional time to find a preservation 
solution and could allow funding for the structural analysis. 
 
Mr. Vargas stated that the HP overlay could allow additional archiving of information. 
 
Ms. Olivas stated concerns about the funding. Mr. Weight stated that there is funding 
in the budget to use for property assessments. 
 
Ms. Johnson asked if funding is contingent on HP zoning approval. Mr. Weight stated 
that it is not.

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City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
 
VOTE 
7-6; Motion to recommend approval of Z-117-23-7, per the staff recommendation, 
passed; Committee Members Burns, Panetta, Sonoskey, Starks, Vargas, Gaughan, 
and O’Grady in favor; Committee Members Burton, Greenman, R. Johnson, Lockhart, 
Martinez, and Olivas opposed. 
 
 
STAFF COMMENTS REGARDING VPC RECOMMENDATION: 
 
None.