Attachment B - VPC Summary - PHO-5-22--Z-122-03-7.pdf

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City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
Village Planning Committee Meeting Summary 
PHO-5-22--Z-122-03-7 
Date of VPC Meeting 
January 9, 2023 
Date of Planning Hearing 
Officer Hearing 
January 18, 2023 
Request 
1) Modification of Stipulation No. 1 regarding general
conformance to a conceptual site plan;
2) Modification of Stipulation No. 13 regarding general
conformance to conceptual elevations;
3) Delete Stipulation No. 6 regarding landscape areas;
4) Delete Stipulation No. 15 regarding gasoline station
canopy materials and colors;
5) Delete Stipulation No. 18 regarding the street
abandonment of Huntington drive;
6) Delete Stipulation No. 23 regarding signage; and
7) Technical corrections to Stipulation Nos. 3, 4, 5, 10,
11, 12, and 16.
Location 
Northwest corner of 51st Avenue and Southern Avenue 
VPC Recommendation 
Approval with additional stipulations 
VPC Vote 
8-0
VPC DISCUSSION:
4 members of the public registered to speak on this item. Two of the members 
donated their time. 
Chair Abegg joined the meeting, bringing the quorum to 8 members. 
STAFF PRESENTATION: 
Enrique Bojórquez, staff, provided an overview of the Planning Hearing Officer 
(PHO) case, describing the location of the request, and adjacent uses at the 
corner of 51st Avenue and Southern Avenue. Mr. Bojórquez described each of 
the stipulation modifications, deletions, and technical appeals proposed as part 
of this request. Mr. Bojórquez stated that staff had received an updated site plan, 
building elevations, and a sign plan after this case was continued last month. Mr. 
Bojórquez added that these updated plans, date stamped December 29, 2022, 
were distributed to the committee. 
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City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
APPLICANT PRESENTATION: 
 
Jesse Macias, representing the applicant with M3 Design, introduced himself 
and the proposed car wash project. Mr. Macias met with members of the Laveen 
Citizens for Responsible Development (LCRD), Laveen VPC Chair and Vice 
Chair who recommended changes to the plans. Mr. Macias discussed the 
revised site plan, landscape plan, building elevation and monument sign. Mr. 
Macias stated that a windmill feature is now proposed at the corner of 51st 
Avenue and Southern Avenue, and the two updated monument signs reflect the 
character of the Laveen Village. Mr. Macias is open to reducing the maximum 
height on both signs from 20 feet to 15 feet (Southern Avenue), and 15 feet to 12 
feet (51st Avenue) respectively. Mr. Macias discussed the landscape plan which 
now incorporates the multi-use trail along 51st Avenue and discussed the screen 
wall design proposed. 
 
QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE: 
 
Rebecca Perrera liked the new landscape plan but would like to know the 
maximum height on the signage previously approved on the site. Mr. Bojórquez 
stated that the previously approved sign elevations showed a maximum height of 
12 feet for the monument signs. 
 
Vice Chair Hurd also liked the new landscape plan but has concerns with the 
proposed signage. 
 
JoAnne Jensen asked staff if there could be a stipulation added to the case 
which requires a flush median instead of a raised median across the driveway 
from this project. Mr. Bojórquez responded that the committee could add a 
stipulation addressing this, however staff does not encourage it given that staff 
relies on the Street Transportation Department to ensure that a technical 
comment like that is safe and meets other codes. Mr. Bojórquez added that the 
Street Transportation Department receives PHO applications and can comment 
on these types of requests. 
 
Chair Abegg stated that the committee could add language to a stipulation 
addressing the median by adding the words “…as approved by the Street 
Transportation or Planning and Development Department” to ensure that this 
requirement is reviewed by the pertinent department. Chair Abegg stated that the 
monument sign recently approved by the Laveen VPC on a Super Star carwash 
in November of 2022 had a maximum height of 16 feet. Chair Abegg would like 
for sign height to be consistent moving forward. 
 
PUBLIC COMMENTS: 
 
Dan Penton stated that this is a much better project following the revisions made 
to the drawings, however there are pending concerns about the signage 
proposed. Mr. Penton would prefer the digital sign display to be placed on the 
monument sign along 51st Avenue, instead of Southern Avenue. Mr. Penton 
liked the windmill feature but would like to see up lighting and changes to the 
lettering from “Welcome to Laveen” to something similar to “Laveen Welcomes

City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
You” given that there is already another corner feature at the intersection with the 
words “Welcome to Laveen”. 
 
Phil Hertel agrees with Mr. Penton and would like to limit how often the 
messaging changes on the digital sign display. Mr. Hertel would like for lit 
signage to be turned off when the business is closed. Mr. Hertel stated that the 
City should not have raised the street median across this driveway and instead 
should have installed a flush median to avoid traffic issues in the area. Mr. Hertel 
supports this case with the additional comments provided. 
 
APPLICANT RESPONSE: 
 
Mr. Macias stated that he was informed of comments by the Street 
Transportation Department which require the raised median across the project’s 
driveway. Mr. Macias would prefer that the committee add a stipulation not 
requiring the raised median, especially given the comments from LCRD 
members regarding the benefits of not having a raised median along there. Mr. 
Macias would prefer that signage is approved as proposed and is not reduced 
further, as the monument sign height is less than what was approved at the 
Super Star carwash recently. 
 
FLOOR/PUBLIC DISCUSSION CLOSED: COMMITTEE DISCUSSION:  
 
None. 
 
MOTION:  
 
Rebecca Perrera motioned to approve PHO-5-22—Z-122-03-7 with two 
additional stipulations. Chair Abegg seconded the motion. 
 
Additional Stipulations Approved: 
 
 
• The development shall be in general conformance with the sign plan date 
stamped December 29, 2022, except as modified below: 
 
a. The maximum height for the monument sign along 51st Avenue 
shall not exceed 12 feet. 
 
b. The maximum height for the monument sign (containing a digital 
display) along Southern Avenue shall not exceed 15 feet. 
 
• The median along the Southern Avenue entrance shall be flush (not 
raised) to allow full access along this roadway, as approved by the Street 
Transportation Department. 
 
 
VOTE:  
 
8-0; motion to approve PHO-5-22—Z-122-03-7 passes unanimously with 
Committee Members Barraza, Chiarelli, Jensen, Ortega, Perrera, Rouse, Hurd 
and Abegg in favor.

City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
 
 
STAFF COMMENTS REGARDING VPC RECOMMENDATION & STIPULATIONS: 
 
The sign plan date stamped December 29, 2022 does not distinguish where each of the 
two ground-mounted monument signs is to be placed. The tallest of the two monument 
signs has a digital board, while the shorter monument sign does not. 
 
Furthermore, the screen wall design depicted by the applicant during their presentation 
at the January 9, 2023 Laveen VPC meeting is not addressed in the approved 
stipulations or the plans provided by the applicant.

City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
 
Village Planning Committee Meeting Summary 
PHO-5-22--Z-122-03-7 
 
 
Date of VPC Meeting 
December 12, 2022 
Date of Planning Hearing 
Officer Hearing 
December 21, 2022 
Request 
1) Modification of Stipulation No. 1 regarding general 
conformance to a conceptual site plan; 
2) Modification of Stipulation No. 13 regarding general 
conformance to conceptual elevations; 
3) Delete Stipulation No. 6 regarding landscape areas; 
4) Delete Stipulation No. 15 regarding gasoline station 
canopy materials and colors; 
5) Delete Stipulation No. 18 regarding the street 
abandonment of Huntington drive; 
6) Delete Stipulation No. 23 regarding signage; and 
7) Technical corrections to Stipulation Nos. 3, 4, 5, 10, 
11, 12, and 16. 
Location 
Northwest corner of 51st Avenue and Southern Avenue 
VPC Recommendation 
Continuance to January 9, 2023 
VPC Vote 
9-0 
 
 
VPC DISCUSSION: 
 
4 members of the public registered to speak on this item.  
 
STAFF PRESENTATION: 
 
Enrique Bojórquez, staff, provided an overview of the Planning Hearing Officer (PHO) 
case, describing the location of the request, and history of previous PHO cases at the 
corner of 51st Avenue and Southern Avenue. Mr. Bojórquez described each of the 
stipulation modifications, deletions, and technical appeals proposed as part of this 
request. Mr. Bojórquez discussed the proposed site plan and building elevations 
provided by the applicant, in addition to the previously approved site plan, building 
elevations and sign plans. 
 
APPLICANT PRESENTATION: 
 
Jesse Macias, representing the applicant with M3 Design, introduced himself and the 
proposed car wash project. Mr. Macias stated met with the Laveen Citizens for

City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
Responsible Development (LCRD) and discussed potential various changes to the 
plans. Mr. Macias described updates made to the latest site plan shared on December 
12, 2022 which include a 10-foot-wide landscape setback along the western property 
line and curb cut adjustments within the current parcel. Mr. Macias described history of 
Cobblestone Auto Spa and explained that a five-tank reclaimed system is used, which 
uses up to 15.8 gallons of water per car. The goal is up to keep water use under 17 
gallons of water per car. Mr. Macias discussed the proposed stipulation modifications 
and deletions part of this request. Mr. Macias added that he received comments on the 
proposed building elevations late last week and did not have enough time to finalize 
these. Mr. Macias recommends adding a stipulation which requires that he return to the 
Laveen Village Planning Committee for review and comment of the site plan and 
building elevations. Mr. Macias stated that the LCRD would prefer that the building 
elevations complement the retail shops proposed north of the site. Mr. Macias 
discussed the possibility of having a corner monument sign with elements such as 
watermill. 
 
QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE: 
 
Rebecca Perrera requested clarification on the expectation from the VPC regarding this 
case. Chair Glass agreed and requested clarification from staff. Mr. Bojórquez stated 
that the committee could make a recommendation to deny, continue, or approve the 
request as filed or with modifications. 
 
Ms. Perrera expressed concern with having to make a recommendation with the 
information provided to the committee. Chair Glass responded that the committee 
could continue the case without fee to a future date. 
 
Carlos Ortega expressed concerns with having to approve a project without having 
applicants return to the committee for review and comment of their plans. 
 
Vice Chair Abegg asked if the applicant was willing to continue their case to the 
January 9, 2023 Laveen Village Planning Committee meeting. Mr. Macias responded 
that he would prefer to receive a recommendation of approval conditioned that he return 
to the Laveen Village Planning Committee to present plans prior to site plan approval. 
Ms. Abegg responded that the applicant does not seem ready for a recommendation 
that evening and would like to recommend a continuance on the case. Ms. Abegg 
recommends that the applicant reach out to the LCRD and Laveen VPC members 
ahead of the next meeting to share updated plans. 
 
Chair Glass requested that the applicant consider voluntarily continuing the case one 
more month. 
 
PUBLIC COMMENTS: 
 
Dan Penton stated that he had shared documents with the applicant on development 
approved for the two adjacent parcels. Mr. Penton supports a continuance on the case 
to air on the side of caution. 
 
Phil Hertel supports the continuance on the case and explained the PHO process. Mr. 
Hertel feels that this extra time will help to figure out the case.

City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
Jon Kimono stated that the continuance will help to review the entire proposal and 
ensure that appropriate materials, compatible with surrounding developments, are 
incorporated. 
 
Sandy Hamilton, with the LCRD, expected enhanced building elevations by now and 
supports the continuance of the case. 
 
APPLICANT RESPONSE: 
 
Mr. Macias agreed on continuing the case to the January 9, 2023 Laveen Village 
Planning Committee meeting. Mr. Macias was not privy to the sign-related issues with 
other projects in Laveen and has discussed these with his client who is community 
driven. Mr. Macias plans to meet with the LCRD and members of the Laveen VPC prior 
to the next meeting. 
 
FLOOR/PUBLIC DISCUSSION CLOSED: COMMITTEE DISCUSSION:  
 
Chair Glass discussed the offer to advertise Laveen events on the proposed sign. Ms. 
Glass thanked the applicant.  
 
MOTION: 
 
Vice Chair Abegg motioned to continue PHO-5-22—Z-122-03-7 to the January 9, 2023 
Laveen Village Planning Committee meeting. Rebecca Perrera seconded the motion. 
 
VOTE:  
 
9-0; motion to continue PHO-5-22—Z-122-03-7 passes with Committee Members 
Barraza, Chiarelli, Hurd, Jensen, Ortega, Perrera, Rouse, Abegg and Glass in favor. 
 
STAFF COMMENTS REGARDING VPC RECOMMENDATION & STIPULATIONS: 
 
The applicant on case PHO-5-22—Z-122-03-7 emailed an updated site plan to staff on 
December 12, 2022. The applicant now proposes general conformance to this latest site 
plan date stamped December 12, 2022.