Attachment A - June 28, 2023 EDE Minutes.pdf

Phoenix City Council 
Economic Development and Equity (EDE) Subcommittee 
Summary Minutes 
Wednesday, June 28, 2023 
City Council Chambers 
200 W. Jefferson St. 
Phoenix, Ariz. 
Subcommittee Members Present                    Subcommittee Members Absent 
Chairwoman Laura Pastor         
Councilwoman Ann O’Brien 
Councilwoman Debra Stark 
Vice Mayor Yassamin Ansari 
 
CALL TO ORDER 
Chairwoman Pastor called the Economic Development and Equity Subcommittee to 
order at 10:07 a.m. with Councilwoman Ann O’Brien, Councilwoman Debra Stark and 
Vice Mayor Yassamin Ansari present.  
CALL TO THE PUBLIC 
None. 
MINUTES OF MEETINGS 
1. Minutes of the Economic Development and Equity Subcommittee Meeting 
Councilwoman Stark made a motion to approve the minutes of the June 13, 2023 
Economic Development and Equity Subcommittee meeting. Vice Mayor Ansari 
seconded the motion which passed unanimously, 4-0. 
INFORMATION AND DISCUSSION (ITEMS 2-6)  
 
2. Z-TA-5-23-Y- Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment Regarding 
Accessory Dwelling Units 
Planning and Development Director Joshua Bednarek, Acting Planning and 
Development Deputy Director Tricia Gomes, and Planning and Development Team 
Leader Chris DePerro gave a report on Z-TA-5-23-Y, a text amendment to the Phoenix 
Zoning Ordinance to address Accessory Dwelling Units (ADUs).  
 
Councilwoman Stark commented on ADU adoption in Portland, Oregon and noted 
concerns about short-term rentals.  
 
Mr. DePerro summarized the ordinance language and discussed Flagstaff ADU 
standards as a model for Phoenix.

Councilwoman O’Brien asked for clarification on ADU ownership.   
 
Mr. DePerro replied either the ADU or main unit must be occupied by the owner.  
 
Councilwoman O’Brien expressed concern that the requirements would not prevent the 
owner from creating short-term rentals.  
 
Mr. DePerro responded the requirements would not prevent this and noted State law 
limited the City’s ability to put restrictions on short-term rentals.  
 
Vice Mayor Ansari asked about the costs and timeline to build an ADU in a backyard.  
 
Mr. Bednarek replied the cost and timeline would depend on the ADU’s complexity but 
noted the primary cost would be the ADU itself.  
 
Vice Mayor Ansari discussed ADUs in Tucson and asked how the text amendment 
would remove barriers to install ADUs in Phoenix.  
 
Mr. DePerro commented on the Tucson ADU case study and summarized Phoenix’s 
simplified requirements.   
 
Vice Mayor Ansari asked about setback standards for detached ADUs.  
 
Mr. DePerro provided clarification on setback requirements and noted they were the 
same as existing detached accessory structures.   
 
Vice Mayor Ansari asked to which zoning districts the text amendment would apply. 
 
Mr. DePerro replied the text amendment was written based on use, not districts, and 
ADUs could be permitted in all residential districts.  
 
Chairwoman Pastor opened the floor for public comment.  
 
Brent Kleinman asked about short-term rentals and licensing, historic preservation and 
repurposing of garages for ADU conversion. 
 
Ms. Gomes discussed the registration process for short-term rentals. 
 
Mr. DePerro summarized historic preservation processes and commented on garage 
conversion scenarios.    
 
Chairwoman Pastor asked for clarification about short-term rentals.  
 
Mr. DePerro discussed short-term rentals.

Chairwoman Pastor asked if an airstream could be considered an ADU.  
 
Mr. DePerro replied no and reviewed the definition of an ADU.  
 
Chairwoman Pastor asked when the text amendment vote would occur. 
 
Ms. Gomes replied will be before Council on September 6.  
 
Chairwoman Pastor called Scott Bourque for public comment.  
 
Scott Bourque discussed benefits of ADUs for veterans.  
 
3. Housing Choice Voucher Waitlist Opening  
Deputy City Manager Gina Montes, Housing Director Titus Mathew and Housing 
Manager Elenia Sotelo presented on the Housing Department’s plan to open the 
Housing Choice Voucher (HCV) program waitlist.  
 
Chairwoman Pastor expressed excitement for the waitlist opening.  
 
4. Update on Request for Proposals for Redevelopment of Parcels 
Ms. Montes, Mr. Mathew and Assistant Housing Director Aubrey Gonzalez provided an 
update on the Request for Proposals for Redevelopment of Parcels Near Central and 
Columbus Avenues.  
 
Chairwoman Pastor asked for clarification on scoring.  
 
Ms. Gonzalez and Mr. Mathew elaborated on the 375 points returned to the City.  
 
Chairwoman Pastor asked for confirmation that this property was for lease. 
 
Mr. Mathew responded yes.  
 
Chairwoman Pastor asked when the return to the City would be.  
 
Mr. Mathew discussed a possible 99-year lease term, subject to negotiation.  
 
Chairwoman Pastor noted the City Council could determine if they wanted to keep or 
sell the property after the 99 years and asked for more details.  
 
Ms. Montes stated staff could provide briefings prior to releasing the RFP.   
 
Chairwoman Pastor asked about areas to store bikes and requested an area be 
designed for micromobility.  
 
Ms. Spencer noted that Item 5 on the agenda would address micromobility.

Chairwoman Pastor requested a designated parking area for micromobility vehicles, 
activated ground floor space and collaboration with Fire staff.  
 
Councilwoman Stark commented on ground floor space and requested this topic be a 
larger conversation.  
 
Chairwoman Pastor noted this conversation should involve staff from Community and 
Economic Development and Planning and Development.  
 
5. Special Events at Margaret T. Hance Park 
Assistant Parks and Recreation Director Martin Whitfield and Deputy Parks and 
Recreation Director Alonso Avitia presented on Margaret T. Hance Park’s event 
progress, activity and history.   
 
Chairwoman Pastor commented on vendor concerns such as parking, special event 
permitting and costs. 
 
Chairwoman Pastor opened the floor for public comment.  
 
Sandra Basset expressed concern about economic disparities impacting organizations 
near Margaret T. Hance Park.  
 
Cyndy Gaughan expressed concern about economic disparities impacting the Phoenix 
Center for the Arts near Margaret T. Hance Park.   
 
Chairwoman Pastor requested staff meet with those who have concerns.  
 
Mr. Whitfield replied staff would follow-up.  
 
Chairwoman Pastor commented on Indian Steele Park as a possible solution.  
6. Shared Micromobility Program Update 
Deputy City Manager Alan Stephenson, Street and Transportation Director Kini 
Knudson, Lime Senior Manager of Government Relations Charlie Mastoloni and Spin 
Government Partnerships Manager Derek Stehlin gave a report on the utilization of 
electric scooters and electric bikes in the Shared Micromobility Program.  
 
Chairwoman Pastor asked for clarification on bike rentals. 
 
Mr. Knudson discussed the library model check-out system.  
Mr. Stehlin added the rental model was free of charge.    
 
Chairwoman Pastor noted confusing semantics and discussed concerns about theft. 
 
Mr. Stehlin commented on procedures to help prevent theft.

Chairwoman Pastor discussed community micromobility requests and summarized 
program concerns. 
 
Councilwoman Stark asked if staff would provide maps for future potential expansion. 
 
Mr. Knusdon replied staff could provide maps as part of their presentation at a future 
meeting.  
 
Councilwoman Stark commented on locations in other cities. 
 
Councilwoman O’Brien expressed support for micromobility specific areas and asked 
about utilization rates.  
 
Mr. Stehlin responded e-scooter ridership trended higher than e-bike ridership and staff 
were researching reasons why. 
 
Mr. Mastoloni added expanding the program boundaries could support utilization rates.  
 
Chairwoman O’Brien asked if there was data available to show how often individuals 
were out of service areas and where they were.  
 
Mr. Mastoloni replied yes. 
 
Chairwoman O’Brien asked if this information could be shared.  
 
Mr. Mastoloni responded yes and noted curfew hours may be another factor limiting 
utilization.  
 
Chairwoman O’Brien asked what the curfew hours were. 
 
Mr. Knudson responded the curfew was midnight and rental could begin again at 5:00 
a.m.  
 
Chairwoman O’Brien asked how the curfew hours were determined.  
 
Mr. Knudson replied safety concerns impacted the curfew hours.  
 
Mr. Stehlin discussed dexterity tests to help address safety concerns. 
 
Chairwoman Pastor asked how the dexterity tests worked.  
 
Mr. Stehlin replied the dexterity tests were facilitated through the app.

Chairwoman O’Brien requested data for other market areas that do not have a curfew 
and noted concerns for individuals who work past midnight and need to get home.  
 
Mr. Stehlin replied staff could follow-up with this information before September.  
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION (ITEM 7)  
7. Updated Central Business District Expansion Option  
Community and Economic Development Director Christine Mackay and Deputy 
Community and Economic Development Director Xandon Keating presented on Plan B 
map options on the potential expansion of the Phoenix Central Business District.  
 
Chairwoman Pastor asked for more information on the Option B map boundaries.  
 
Mr. Keating provided clarification on the area around Grand Avenue.  
 
Chairwoman Stark expressed support for the Option B expansion.   
 
Ms. Mackay expressed appreciation for the time and attention dedicated to this work.  
 
Councilwoman Stark made a motion to approve the item. Councilwoman O’Brien 
seconded the motion which passed unanimously, 4-0. 
CALL TO THE PUBLIC  
None. 
 
FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS 
None. 
 
ADJOURNMENT 
Chairwoman Pastor adjourned the meeting at 11:49 a.m. 
 
Respectfully submitted, 
 
Danielle Vermeer  
Management Fellow