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City of Phoenix Fiscal Capacity Committee Summary Minutes Monday, Jan. 24, 2022 Virtual Meeting – Via WebEx Committee Members Present Committee Members Absent Dave Krietor, Chair Ron Butler Deb Fisher Hope Levin MaryAnn Guerra 1. CALL TO ORDER Chairman Krietor called the Fiscal Capacity Committee to order at 11:05 a.m. with committee members Ron Butler, Deb Fisher, Hope Levin and MaryAnn Guerra present. 2. INTRODUCTORY REMARKS Chairman Krietor welcomed committee members and staff and invited them to begin with introductions. He explained the committee’s charge and history, and he expressed appreciation to members for returning to reconvene the committee for a potential 2023 bond issue. Chairman Krietor discussed the planned schedule of meetings for the group to arrive at a recommendation. He mentioned the fourth meeting on Feb. 15 had been scheduled but may not be needed. He further explained the schedule would provide staff time to review the recommendation with City Council and move to the next stage of the potential bond issue. 3. REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE JANUARY 17, 2020 MEETING MINUTES Committee member Ron Butler made a motion to approve the minutes of the Jan. 17, 2020 meeting. Committee member Deb Fisher seconded the motion, which passed unanimously, 5-0. 4. STAFF UPDATE REGARDING POTENTIAL GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND PROGRAM Chairman Krietor introduced the item and City Manager Jeffrey Barton, Budget and Research Director Amber Williamson, and Chief Financial Officer Kathleen Gitkin to provide a staff update on the potential general obligation (GO) bond program. Mr. Barton thanked the committee for their participation and discussed the impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic on the potential bond program, which previously focused exclusively on public safety. He highlighted the replacement of Police Headquarters as an example of a project previously considered for the bond program, explaining ATTACHMENT C the city had since acquired 100 West Washington, formerly the Wells Fargo building, to house Police and other city operations. He stated this acquisition would provide greater flexibility within the proposed bond program. Mr. Barton emphasized the importance of setting up a process to have a bond program every five to seven years, focused on maintenance and no new ongoing costs, with virtually no increase to secondary property tax. He explained that, if successful, the plan would lay the groundwork for four bond programs over the next 20 years and set the city up for success moving ahead. Chairman Krietor recalled bond issuances in 1987, 2000, and 2006, with no other bond issuances since that time. Ms. Williamson provided an overview of the city’s current financial health, particularly considering the COVID-19 pandemic. She stated the impact of the pandemic on revenues was initially unclear, but that the city has done well financially. She shared that staff was preparing a general fund status and five-year forecast to present to the City Council which would demonstrate potential scenarios about the city’s fund balance over the next few years. Ms. Williamson stressed the importance of focusing on projects that would not result in net new increases in operating expenses, as existing city infrastructure and assets could be expanded, replaced, or renovated. She stated she would provide more detailed information during forthcoming meetings, including challenges the general fund would face. Ms. Gitkin gave an overview of financial modeling and key metrics that would be presented at forthcoming meetings. She explained the city had contained expenditures remarkably well through the pandemic and acknowledged that the city measured higher revenues than in the past, beyond receiving significant resources from the federal government. Ms. Gitkin emphasized the importance of thoughtful and methodical planning, as well as relying on experts from Piper Jaffray to obtain exact market numbers for financial modeling. She stated she would hire a financial advisor if the bond program moved forward, to validate the information that would be presented. Chairman Krietor discussed the tentative schedule for the potential bond program process, explaining that the next meeting would be devoted to reviewing models and figures. He stated the current meeting’s agenda would focus on a tutorial of how the property tax works in Phoenix and the technical mechanisms for it. 5. COMMITTEE TITLE Chairman Krietor introduced the item and explained that it would be necessary to change the name of the committee since it would no longer focused exclusively on public safety projects. He asked Deputy Budget and Research Director Chris Fazio to confirm the new proposed name for the committee. Mr. Fazio stated the proposed name was Fiscal Capacity Committee. Committee member Hope Levin made a motion to approve the committee name change. Committee member Ron Butler seconded the motion, which passed unanimously, 5-0. 6. PROPERTY TAX OVERVIEW Chairman Krietor introduced Deputy Budget and Research Director Christopher Fazio to provide an overview of property tax, specifically in Phoenix. Mr. Fazio explained general obligation bonds were backed by secondary property tax and reiterated the goal of the proposed bond program to proceed without raising tax rates above current levels. Mr. Fazio defined property tax, net assessed value, secondary net assessed value, limited property value and full cash market value. He explained implications of Proposition 117, distinguished the property tax levy from the property tax rate, and provided the formula used to calculate municipal property tax levies. He identified changes to Phoenix’s full cash value compared to two years earlier. Chairman Krietor mentioned the calculation of net assessed value was particularly relevant now because of significant appreciation seen in the market. Mr. Fazio identified changes to Phoenix’s full cash value, primary tax levy, and secondary rate and levy, compared to two years earlier. He stated the primary rate remained $1.3055. Chairman Krietor asked what years the new tax levies represented in terms of actual assessed valuation. Mr. Fazio stated the primary levy of $193 million was indexed approximately 12 months earlier and there would be some predictability moving forward because the market was doing well. Mr. Fazio discussed the functions of the primary property tax as a general fund source and secondary property tax as supporting debt service for general obligation bonds. He briefly discussed the city’s current secondary property tax reserve, which would be discussed in detail during the Jan. 31 meeting. Chairman Krietor clarified that the committee’s recommendations could not rely heavily on the existing reserve, which has preserved the city’s financial position in rough times, as the state would be limiting the amount that could fund the reserve. Mr. Fazio stated there would be less need for the reserve from a modeling standpoint. He explained forecasting could be hindered by legislative action absent major catastrophic situations that impact property values, due to the change with Proposition 117. Mr. Fazio gave an overview of a sample property tax bill and emphasized that the city represented only one piece of the total bill. He presented the results of a study benchmarking Phoenix’s tax rates against other cities in the region, which showed the $2.12 combined primary and secondary rate exceeded only by Tempe. He explained the secondary tax rate alone was one of the lowest and the city share of median single-family residential was below average. Chairman Krietor clarified the recommendation would focus on maintaining the existing tax rate, but people may have to pay more taxes because assessed valuations are increasing. Mr. Fazio confirmed. Committee member Maryann Guerra asked if a scenario would be presented that assumed a market crash and decrease in property values. Mr. Fazio stated this presentation focused on the baseline scenario, based on what will most likely occur. He added Ms. Gitkin would discuss scenarios to look at contingencies and explained a downturn or housing bubble over the long term would tend to be smoothed out. Chairman Krietor agreed that this is a question the committee would need to understand to make their recommendation and acknowledged that a smaller bond issue would attempt to mitigate the impacts of a downturn. Mr. Fazio gave an overview of the baseline assumptions for the assessed valuation forecast and discussed what had been presented two years earlier and adjustments since then. He presented the staff net assessed valuation model reflecting long-term growth and indicated stress scenarios would be discussed at the Jan. 31 meeting. Chairman Krietor clarified the modeled growth did not only reflect what had been built and was appreciating, but also assumed new construction over time. Mr. Fazio confirmed the model accounted for new construction, appreciation, and new inventory each year. He mentioned one of the stress scenarios considered a bubble in new construction activity. Chairman Krietor asked if massive commercial projects such as the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company development, with tax abatements, would be factored into the calculations. Mr. Fazio stated the project would not be captured in fiscal year 2022, but it had been factored into long-term new construction figures. Mr. Fazio explained the statutorily required informational pamphlet accompanying a general obligation bond election must ensure five-year appreciation would not exceed the 10-year average. Committee member Hope Levin asked if the pamphlet could be updated to reflect changes in growth, since the vision of the program would be smaller, more frequent bond sales. Mr. Fazio stated each bond election would include its own assessment and assumptions. Ms. Gitkin confirmed the four proposed bond programs would each have unique pamphlets to reflect new financial impacts. Committee member Levin recalled a recent Madison School District bond override and referred to the sample tax bill, which showed the city as only one part of the total bill. She asked if there was historic knowledge of how appealing a municipal bond program would be to voters when they have other bond proposals presented to them. Mr. Fazio stated there was no current data on other jurisdictions’ bond elections presented to voters concurrently with a municipal bond election. Chairman Krietor mentioned there had not been a failed bond issue in the time he has lived in Phoenix, aside from a transit sales tax bond issue. Committee member Ron Butler expressed support for the effort and appreciation for the property tax tutorial to get back up to speed. He stated he would be interested to see how inflation may impact the timing of the bond issuance. Ms. Gitkin stated the presentation for the following week would show modeling and assumptions based on 5% interest rate loans to account for unpredictability. She explained there had been historically low rates and inflation is taking time to catch up to the market, particularly with municipal bonds. Committee member Guerra asked for clarification on the Madison School District and its effect on the Phoenix bond election. Mr. Fazio clarified that on a property-by-property basis, there could be various school districts involved, each with their own bond elections or overrides. He confirmed those would be in addition to a Phoenix GO bond election. Chairman Krietor thanked Mr. Fazio for his presentation and stressed the importance of the committee’s knowledge of commercial and residential growth, and forthcoming models and forecasting from staff, to arrive at a final recommendation. 7. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS Chairman Krietor discussed the items currently planned for the next meeting: • Summary of Outstanding GO Bond Debt Service • Constraints and Considerations for a New GO Bond Program • New GO Bond Program Scenario Assumptions • New GO Bond Program Scenarios Chairman Krietor asked if there were other items the committee would like to include. Committee members had no additions. 8. ADJOURNMENT Chairman Krietor adjourned the meeting at 12:10 p.m. Public Safety Bond Fiscal Capacity Committee January 24, 2022 Agenda 1. Introductory Remarks 2. Approval of Minutes 3. Staff Update 4. Committee Title 5. Property Tax Overview Planned Meetings Meeting Schedule (11 am): Monday, January 24 Monday, January 31 Monday, February 7 Tuesday, February 15 Tentative Schedule JAN/FEB 2022 – Fiscal Capacity Committee MAR 2022 – Fiscal Capacity Report to Council APR 2022 – Community Budget Hearings MAY 2022 – Council Appoint Bond Committee AUG 2022 – Start Bond Committee Work DEC 2022 – Bond Committee Recommendations NOV 2023 – Election Property Tax Property Tax Ad Valorem tax on real & personal property Property valued by County Assessor & DOR Primary & secondary rates established Assessed and collected by County Treasurer Distributed to taxing jurisdictions Formula Property Tax Levy = Net Assessed Value/100 x Tax Rate City assumes 1% of its levy is uncollected Secondary NAV Historically calculated off of market value November 2012: Proposition 117 Now calculated off of limited property value Change first reflected in FY 2016 NAV = LPV x Ratio Limited Property Value = lesser of Full Cash (Market) Value or Prior Year Limited Property Value + 5% Phoenix’s current FCV > LPV by 38% 47% NAV = LPV x Ratio Established by State Statute Residential: 10% Commercial: 18% => 16% Agricultural/Vacant: 16% City assumes no change to these ratios Legislation reducing commercial to 16% Levy = NAV x Rate Established by taxing jurisdictions Governed by legal limits City of Phoenix Tax Primary Rate: $1.3055 Primary Levy: $173 million $193 million Secondary Rate: $0.8241 $0.8141 Secondary Levy: $109 million $120 million Primary Property Tax General Fund source Ceilings: Constitutional 2% Levy Limit City Charter $1.00 plus Library Levy Current Rate: $1.3055 Current Constitutional Limit: $1.3447 $1.3061 Secondary Property Tax Debt service for general obligation bonds Ceilings (2017 HB 2011): Annual debt service costs Reserve <= 10% by end of FY 2023 Sample Tax Bill +8% +5% Sample Tax Bill Sample Tax Bill Sample Tax Bill City Portion (this taxpayer): ($154 + $96)/($1,187) = 21% City Portion (average for all taxpayers): 16% FY 2022 Tax Rates Primary Secondary Combined Tempe 0.8852 1.4816 2.3668 Phoenix 1.3055 0.8141 2.1196 Glendale 0.3848 1.3409 1.7257 Mesa - 1.1319 1.1319 Chandler 0.2426 0.8700 1.1126 Scottsdale 0.5039 0.5042 1.0081 Gilbert - 0.9895 0.9895 FY 2022 Tax Rates Primary Secondary Combined Tempe 0.8852 1.4816 2.3668 Glendale 0.3848 1.3409 1.7257 Mesa - 1.1319 1.1319 Gilbert - 0.9895 0.9895 Chandler 0.2426 0.8700 1.1126 Phoenix 1.3055 0.8141 2.1196 Scottsdale 0.5039 0.5042 1.0081 FY 2022 Tax Bills Median SFR (City Share Only) Tempe $397 Scottsdale $344 Phoenix $251 Chandler $226 Gilbert $216 Glendale $204 Mesa $170 Average: $258 Assessed Valuation Forecast Staff Assumptions Assessment ratios held constant Assessment ratios held constant after FY 2026 3.5% 2.0% appreciation through FY 2026 3.0% appreciation thereafter Annual new construction growth of 2.0% 12/2019 FY 2022 Projected NAV: $14.84B Actual FY 2022 NAV: $14.80B (-0.3%) Staff NAV Model - 5,000,000,000 10,000,000,000 15,000,000,000 20,000,000,000 25,000,000,000 30,000,000,000 NAV NAV per historical calculation Informational Pamphlet Growth years 1-5 <= prior 10-year average 0% ~5% growth assumption Growth years 6+ <= 20% of prior 10-year avg. 0% ~1% growth assumption Informational pamphlet must reflect long range assumptions that staff considers unlikely Required by statute Pamphlet NAV Max - 5,000,000,000 10,000,000,000 15,000,000,000 20,000,000,000 25,000,000,000 30,000,000,000 NAV NAV per historical calculation Next Meeting Agenda 1. Summary of Outstanding GO Bond Debt Service 2. Constraints and Considerations for a New GO Bond Program 3. New GO Bond Program Scenario Assumptions 4. New GO Bond Program Scenarios Questions City of Phoenix Fiscal Capacity Committee Summary Minutes Monday, Jan. 31, 2022 Virtual Meeting – Via WebEx Committee Members Present Committee Members Absent Dave Krietor, Chair Ron Butler Deb Fisher* MaryAnn Guerra Hope Levin *Joined at 11:11 a.m. 1. CALL TO ORDER Chairman Krietor called the Fiscal Capacity Committee to order at 11:04 a.m. with committee members Ron Butler, Hope Levin and MaryAnn Guerra present. 2. REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE JANUARY 24, 2022 MEETING MINUTES Committee member Hope Levin made a motion to approve the minutes of the Jan. 24, 2022 meeting. Committee member Ronald Butler seconded the motion, which passed unanimously, 4-0. Committee member Deb Fisher joined the meeting after the motion passed at 11:11 a.m. 3. FISCAL CAPACITY ANALYSIS Chairman Krietor introduced Chief Financial Officer Kathleen Gitkin to present on the fiscal capacity analysis. He explained the basis of the analysis would assume one $500 million bond issue every five years, for a total of $2 billion over a 20-year period. Ms. Gitkin began by sharing the history of the city’s general obligation (GO) bond programs beginning in 1957, with 12 voter-approved programs totaling $4.6 billion since then. She indicated the last GO bond program was in 2006 and the last new money bonds issued associated with the authorization were in 2012. Chairman Krietor reiterated that voters approved the last bond program in 2006, but the last issue that went to market was in 2012. He asked if staff structured the sales of individual bonds based on the demand generated by the approved projects, after voters approved the bond issue. Ms. Gitkin confirmed that after voter authorization is received, staff considers project planning timeframes, procurement needs, and cash flows before there are capital expenditures and bond issuances. She added staff would not want to issue bonds too soon and have unused cash. Ms. Gitkin discussed the legal and statutory requirements and restrictions for GO bonds. She explained the city could only issue bonds for major infrastructure and capital expenditures with a long useful life, to ensure the debt could be repaid before the end of its useful life. She added that bond sales could be adjusted to coincide with the life of the asset. Ms. Gitkin explained cost of issuance could also be paid, including bond counsel fees, financial advisor fees, underwriter fees, and staff cost specifically related to sale of the bonds. Ms. Gitkin cautioned against using tax-exempt bond proceeds for private activity or loans, using a Family Advocacy Center and a neighborhood clean-up loan program as examples of activities that would not be permissible by the IRS as tax-exempt. She explained a city-owned Family Advocacy Center operated by various non-profits to offer services to the public, while serving the community and the city’s goals, would be considered private activity and no longer a public use. She added that there would be a small allocation for private activity and stated that if a program was a priority for the city, taxable bonds could be issued, which had been done in the past but could be more costly. Ms. Gitkin stated action could only be taken based on what was written in the proposition that would go before voters. She explained the proposition should be written in a manner that strikes a balance between being clear for voters to understand and flexible for how bond proceeds could be used. She cautioned against omitting necessary language, using land acquisition for a municipal building as an example where the language should clearly state that land would be purchased, and a building constructed. Chairman Krietor wanted to know how taxable or tax-exempt would be determined in a situation where the city hypothetically planned to purchase the old Channel 12 headquarters and renovate it for use by the Southwest Center for HIV. Ms. Gitkin stated the process the Budget and Research Department was undertaking, asking departments to submit recommended projects early, provides ample opportunity to get tax opinions early and discuss with departments. Ms. Gitkin discussed the existing GO bonds, currently outstanding in the principal amount of $919 million. She pointed out the period from 2022 through 2027 had substantial debt service. Total GO bond debt service is fully paid off in 2034. She stressed the importance of being mindful of the maximum annual debt service (MADS), the peak debt service, currently at $155 million in 2026. Ms. Gitkin discussed two aspects that would impact the look of the debt stack, the GO bond reserve and GO bond refunding opportunities. Ms. Gitkin reiterated the impact of House Bill (HB) 2011 on the GO bond reserve, which would require the city to deplete the reserve to less than or equal to 10% of annual debt service by the end of fiscal year 2023. She discussed the history of the reserve and explained a significant amount had been used to pay down debt service from 2011 through 2016. She explained that by the end of 2022, $73 million would remain in the reserve, which would be approximately $60 million higher than what would be required by HB 2011. She detailed staff’s proposal to use approximately $54 million of the GO Bond Reserve balance to pay off $58 million in debt service, which includes interest, to drive down the MADS from $155 million to $146 million. Ms. Gitkin stated there were approximately $280 million outstanding in 2012 GO bonds, 30% of all city bonds, which could potentially be refunded for savings on July 1, 2022, and result in savings of approximately $15 million over the life of the GO bonds. She detailed staff’s proposal to take advantage of refunding to target savings early and increase capacity for a new GO bond program in 2023. Chairman Krietor clarified there would be $54 million in the reserve and the refunding would provide $15 million in savings, to give capacity to do additional bonds, which would be almost $70 million. Ms. Gitkin confirmed taking these actions would create additional capacity for another bond program and could also help avoid a property tax rate increase in 2026, the peak year, even if a bond program is not done. Committee member Hope Levin asked what the interest rate had been on the previous bonds, and how time passing from bond approval to issuance could impact the rate. Ms. Gitkin stated there would always inherently be savings in a bond sale because the city issues debt with a 10-year par call. She explained this meant the city could call or pay off the bonds without premium or penalty in 10 years, even if they would not be set to mature for another five to 10 years. She stated most likely in 2012, the city paid around 4 to 5% yield, which would be 1.8% right now for a 20-year bond. She emphasized the new refunding bonds would not go out beyond 2034 and the city would not extend the life of the bonds. Finance Debt Manager Andrew Durket confirmed yields to 2034, the longest date of maturity, was 3.75%, so the 1.8% to 2% yield would provide plenty of savings. Committee member Maryann Guerra asked if paid down bond funds could be reused, or if it would only serve to improve capacity for future bonds. Ms. Gitkin stated legislation had been passed three to four years ago that prevented the city from reusing authorization and the city could be penalized. Ms. Gitkin provided an overview of the debt stack including the reserve payoff and refunding opportunity, which would decrease the MADS to $135 million and build approximately $20 million in capacity in the front end. She explained the scenarios moving forward would assume both actions were taken, and staff would be going to City Council for formal authorization to do the refunding that same week. Ms. Gitkin discussed bond ratings and explained the city would take them into consideration but not make decisions based on the rating agencies’ methodologies. She explained that we do not want any increase to MADS or any negative impact to fixed cost burden, and affordability of additional operating expenses would be important. Chairman Krietor asked if $155 million had been based on the rating agencies’ view and wanted to know if that amount was the pain threshold. Ms. Gitkin confirmed that was correct and the amount reflected the bond rating perspective. Ms. Gitkin discussed another major consideration was property tax affordability and reiterated the intent to ensure capacity for $500 million of projects every five years, with no increase to the current total property tax rate or the secondary property tax rate. Ms. Gitkin gave an overview of the final considerations related to legislative and administrative mandates, including reduction of the GO reserve fund, growth rate assumptions, the timing of infrastructure needs, and other legislative changes. Ms. Gitkin discussed fixed cost burden as an impact to credit ratings and the differences between the rating agencies’ methodologies. She explained Moody’s considered pension cost, other post-employment benefits, and debt service fixed costs, and added a disclaimer that this did not represent a generally accepted standard and Finance did not believe it was an adequate methodology to measure financial stability. Ms. Gitkin stated the city was rated AA+, stable outlook, with S&P; AAA, stable outlook, with Fitch; and Aa1, negative outlook, with Moody’s. She explained the city had been on a negative outlook with Moody’s since 2016, in preparation to downgrade, primarily because of the fixed cost burden caused by pension costs. She explained the city has paid its liabilities and more on pension costs than what has been required, and stressed the importance of maintaining the debt below $155 million because Moody’s is watching those pension costs and the city would not want to do anything related to debt to drive numbers up. Committee member Guerra asked if the Moody’s rating had always been AA1. Ms. Gitkin confirmed the city has long been rated Aa1 with Moody’s, and the recession put the city on a negative outlook due to economic impacts. She added S&P previously rated the city as AAA, but changed their rating methodology in 2013 to assess the city’s economy score based on the state’s economy score. Chairman Krietor asked if exceeding $155 million threshold would result in a downgrade. Ms. Gitkin emphasized the significance of rising pension costs, specifically Public Safety Personnel Retirement System (PSPRS) costs, risking a downgrade. She explained that raising debt service costs above current levels could increase potential credit rating concerns which the city would not want to be the reason behind a downgrade. Chairman Krietor acknowledged the difficulty of working around the state’s requirements for PSPRS. City Manager Jeffrey Barton confirmed the bigger concern with Moody’s was the public safety pension costs and the limitations those presented on the city’s flexibility from a general fund perspective. He mentioned the rating methodology around fixed cost burden did not account for the city’s provision of other key public services. Ms. Gitkin explained the rating methodology was called “treading water” and assumed a rate of return of 3%, while both the public safety and civilian plans were over 7%. Chairman Krietor asked if the interest rate differential would be material if the city were to be downgraded. Ms. Gitkin confirmed it would not have a major cost difference, as the city already has a split credit rating and would likely be priced in the AA range, which is what the GO bonds currently price at. Committee member Levin asked if residents would be swayed by bond ratings. Ms. Gitkin did not know how voters would react to the credit rating, but she anticipated they would react similarly to bondholders, indifferent. Mr. Barton agreed and added he believed there would be a larger political reaction to the credit ratings. Budget and Research Director Amber Williamson gave an overview of challenges that could put pressure on the general fund, specifically challenges with forecasting revenue and other operating budget needs. She highlighted the city’s strategic approach with CARES and ARPA funding and the city’s nationwide lead in job growth, net migration, and diversification of the economy over the last 20 years. She stated the general fund was in a good position and forecasted a surplus but did not anticipate it would continue this way as COVID-related federal aid works its way out of the system. Ms. Williamson emphasized the importance of being mindful of increasing net new operating costs because of other outstanding operating budget needs, including employee compensation increases, classification and compensation study impacts, PSPRS costs, information technology needs, health insurance cost increases, appropriate funding for trust fund reserves, and fleet replacements. She stated it would be important to have resources available to meet those needs as well as City Council and community demands for more programs and services, including affordable housing, homelessness, and climate initiatives. Ms. Gitkin reminded the committee of the three bond program options, and their associated property tax rate impact, that were discussed in 2020. She shared the final discussion with the committee centered on the impact of timing on bond sales and the committee recommended Option 1, a $450 million program, or Option 2, a $615 million program. She added the committee’s further recommendation that the city postpone a bond election to Nov. 2021. Ms. Gitkin discussed the city’s financial capacity for three new scenarios: No new GO Bond Program Four GO Bond Programs – No change to Total Rate Four GO Bond Programs – No increase to Total or Secondary Rate Ms. Gitkin began by discussing the scenario in which there would be no new program, which showed no tax rate increases above the current fiscal year 2022 rate with the MADS at $135 million. She detailed the scenario modeling assumptions, which included an annual coupon payment of 5% on all new bond sales which would build a significant cushion should any unforeseen fluctuations in the market arise. Ms. Gitkin discussed the timing of the proposed bond programs and sales, which laid out a plan to put $500 million bond programs before voters in 2023, 2028, 2033, and 2038, and split bond sales into two $250 million tranches between each election. Chairman Krietor recalled the city had done a $2 billion bond program over the last 20 years, but there had been no strategic approach. He expressed appreciation for the planned bond program schedule as it demonstrated a more strategic approach. Ms. Gitkin presented the scenario of four new bond programs resulting in no increase to the total rate, which showed increases in the secondary rate with a MADS of $157 million. She stated this program would be achievable and the MADS would increase slightly above $155 million in 2027 but go back down. Ms. Gitkin continued by discussing the scenario of four new bond programs which would result in no increase to the secondary or total rate with a MADS of $157 million. She explained this scenario would also be feasible, relying on the depletion of the reserve fund to $4.4 million in the first five years of peak debt service. She explained if that were to happen, there would be capacity after 2027 to start rebuilding the reserve balance to 10% of annual debt service. Chairman Krietor asked what risks would be involved in depleting the reserve further. Ms. Gitkin stated the main risk would be flexibility to address unforeseen changes in the market. She explained that if the interest rates skyrocket, net assessed valuation drops, or a legislative mandate occurs, the city could use the GO reserve fund to balance rather than increase property tax rates. Ms. Gitkin reaffirmed that the city could afford a $500 million bond program but presented alternative scenarios with a coupon rate of 6% or a $600 million program. She explained these scenarios would have no increases to the total rate but would increase the secondary rate and deplete the reserve fund to $5.9 million. She added that an additional $5.6 million in other resources would be needed to maintain the current secondary rate, which the city may not be able to afford. Chairman Krietor clarified the amount of the bond programs after the first could increase beyond $500 million. Mr. Barton explained it would depend on other resources the city would come to bear in this same window. He stressed the importance of being strategic and practical in creating a framework that could deliver for the City Council and the community. Chairman Krietor invited his fellow committee members to weigh in on the proposed scenarios. Committee member Ron Butler stated the first bond program seemed capped at $500 million and graduated increases could occur in the long term. He expressed interest in how the $500 million would be used. Committee member Guerra wanted to understand the community’s critical needs to determine the level of risk that would be taken financially. Chairman Krietor asked what steps would need to be taken to get to a bond election in 2023. Ms. Williamson provided an overview of the timeline for the next two years, including formal action by City Council, the solicitation of community input on the bond program, developing and refining the total scope of projects, and working with the City Clerk to get the bond program on the ballot. Committee member Butler asked if it would be the committee’s recommendation on the total amount of the bond program, the timing of the program, and direction on tax rate impacts. Mr. Barton stated he would defer to Chairman Krietor but explained staff’s perspective would be to have no increase, or a minimal increase, given the political appetite for tax increases. Chairman Krietor recommended staff return to the committee with a report that outlines the two scenarios with a $500 million program and a clear strategic pathway. He stated during the next meeting, the committee could discuss those two scenarios to develop a recommendation for City Council and that the small increase above MADS for one year should be addressed. Committee member Levin asked if the recommendation would become a strategic plan for the City Council, and whether it provides them with flexibility in 2030 and for future programs. Mr. Barton explained it would be like a 5-year capital improvement program, where the City Council would adopt the 2023 bond program as well as a strategic plan for the next 20 years, which would allow flexibility for future councils to make decisions depending on market conditions. Committee member Guerra asked if the committee should consider any negative impacts using the GO reserve fund as proposed in the scenarios might have on bond ratings. Ms. Gitkin stated the rating agencies are familiar with this and there would be no anticipated impact to ratings that should be considered. Chairman Krietor asked if a bond issuance could be delayed, given any catastrophic change in the market, since the bonds would be sold in two tranches. Ms. Gitkin confirmed that this is possible and was done historically with the recent water bond sale. Chairman Krietor expressed his hope that the committee would be recommending a structure that would avoid that situation. Ms. Gitkin gave an overview of the legislative scenario and explained that the legislation dictates the content of the pamphlet and how the numbers would appear. She discussed the assumptions associated with growth in net-assessed value (NAV) and how the assumed growth rate has increased since the committee first convened in 2020. She explained that Deputy Budget and Research Director Chris Fazio had looked at every potential scenario and this scenario seemed unlikely. She added that the primary property tax levy would be impacted. Ms. Gitkin went on to discuss the legislative requirement scenario and pointed out that 2048 is when it would start to compound. She explained the city would only have to show the first program in the pamphlet and it would not have a significant impact on the city’s ability to do a bond program. She noted that a rate increase of $0.13 may be a dramatic change to voters that would have to be noted in the pamphlet. Chairman Krietor clarified that that change would be in a future pamphlet. Ms. Gitkin confirmed it would be in a pamphlet far into the future. She reaffirmed that for the first five years there would be no impact. Ms. Gitkin presented the stress scenario and discussed the assumptions, including that the legislature continues incremental cuts to commercial assessment ratio to 10%, then appreciation of 2.5%. She described additional assumptions, such as new construction slowing in the first year after the election, and that the primary rate is held constant unless there is a reduction required by the constitutional levy limit. She explained that the scenario modeled an immediate impact in the first five years, but not as dramatic as the legislative requirement scenario. Ms. Gitkin explained the total rate would increase in this scenario in fiscal year 2027 by approximately $.04 and, after depleting the bond reserve, the city would still need $3.2 million to fund with other sources. She stated there were things the city could do now to alleviate that, such as another refunding opportunity and use of the cushion built into the assumptions with 5% couponing. She stated that under an extreme stress scenario, a program would be manageable. Mr. Fazio reminded the committee that there was a window into the future with property taxes, as there was a lag between market conditions and what is seen. Chairman Krietor acknowledged special attention should be paid to this stress scenario. He recalled commercial and industrial assessment ratios had been 2.5 times higher than residential. Mr. Fazio stated commercial is currently at 18% and would be reduced to 16%. He added there is a bill currently floating to take off two more half-percents. Committee member Levin clarified if this impacts other cities in the county. Mr. Fazio confirmed this has a statewide impact. Chairman Krietor commended staff on their presentation, which built on the property tax overview from the previous meeting. Committee member Butler echoed Chairman Krietor’s comments and commended staff on the presentation. 4. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS Chairman Krietor asked staff to return to the committee at the Feb. 7 meeting with a draft report including the two scenarios discussed and a recommendation to strategically position the city for recurring bond issues every five years. Chairman Krietor asked if there were other items the committee would like to include. Committee members had no additions. 5. ADJOURNMENT Chairman Krietor adjourned the meeting at 12:47 p.m. 0 Bond Program Fiscal Capacity Committee January 31, 2022 1 Overview Existing GO Bond Program GO Bond Program Considerations & Constraints GO Bond Program Capacity As Presented in 2020 2023 GO Bond Program Scenarios 2023 GO Bond Program Stress Scenario 2 Existing GO Bond Program The City has a long history of issuing GO bonds • Phoenix voters have approved 12 bond programs since 1957, totaling $4.6 billion • 2006 GO Bond Program was the last • Last new money GO Bonds were issued in 2012 • GO bonds are issued for major capital infrastructure throughout the City with very finite legal restrictions Existing GO Bond Program 4 Legal Uses of Bond Proceeds • Capital projects (major infrastructure) ─ No operating costs or working capital ─ Long useful life • Cost of issuance ─ Bond Counsel ─ Financial Advisor ─ Underwriter • NO private activity or loans, unless bonds are issued taxable • Only what is written in the propositions 5 Existing GO Bond Debt Service $0 $20 $40 $60 $80 $100 $120 $140 $160 2022 2023 2024 2025 2026 2027 2028 2029 2030 2031 2032 2033 2034 Millions Annual GO Bond Debt Service (principal and interest) for $919 Million Principal Amount of Currently Outstanding GO Bonds Principal Interest • Debt service payments are made using Secondary Property Tax Revenues • Maximum annual debt service (MADS) is $155 million 6 GO Bond Reserve State Law HB 2011 ‐ Existing general obligation reserve fund balance must be <= 10% of annual debt service by end of FY 2023 $0 $50 $100 $150 $200 $250 $300 $350 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 GO Bond Reserve Fund Millions The City plans to use approximately $54 million of the GO Bond Reserve balance to pay‐off $58 million in debt service 7 Existing GO Bond Debt Service After Required Pay‐Off $0 $20 $40 $60 $80 $100 $120 $140 $160 2022 2023 2024 2025 2026 2027 2028 2029 2030 2031 2032 2033 2034 Millions Annual GO Bond Debt Service (principal and interest) for $867 Million Principal Amount of Bonds Outstanding After Required Pay‐Off GO Debt Service Pay‐Off Decreases MADS from $155 million to $146 million 8 GO Bond Refunding Opportunity • The City has $280 million outstanding (30% of total) in 2012 GO Bonds • The 2012 GO Bonds can be refunded for savings on 7‐1‐2022 • Total savings of approximately $15 million over the life of the GO Bonds $0 $5 $10 $15 $20 $25 $30 2023 2024 2025 2026 2027 2028 2029 2030 2031 2032 2033 2034 Millions 2012 GO Bonds Debt Service 2012 GO Bonds Savings from Refunding 9 Existing GO Bond Debt Service After Pay‐Off & Refunding $0 $20 $40 $60 $80 $100 $120 $140 $160 2022 2023 2024 2025 2026 2027 2028 2029 2030 2031 2032 2033 2034 Millions Annual GO Bond Debt Service (principal and interest) for $843 Million Principal Amount of Bonds Outstanding After Pay‐Off & Refunding GO Bond Debt Service Pay‐Off + Refunding Decreases MADS from $155 million to $135 million 10 GO Bond Program Considerations & Constraints 11 Bond Ratings • No increase to peak debt service, approximately $155 million • No negative impact to fixed cost burden • Affordability of additional operating expenses Property Tax Affordability • Capacity for $500 million of projects every 5 years • No increase to current total property tax rate of $2.1196 • No increase to secondary property tax rate of $0.8141 Legislative & Admin Mandates • Reduction of the GO Reserve Fund requiring pay‐off of debt • Growth rate assumption in election pamphlet • Timing of infrastructure needs (special initiatives) • Other legislative changes (ratio or debt limitation changes) Bond Program Capacity Considerations 12 0.0% 5.0% 10.0% 15.0% 20.0% 25.0% 30.0% 35.0% 2017‐18 2018‐19 2019‐20 2020‐21 2021‐22 Forecast 2022‐23 Forecast 2023‐24 Estimated 2024‐25 Estimated 2025‐26 Estimated 2026‐27 Estimated Pension Other Post Employment Benefits Debt Service New GO Bond Program Phoenix City Charter requires full payment of annual pension costs Fixed Cost Burden Fixed Costs as a Percent of Operating Revenues 13 Other Operating Budget Needs • Employee Compensation Increases • Classification & Compensation Study Impacts • Public Safety Pension (PSPRS) Costs • Information Technology Needs • Health Insurance Cost Increases • Trust Fund Reserve Levels • Fleet Replacements • Council and community demands for more programs and services 14 GO Bond Program Capacity As Presented in 2020 15 Summary of 2020 Presentation • The final discussion with the committee centered on the impact of timing on the bond sales • The committee recommended Option 1 or Option 2 • The committee also recommended that the City postpone a bond election for a year, November 2021 rather than November 2020 Option 3 $1.1 Billion* $200 million FY 2023 5‐year interest only $900 million FY 2028 no interest only Option 2 $615 Million* $200 million FY 2022 6‐year interest only $415 million FY 2024 4‐year interest only Option 1 $450 Million* $200 million FY 2022 6‐year interest only $250 million FY 2024 4‐year interest only *Assumed interest rates: FY 2022 – 4% FY 2024 – 5% 16 16 Total Property Tax Rates from 2020 Presentation $0.99 $1.19 $1.39 $1.59 $1.79 $1.99 $2.19 FY 2020 Rate No New Debt Scenario #1 Scenario #2 Scenario #3 $2.1296 Current Rate 17 2023 GO Bond Program Capacity • No new GO Bond Program • Four GO Bond Programs ‐ No change to Total Rate • Four GO Bond Programs ‐ No increase to Total or Secondary Rate 18 No New GO Bond Program 2.1196 2.1196 2.1130 2.0447 2.0387 1.9826 1.4927 1.4323 1.4239 FY 2022 FY 2023 FY 2024 FY 2025 FY 2026 FY 2027 FY 2028 FY 2029 FY 2030 Total Property Tax Rate Max Annual Debt Service $135 million FY 2023 No Increases Above Current FY 2022 Rate Total Rate Secondary Rate Fiscal Year $2.1196 $0.8141 FY 2023 $2.1130 $0.8141 FY 2024 $2.0447 $0.7521 FY 2025 Note: Tax rates are subject to change (plus or minus) based on actual Net Assessed Values (NAV). There is no guarantee that NAV forecast will be achieved. • GO Reserve Fund Pay-off by 7/1/23 • Refunding by 7/1/22 19 Scenario Modeling Assumptions • Four separate $500 million GO Bond Programs, every 5‐years • Use of GO Bond Reserve Fund to pay‐off a portion of bonds • Refunding of the GO Bonds, Series 2012A and 2012C • Refunding assumes current market interest rates plus 50bps (.50%) • First bond sale is interest only for three‐years; All others are interest only for 2‐years • 25‐year amortization for all bond sales Note: Tax rates are subject to change (plus or minus) based on actual Net Assessed Values (NAV). There is no guarantee that NAV forecast will be achieved. 20 Scenario Modeling Assumptions (continued) • Annual coupon payment of 5.0% on all new bond sales City Sells $100,000 Bonds at a price of 120 and 5% Coupon with a ten‐year maturity City Gets $120,000 from Bondholder Bondholder Receives 5% per year for 10 years + $100,000 at maturity ($150,000) The difference of $30,000 is the City’s actual cost or yield, 3% Note: Tax rates are subject to change (plus or minus) based on actual Net Assessed Values (NAV). There is no guarantee that NAV forecast will be achieved. 21 Timing of Bond Programs & Sales 1 1 2 $500 Million Bond Program to Voters November 2023 $250 Million Bond Sale FY 2024 $250 Million Bond Sale FY 2026 1 2 $500 Million Bond Program to Voters November 2028 3 3 4 2 3 4 4 $500 Million Bond Program to Voters November 2033 $500 Million Bond Program to Voters November 2038 $250 Million Bond Sale FY 2029 $250 Million Bond Sale FY 2031 $250 Million Bond Sale FY 2034 $250 Million Bond Sale FY 2036 $250 Million Bond Sale FY 2039 $250 Million Bond Sale FY 2041 22 Four GO Bond Programs – No Increase to Total Rate Note: Tax rates are subject to change (plus or minus) based on actual Net Assessed Values (NAV). There is no guarantee that NAV forecast will be achieved. Increases in Secondary Rate Total Rate Secondary Rate Fiscal Year $2.1196 $0.8141 FY 2023 $2.1130 $0.8141 FY 2024 $2.1130 $0.8204 FY 2025 $2.1130 $0.8264 FY 2026 $2.1130 $0.8351 FY 2027 Max Annual Debt Service $157 million FY 2027 2.1196 2.1196 2.1130 2.1130 2.1130 2.1130 2.0411 1.9970 1.9553 FY 2022 FY 2023 FY 2024 FY 2025 FY 2026 FY 2027 FY 2028 FY 2029 FY 2030 Total Property Tax Rate 23 Four GO Bond Programs – No Increase to Total or Secondary Rate Note: Tax rates are subject to change (plus or minus) based on actual Net Assessed Values (NAV). There is no guarantee that NAV forecast will be achieved. Max Annual Debt Service $157 million FY 2027 No Increases in Total or Secondary Rates Total Rate Secondary Rate Fiscal Year $2.1196 $0.8141 FY 2023 $2.1130 $0.8141 FY 2024 $2.1067 $0.8141 FY 2025 $2.1007 $0.8141 FY 2026 $2.0920 $0.8141 FY 2027 2.1196 2.1196 2.1130 2.1067 2.1007 2.0920 2.0411 1.9970 1.9553 FY 2022 FY 2023 FY 2024 FY 2025 FY 2026 FY 2027 FY 2028 FY 2029 FY 2030 Total Property Tax Rate GO Bond Reserve Fund balance is depleted to $4.4 Million 24 Total Prope rty Tax Rates $1.17 $1.37 $1.57 $1.77 $1.97 $2.17 Total Property Tax Rates FY 2022 Rate No New Debt Increase to Secondary No Increase to Secondary $2.1196 Current Rate Total Property Tax Rates Rate reflects primary only after 2034 25 Four GO Bond Programs – 6% Coupon or $600 Million Program Amount Note: Tax rates are subject to change (plus or minus) based on actual Net Assessed Values (NAV). There is no guarantee that NAV forecast will be achieved. Max Annual Debt Service $162 million FY 2027 No Increases in Total Rate Total Rate Secondary Rate Fiscal Year $2.1196 $0.8141 FY 2023 $2.1196 $0.8207 FY 2024 $2.1196 $0.8270 FY 2025 $2.1196 $0.8330 FY 2026 $2.1196 $0.8417 FY 2027 2.1196 2.1196 2.1196 2.1196 2.1196 2.1196 2.0411 1.9971 1.9551 FY 2022 FY 2023 FY 2024 FY 2025 FY 2026 FY 2027 FY 2028 FY 2029 FY 2030 Total Property Tax Rate • GO Bond Reserve Fund is depleted to $5.9 Million • Maintaining secondary rate of $0.8141 would require approximately $5.6 million in other sources 26 Legislative Scenario Modeling Assumptions • Growth in NAV in the first five‐years cannot exceed the actual 10‐year average growth rate in NAV, assumed 5% • Growth in NAV in year six and on cannot exceed 20% of the 10‐year average growth rate in NAV, assumed 1% • This assumption is not within the realm of any economic situation either realized or envisioned • The primary levy amount is impacted Note: Tax rates are subject to change (plus or minus) based on actual Net Assessed Values (NAV). There is no guarantee that NAV forecast will be achieved. 27 NAV Growth – Legislative Requirement 0.50% 1.00% 1.50% 2.00% 2.50% 3.00% 3.50% 4.00% 4.50% 5.00% 5.50% 2024 2025 2026 2027 2028 2029 2030 2031 2032 2033 2034 2035 2036 2037 2038 2039 2040 2041 2042 2043 2044 2045 2046 2047 2048 NAV Growth No Increase to Secondary Legislative Requirement Estimated NAV (in millions) Fiscal Year Forecast Legislative Requirement 2024 $16,063 $16,063 2025 16,723 16,723 2026 17,403 17,403 2027 18,278 18,273 2028 19,186 19,180 2029 20,128 20,122 2030 21,106 20,323 2031 22,120 20,527 2032 23,173 20,732 2048 46,392 24,310 28 Total Propert y Tax Rates $2.1197 $1.55 $1.60 $1.65 $1.70 $1.75 $1.80 $1.85 $1.90 $1.95 $2.00 $2.05 $2.10 $2.15 $2.20 $2.25 Total Property Tax Rates FY 2022 Rate No Increase to Secondary Legislative Requirement $2.1196 Current Rate Total Property Tax Rates in Pamphlet – Legislative Requirement Secondary Property Tax Rate Fiscal Year No Increase Secondary Legislative Requirement Difference 2024 $0.8141 $0.8139 ‐0.0002 2025 0.8141 0.8269 0.0128 2026 0.8141 0.8239 0.0098 2027 0.8141 0.8417 0.0276 2028 0.7714 0.7716 0.0002 2029 0.7352 0.7354 0.0002 2030 0.7010 0.7280 0.0270 2031 0.6688 0.7207 0.0519 2032 0.6317 0.7061 0.0744 2048 0.1511 0.2883 0.1372 29 Stress Scenario Modeling Assumptions • Legislature continues incremental cuts to commercial assessment ratio, until it reaches 10% (to match residential) • After that, appreciation is 2.5% • First year after the election, new construction slows two years in a row, down to levels similar to construction during the financial crisis • Primary rate is held constant, unless a reduction is required by the constitutional levy limit Note: Tax rates are subject to change (plus or minus) based on actual Net Assessed Values (NAV). There is no guarantee that NAV forecast will be achieved. 30 NAV Growth – Stress Scenario Estimated NAV (in millions) Fiscal Year Forecast Stress Scenario 2024 $16,063 $16,063 2025 16,723 16,633 2026 17,403 17,153 2027 18,278 17,683 2028 19,186 18,223 2029 20,128 18,775 2030 21,106 19,337 2031 22,120 19,910 2032 23,173 20,496 2048 46,392 33,449 0.50% 1.00% 1.50% 2.00% 2.50% 3.00% 3.50% 4.00% 4.50% 5.00% 5.50% 2024 2025 2026 2027 2028 2029 2030 2031 2032 2033 2034 2035 2036 2037 2038 2039 2040 2041 2042 2043 2044 2045 2046 2047 2048 NAV Growth No Increase to Secondary Legislative Requirement Stress Scenario 31 Total Propert y Tax Rates 2.1625 $1.55 $1.60 $1.65 $1.70 $1.75 $1.80 $1.85 $1.90 $1.95 $2.00 $2.05 $2.10 $2.15 $2.20 $2.25 Total Property Tax Rates FY 2022 Rate No Increase to Secondary Stress Scenario $2.1196 Current Rate Total Property Tax Rates Stress Assumptions • The increase to total rate in fiscal year 2027 of $0.0429 equates to approximately $7.6 million • Using the $4.4 million remaining in the GO Reserve Fund would leave $3.2 million to fund with other sources 32 Questions and Additional Discussion City of Phoenix Fiscal Capacity Committee Summary Minutes Monday, Feb. 7, 2022 Virtual Meeting – Via WebEx Committee Members Present Committee Members Absent Dave Krietor, Chair MaryAnn Guerra Ron Butler Deb Fisher Hope Levin 1. CALL TO ORDER Chair Krietor called the Fiscal Capacity Committee to order at 11:01 a.m. with committee members Ron Butler, Deb Fisher, and Hope Levin present. 2. REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE JANUARY 31, 2022 MEETING MINUTES Committee member Ron Butler made a motion to approve the minutes of the Jan. 31, 2022 meeting. Committee member Hope Levin seconded the motion, which passed unanimously, 4-0. 3. FINANCIAL CAPACITY RECOMMENDATIONS Chair Krietor recommended the committee discuss comments, suggestions, or changes they had on the drafted recommendation. Chair Krietor stated the report was reflective of what the committee learned and what had been discussed in previous meetings. He listed three suggestions based on his review of the drafted recommendation: 1. List the names of the committee members, dates the committee met, and attaching staff reports that were reviewed during the reconvened meetings 2. Update the language in the last paragraph of the Program Sizing and Bond Sale Timing section to state the committee is “strategically positioning” the city to allow for subsequent bond elections 3. Update the tone of the second paragraph in the Tax Rate Informational Requirement section to avoid an appearance of negatively characterizing statutory requirements Chair Krietor stated the report looked consistent with the analysis and modeling that had been discussed, and he opened the floor to the rest of the committee for suggestions or changes. Committee member Hope Levin referred to the last paragraph in the report and requested clarification that the report needed to state the tax rates are meeting the statutory requirements so that could be disclosed to the voters. She stated that the last sentence in the report appeared to be missing information and asked where the different scenarios would be included. Chair Krietor asked for suggestions from staff on how the Tax Rate Informational Requirements section could be revised, based on Committee member Levin’s feedback. Mr. Fazio stated the committee could consider moving the Program Sizing and Bond Sale Timing section to the end of the report, which would have the report end with the overall recommendations. Committee member Levin expressed her support for the change, explaining it provided her with clear direction that the committee was supporting the $500 million bond program and intended not to increase rates. Chair Krietor expressed support for moving the section up in the report and requested the language be tempered so that the City Council would not have the impression that the committee was demeaning the State’s legislative actions. Committee member Levin said she was fine with the final sentence in the Tax Rate Information Requirements section, as it was factual and expressed the impact to the voters. She suggested updating the sentence before it to state, “The committee believes the statutory requirements have been analyzed and are used in our recommendation.” Chair Krietor stated he was fine with that change. He stated he wanted to remove “misleading” but would be amenable to leaving in “pessimistic”. Committee member Levin asked if “pessimistic” was understated and requested clarification that higher growth rates could not be used. Chair Krietor explained his understanding of the sentence was that the state statute was forcing the use of a more pessimistic model, where the tax rate could be impacted. Mr. Fazio explained the biggest difference was that the modeled tax rates would be higher than they otherwise would be, and that the statutorily required model shows rates higher than what staff believes they would be. Chief Financial Officer Kathleen Gitkin stated what was being conveyed was that the modeling for the first five years almost exactly mimics the state requirement, which was more restrictive than staff’s modeling which had built in a generous cushion. She explained the thought process was that the committee evaluated the first five years, and the growth assumption was similar and could be endorsed but going out further would be risky because the difference would be drastic. Chair Krietor asked if the section could state that the statute would be reflected in the modeling, and the modeling for the first five years would be consistent with state requirements, since the committee would only be officially recommending the first bond program. Mr. Fazio clarified how the state statute might impact the information that would appear in the pamphlet, explaining that the rates would reflect higher than what staff would otherwise show them to be, and modeling would reflect more than five years of debt service in the pamphlet. Chair Krietor summarized the feedback received from the committee, including the recommendation to move the Tax Rate Information Requirements earlier in the report, and updating language to communicate to the City Council how the state statute might have an impact. Committee member Butler agreed with Chair Krietor’s comments and asked if the Ballot Timing section could be written similarly to the Program Timing and Sizing section, which stated the committee would be recommending to City Council to develop a 2023 bond program. Chair Krietor confirmed that was correct. He asked Committee member Butler if he was recommending changes to the language which stated, “the Fiscal Capacity Committee unanimously recommended the City Council develop a $500 million bond program for a November 2023 election”. Committee member Butler confirmed that his recommendation would be to make the language similar to what was written in the first paragraph of the Program Sizing and Bond Sale Timing section, where it describes the program as one portion of a larger long-term strategy. Chair Krietor asked if there were any issues with updating the language. Mr. Fazio confirmed the change could be made. Chair Krietor reconfirmed the changes requested in the recommendation would be to adjust the wording, move the Tax Rate Information Requirements earlier in the report, and conclude with the recommendation. He asked if one of his fellow committee members would offer a motion to approve the report. Committee member Levin made a motion to approve the report as finalized and that the recommendation supports the committee’s desire to see the city of Phoenix offer a $500 million bond program that would be brought before the voters on the ballot in November of 2023. Committee member Deb Fisher seconded the motion. Chair Krietor asked staff if the motion was sufficient. Budget and Research Director Amber Williamson confirmed the motion was sufficient and explained that staff would make edits to the document and send the finalized report to the committee within 48 hours. Chair Krietor agreed that it would be important to review the revised language and provide an opportunity for all committee members to see the final recommendation. The motion passed unanimously, 4-0. 4. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS Chair Krietor thanked the committee for returning for this effort. He detailed the next steps would be to receive a final draft of the recommendation from staff with language that was consistent with the discussion and motion. He requested clarification on when the item would go to the City Council for approval. Budget and Research Director Amber Williamson explained she was awaiting confirmation from the Mayor’s Office on timing of City Council briefings and agendas. She stated she would let the Chair know once direction has been received. Chair Krietor reiterated his appreciation for the work of staff and the committee members. He canceled the Feb. 15 meeting and requested a motion to adjourn the meeting. Committee member Ron Butler made a motion to adjourn. Committee member Deb Fisher seconded the motion, which was approved unanimously, 4-0. 5. ADJOURNMENT Chair Krietor adjourned the meeting at 11:25 a.m.