Attachment A - Oct. 19, 2022 TIP Minutes

Phoenix City Council 
Transportation, Infrastructure, and Planning (TIP) Subcommittee 
Summary Minutes 
Wednesday, Oct. 19, 2022 
City Council Chambers 
200 W. Jefferson St. 
Phoenix, Ariz. 
Subcommittee Members Present                    Subcommittee Members Absent 
Councilwoman Debra Stark, Chair 
         
Councilwoman Ann O’Brien 
Councilwoman Laura Pastor 
Councilwoman Betty Guardado 
 
CALL TO ORDER 
Chairwoman Stark called the Transportation, Infrastructure, and Planning 
Subcommittee to order at 10:04 a.m. with Councilwoman Ann O’Brien, Councilwoman 
Laura Pastor, and Councilwoman Betty Guardado present.  
CALL TO THE PUBLIC 
None. 
MINUTES OF MEETINGS 
1. Minutes of the Transportation, Infrastructure, and Planning Subcommittee 
Meeting 
Vice Mayor Pastor made a motion to approve the minutes of the June 15, 2022 
Transportation, Infrastructure, and Planning Subcommittee meeting. Councilwoman 
O’Brien seconded the motion which passed unanimously, 4-0. 
CONSENT ACTION (ITEMS 2-5)  
Items 2-5 were for consent action. No presentations were planned, but City staff was 
available to answer questions. 
2. Metro, Regional Public Transportation Authority and Maricopa Association of 
Governments Meetings 
Information only. No Councilmember requested additional information. 
3. Citizens Transportation Commission Meetings 
Information only. No Councilmember requested additional information. 
4. Freeway Program Update 
Information only. No Councilmember requested additional information.

5. Bulk Trash Collection Delay Update 
Vice Mayor Pastor requested an update on this item.  
 
Chairwoman Stark invited Public Works Director Joe Giudice to give an update on the 
City’s Bulk Trash Collection Delay.  
Mr. Giudice introduced Deputy Public Works Director Lorizelda Stoeller and informed 
the subcommittee that bulk trash collection was three weeks behind schedule. He 
discussed adjustments that had been made to address the current delays, including 
updating the future collection schedule, working weekends, filling vacant positions, and 
securing a retention incentive for current Solid Waste Equipment Operators (SWEO). 
Mr. Giudice highlighted hiring events held on a weekly basis to fill vacant SWEO 
positions and invited those with commercial driver’s licenses to apply.  
Chairwoman Stark suggested Street Transportation Director Kini Knudson and Mr. 
Giudice collaborate to address the trash collection delays. 
Chairwoman Stark recommended Mr. Giudice and Mr. Knudson write an article for local 
newsletters explaining how the City is addressing the current staffing shortage.  
Vice Mayor Pastor said she would also be happy to facilitate and get the article 
published in Council District 4 newsletters.   
Vice Mayor Pastor discussed the City’s staffing shortage, stressing the importance of 
communicating with residents, equity in trash collection, and having a strategic plan for 
hiring and retention.  
Councilwoman Guardado stated the City appears to be shifting the blame for the trash 
collection delays onto workers. She urged the City to boost wages to attract and retain 
drivers.  
Vice Mayor Pastor stated residents should not receive violation notices for trash items 
accumulating on their property because of pickup delays.  
 
Councilwoman O’Brien asked Mr. Giudice about some of the strategies related to hiring 
and retention incentives the City is using.  
Mr. Giudice replied with an overview of the City’s approaches, including hiring and 
retention incentives and starting new operators with higher pay.   
Chairwoman Stark thanked Mr. Giudice for his efforts to address the bulk trash 
collection delays. She reiterated her willingness to help him publish a written column 
explaining the current staffing shortage in local newspapers.

INFORMATION AND DISCUSSION (ITEMS 6-8)  
 
6. Smart Traffic Signal Technology Update 
Chairwoman Stark invited Street Transportation Director Kini Knudson to provide an 
update on item 6.  
 
Mr. Knudson introduced Assistant Street Transportation Director Briiana Velez and gave 
a presentation on the City’s smart signal pilot projects.  
 
Mr. Knudson provided an overview of smart signal trends and the need to replace old 
traffic signal technology to keep up with the City’s population growth and reduce delays 
and congestion. Ms. Velez discussed traffic signal system coordination and 
optimization.         
 
Vice Mayor Pastor asked Ms. Velez the objective of the Bell Road Adaptive Signal 
Control Technology pilot program and why it did not work.  
 
Ms. Velez explained the initial goal of the adaptive signal technology was to 
automatically detect traffic congestion and adjust traffic signal timing accordingly. She 
added the Bell Road Adaptive Signal pilot program did not achieve this objective to 
justify the cost of the technology.  
 
Vice Mayor Pastor asked Ms. Velez if the City has found a technology that could 
achieve what the Bell Road Adaptive Signal pilot program could not.   
 
Ms. Velez replied she was not familiar with other technologies to recommend, but staff 
would continue studying new technologies. 
  
Mr. Knudson added staff was also exploring bicycle and pedestrian detection 
technology.       
 
Councilwoman Guardado asked whether the adaptive signal control and pedestrian 
detection technology discussed would affect the length of time a traffic light stays yellow 
before turning red.     
Mr. Knudson replied that yellow light timing tends to differ at different intersections 
based on the speed limit, and light signals are adjusted accordingly. He added the City 
was examining revised yellow light timing guidelines and planned to bring the results to 
the subcommittee in December.  
Vice Mayor Pastor remarked that yellow light timing should be consistent throughout the 
City’s roadways according to traffic signal standards and regulations.

7. Federal Bipartisan Infrastructure Law - Grant Funding Update 
Deputy City Manager Mario Paniagua gave an overview of the Federal Bipartisan 
Infrastructure Law and various grant funding opportunities the City had received or 
was pursuing.    
Vice Mayor Pastor asked Mr. Paniagua to clarify the community projects that could be 
included in the City’s Bipartisan Infrastructure Law/Infrastructure Investment and 
Jobs Act (BIL/IIJA) grant opportunities.  
Mr. Paniagua explained the City was pursuing the grant opportunity because it 
contained community-enhancing and improvement provisions.  
Vice Mayor Pastor requested additional information on the City’s BIL/IIJA community-
specific grant opportunities. 
Councilwoman Guardado asked Mr. Paniagua if the City was applying for flood 
mitigation assistance grants.  
Mr. Paniagua replied the City planned to apply for this grant to help address stormwater 
and other flood mitigation-related needs. 
Councilwoman Guardado requested the prioritization of 55th Avenue from Osborn Road 
to Camelback Road for stormwater and flood mitigation efforts because of the danger 
flooding posed to students in the area. 
Chairwoman Stark asked Mr. Paniagua if the City was evaluating federal grant funding 
that could complement the current General Obligation (GO) Bond program. 
Mr. Paniagua explained that there is overlap and the City was using much of the GO 
Bond resources for programs that may not easily be funded through federal grants. 
However, programs such as Vision Zero Road Safety are applied to both the GO Bond 
program and federal grant funding.                
Councilwoman Guardado asked Mr. Paniagua if there are categories of federal grant 
funding that could be used to address the expansion of tree planting, flood control, and 
bicycle infrastructure. 
Mr. Paniagua confirmed there was funding available for those needs.  
Councilwoman Guardado asked if the Building Resilient Infrastructure and Communities 
(BRIC) grant included funding for more trees in the City. 
Mr. Paniagua confirmed that projects including those enhancements are potentially 
eligible under that grant.

Councilwoman Guardado stressed the importance of leveraging all available federal 
resources to help prevent floods, plant more trees, and create equitable bicycle 
infrastructure.  
Vice Mayor Pastor asked if BIL/IIJA were the same grant opportunity.   
Deputy City Manager Paniagua confirmed that was correct.  
Vice Mayor Pastor asked Mr. Paniagua to go over how the City applies for flood 
mitigation assistance grants. 
Deputy City Manager Paniagua explained that the BRIC and Flood Mitigation 
Assistance grants must first be vetted by the state’s Department of Emergency 
Management. So staff first identifies specific flood mitigation projects in an area for 
funding and then provides information to the state about why that mitigation is needed. 
If selected by the state to move forward, those projects are included in an application to 
the federal government to contend for grant awards. 
Vice Mayor Pastor asked if the Pedestrian Bridge being built over the Rio Salado has 
protection for bikers and pedestrians.   
Deputy City Manager Paniagua explained that the bridge will only be accessible to bikes 
and pedestrians which will eliminate conflicts with vehicles.  
Councilwoman O’Brien asked if staff was looking into broadband and cybersecurity-
related infrastructure grant opportunities.  
Deputy City Manager Paniagua confirmed staff was looking into those types of grants.  
8. Update on Lead and Copper Rule Revision Update  
Water Services Director Troy Hayes introduced Assistant Water Services Director 
Brandy Kelso, Deputy Water Services Director Darlene Helm, and Deputy Water 
Services Director Jennifer Calles to present on the Lead and Cooper Rule Revision 
Update, which would require galvanized service lines to be changed to prevent lead 
from entering drinking water at a cost of $40 million.  
 
Chairwoman Stark asked if the $40 million was part of the recent rate increase 
approved by the City Council. 
 
Mr. Hayes explained the $40 million was separate from the cost estimated at the time of 
the rate increase but some funding was set aside in the GO Bond program and grant 
funding was expected from the state.    
 
Vice Mayor Pastor asked Mr. Hayes to explain how replacing the City’s underground 
service line pipes would prevent lead from entering residents’ water systems.

Mr. Hayes said there were no known lead service lines in the water system, and the City 
aimed to replace galvanized service pipes.  
 
Vice Mayor Pastor asked how schools would determine if their fixtures needed to be 
evaluated for lead. 
 
Mr. Hayes replied that all schools in the Phoenix area were recently tested for lead 
services lines. 
 
Ms. Calles added there is a legal requirement for elementary and nursery schools to be 
tested for lead service lines every five years, and high schools could request such tests 
at no cost. She confirmed the City accommodates such requests.  
 
Vice Mayor Pastor asked about outreach and engagement with schools regarding lead 
service line testing. 
 
Mr. Hayes confirmed outreach was being done with schools.  
 
Councilwoman O’Brien asked if the test results could change, given all schools were 
recently tested for lead services lines.  
 
Mr. Hayes replied that results would not change unless schools changed their fixtures. 
 
Councilwoman O’Brien asked how the City would cover the $40 million cost to change 
the galvanized service lines. 
 
Mr. Hayes explained there was $20 million in the GO Bond program earmarked for the 
galvanized service line and additional funding would come from the state through 
federal grants.  
 
Councilwoman O’Brien asked how residents would be informed if galvanized service 
lines needed to be replaced. 
 
Mr. Hayes replied that the City would do condition assessments to identify service line 
types and make replacement arrangements.     
 
9.  Request to Issue Air Cargo Development Revenue Contract 
Solicitation at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport 
 
Aviation Director Chad Makovsky introduced Assistant Aviation Director Roxann Favors 
and Aviation Superintendent Richard Graham and presented on the Air Cargo 
Development Revenue Contract Solicitation at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport.  
 
Vice Mayor Pastor recommended a lease end date for current tenants of the air cargo 
area proposed for development be included in the solicitation.

Mr. Makovsky explained that impacted tenants would have plenty of notice to relocate to 
another location and committed to incorporating the Vice Mayor’s recommendation of a 
lease end date into the proposed strategy.  
 
Councilwoman O’Brien asked for clarification on the notice provided to tenants. 
 
Mr. Makovsky discussed the phases of the proposed air development solicitation, which 
could take years to complete before impacting tenants.  
 
Mr. Graham added that the timeline had been shared with tenants, including when they 
would be expected to vacate for development. 
 
Councilwoman O’Brien asked if the City offered to help tenants relocate.  
 
Mr. Graham replied that the tenants had not asked for relocation assistance, but the 
City had offered to relocate them to Phoenix Deer Valley Airport or Phoenix Goodyear 
Airport.    
 
Councilwoman O’Brien asked when the City last estimated rent appraisals for the air 
cargo section of the airport.  
 
Mr. Graham responded rent appraisals were completed two years ago.  
 
Councilwoman O’Brien asked whether any significant change in rent was expected, 
given the ups and downs of the economy.  
 
Mr. Graham said the City had done similar appraisals which indicated rents would be 
higher based on the current market value. 
 
Vice Mayor Pastor commented on current lease terms for air cargo area tenants, noting 
a 30-year lease agreement with the City and an additional 10-year extension option. 
She asked what would happen after the 40-year lease agreement ended. 
 
Mr. Graham replied that the property would return to the Aviation Department at the end 
of the lease agreement and the City could lease it out to other tenants or use it for other 
purposes.  
 
Vice Mayor Pastor made a motion to approve item 9. Councilwoman O’Brien seconded 
the motion which passed unanimously, 4-0.   
 
CALL TO THE PUBLIC  
None. 
 
FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS

 Planning and Development Processes   
 New Development Drought Policy  
 Public Transportation Agency Safety Plan  
 Drought Management Plan  
 
ADJOURNMENT 
Chairwoman Stark adjourned the meeting at 11:52 a.m. 
 
 
Respectfully submitted, 
 
Yusuf Dirow 
Management Fellow