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City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
Village Planning Committee Meeting Summary 
Z-61-22-7
Date of VPC Meeting 
January 9, 2023 
Request From 
R-5 RI, P-1, and C-3 CMOD
Request To 
WU Code T5:5 and WU Code T5:5 CMOD
Proposed Use 
Multifamily residential
Location 
Southeast corner of 9th Avenue and Fillmore Street
VPC Recommendation 
Continuance to February 13, 2023
VPC Vote 
12-3-1
VPC DISCUSSION:
Seventeen members of the public spoke on this item, 10 in favor and seven in 
opposition. 
Committee Member Christopher Colyer recused himself for this item, bringing quorum 
to 15 members. 
STAFF PRESENTATION 
Anthony Grande, staff, provided an overview of the subject site and surrounding area, 
the proposed zoning, and the proposed development. Mr. Grande described the 
background of policies affecting the area, the staff findings, and staff recommendation 
of approval subject to stipulations. 
APPLICANT PRESENTATION 
Shane Essert, representing the applicant with Trumont Group Arizona, introduced 
himself and provided an overview of the proposal, discussing the history of the 
company and their involvement with the site, the project location, the existing condition 
of the site leading to a desire to redevelop, and the proposed development. Mr. Essert 
further described the outreach and citizen participation for the project, leading to the 
evolution of the design through three stages. 
QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE 
Rachel Frazier Johnson noted that some of the opposition was concerned about 
parking and asked the applicant for clarification on the proposed parking. Mr. Essert 
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replied with the parking numbers, noting that it meets code. 
 
Cyndy Gaughan asked if Trumont Group would be involved in the development of the 
new church. Mr. Essert replied that they would not. 
 
Darlene Martinez asked about bike parking on the site and asked how the 
development team is defining attainable housing. Mr. Essert replied that bike parking 
is included and that the proposed housing is targeting people in the income range of 
50,000 dollars to 80,000 dollars annual income without using any affordable housing 
financing mechanism. 
 
Vice Chair O’Grady asked about ground floor activation with the carriage units and 
about the anticipated rents for each type of unit. Mr. Essert provided the rent 
breakdown by unit size and noted that commercial spaces will be included on the 
ground floor of the carriage units, intended to be leasable as art studios. 
 
Zach Burns asked about the involvement of the Historic Preservation Commission 
(HPC). Mr. Essert replied that the applicant went to the HPC and there was not a 
recommendation to preserve any portion of the site. Mr. Grande explained the process 
for receiving a demolition permit for older buildings, including review by the HPC. 
 
Jeff Sherman asked if other alternatives were considered, such as developing the 
parcel across the street, and asked if some of the parking could have been put to a 
different use. Mr. Essert stated that the team had discussed many options with the 
church and that ultimately the proposed development provided the best option for the 
church for this site. 
 
PUBLIC COMMENTS 
Anthony Cox introduced himself as a pastor of the church living across the street from 
the subject site and stated that he supported the project because it will enhance the 
area and allow the church to continue its presence in the neighborhood. Mr. Cox noted 
that the site has become a burden to the church because of blight and disrepair.  
 
Mollie McCurdy introduced herself as a resident living near the subject site and stated 
that the project does not incorporate community concerns, asking the Committee to 
vote for a continuance. 
 
Med Skeens introduced himself and spoke in favor of the proposal, stating that he 
sees the benefit of the development and that preservation of the existing building would 
be very expensive. 
 
John Ramirez introduced himself and spoke in favor of the proposal, stating that he 
lives in the neighborhood and is a member of the church and that the existing buildings 
are very old.

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200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
Cheryl Fulford introduced herself and spoke in favor of the proposal, noting that she 
would be in favor of something new at the site and that it would be very expensive to fix 
what is there now. 
 
Ricky Aulds introduced himself and stated he was in favor of the proposal, stating that 
he sees the blight every day and looks forward to the improvements on the site and 
that it would be very expensive to keep the site as-is. 
 
Skyler Cook introduced himself and spoke in favor of the proposal, noting that the 
church cannot afford to maintain the existing buildings on site. 
 
Jack Marks introduced himself and spoke in opposition to the proposal, stating that 
although the church was not determined historic by the HPC, it is still significant with 
architecture related to a building in Encanto Park. Mr. Marks stated that the church 
could be blended into the design of the existing building and that he is concerned that 
the project doesn’t integrate with the neighborhood. 
 
Ashley Harder introduced herself as the Interim Executive Director of Preserve 
Phoenix and spoke in opposition to the proposal. Ms. Harder stated that the 
determination made by the HPC is related to eligibility for the Phoenix Historic Register 
and does not preclude a project from incorporating elements of the existing building 
and asked the Committee to vote for a continuance. 
 
Roger Brevoort introduced himself as a board member of Preserve Phoenix and 
spoke in opposition to the proposal. Mr. Brevoort stated that there are people within the 
preservation community who do not agree with the determination that the existing 
building is not eligible, adding that it is a significant building with unique features and 
the applicant’s proposed design is not adequate, as he believes a portion of the 
existing building should be retained. 
 
Margarete Moffett introduced herself and spoke in favor of the proposal, noting that 
she lives on the property and sees blight that she believes is a safety issue if the 
building is maintained. 
 
Beatrice Moore introduced herself as the Director of Grand Avenue Arts and 
Preservation and spoke in opposition to the proposal. Ms. Moore stated that the church 
is responsible for keeping the building in good repair and the applicant’s proposal for 4 
stories is too tall and doesn’t include enough activation of the ground floor, adding that 
the opposition came to the table to negotiate with the developer to improve the project 
and incorporate preservation of a portion of the existing building. She stated she does 
not support the rezoning because the developer has not agreed to any preservation. 
 
DeeDee Garcia Blase provided additional background information on the Grand 
Avenue Members Association.

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Ellie Lambert introduced herself and spoke in favor of the proposal, noting that it will 
enable the church to serve more people. 
 
Benjamin Hall introduced himself and spoke in opposition to the proposal, stating that 
the opposition’s request is not to restore the building, simply to preserve it. Mr. Hall 
stated that he did not agree with the WU Code zoning and would rather see the 
setbacks of the existing R-5 district. 
 
Dillon Moffett introduced himself and spoke in support of the proposal, stating that he 
has concerns with the existing building, as there are active leaks. 
 
Mark Daus introduced himself as a nearby business owner and spoke in favor of the 
proposal, stating that it will be a beautiful project and will bring in new residents to the 
area while also benefiting the church. 
 
APPLICANT RESPONSE 
Shane Essert stated that the church is not eligible for historic preservation designation 
and that retaining the portion under discussion poses design challenges, noting that the 
building is not functional and has maintenance issues. Mr. Essert further stated that 
there are tall buildings in the surrounding area and that the while original building was 
designed by Mahoney, every wall has been changed since then, meaning the building 
should not be considered a 1956 construction. 
 
MOTION 
Ash Uss made a motion to recommend a continuance to the February 13, 2023 
meeting. Cyndy Gaughan seconded the motion. 
 
COMMITTEE DISCUSSION 
Cyndy Gaughan stated that she believes concessions could be made to preserve 
portions of the building. 
 
Zach Burns agreed that some of the sanctuary and bell tower could be preserved. 
 
Ash Uss stated that she would like to see if someone from the City could follow up to 
meet the church’s needs. 
 
Wayne Rainey stated that he supports the continuance to allow further discussion. 
 
Dana Johnson agreed with the continuance and asked for clarification on the process. 
Mr. Grande clarified that the item could be continued at the Planning Commission 
meeting. 
 
Vice Chair O’Grady questioned whether anything would change in the next month, 
adding that there is pressure for housing in Phoenix and this income band is one that’s 
needed.

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City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
 
Nate Sonoskey stated that he believes the Committee has all the information it needs, 
adding that it appears the development team is the right team for the project and that 
he recognizes there is community support and a need for housing.  
 
Rachel Frazier Johnson stated that she supports the continuance, noting that many 
people care about this area and that she believes more discussion between the 
developer and the community would be helpful. Ms. Johnson stated that she would 
like to see elements of the existing building preserved and that this could be a 
beneficial project for the area. 
 
VOTE 
12-3-1, motion to recommend a continuance to the February 13, 2023 meeting passes; 
Committee Members Burns, Gaughan, Johnson, R. Johnson, Lockhart, Martinez, 
Nervis, Rainey, Sherman, Starks, Uss, and Vargas in favor; Committee Members 
Sonoskey, O’Grady, and Gonzales opposed; Committee Member Colyer recused. 
 
STAFF COMMENTS REGARDING VPC RECOMMENDATION: 
 
None.

City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
 
 
Village Planning Committee Meeting Summary 
Z-61-22-7 
 
 
Date of VPC Meeting 
February 13, 2023 
Request From 
C-3 CMOD, P-1, and R-5 RI  
Request To 
WU Code T5:5 CMOD, WU Code T5:5 
Proposed Use 
Multifamily residential 
Location 
Southeast corner of 9th Avenue and Fillmore Street 
VPC Recommendation 
Approval, per the staff recommendation 
VPC Vote 
8-6 
 
 
VPC DISCUSSION: 
 
Twenty-five members of the public registered in support of the item, 10 of which 
wishing to speak. Thirty-nine members of the public registered in opposition, six of 
which wishing to speak.   
 
STAFF PRESENTATION 
Sarah Stockham, staff, briefly noted the updated hearing dates for the case and did 
not provide a full presentation since the item was heard last month.  
 
APPLICANT PRESENTATION 
Shane Essert, representing the applicant with Trumont Group, provided an overview of 
the proposal. Mr. Essert identified the project location and noted the site is currently 
zoned for high density apartments. Mr. Essert added the property operates as a church 
and that there were structures on the site which had maintenance costs which were a 
financial burden. Mr. Essert shared that the proceeds from the sale of the site would 
allow the church to build a new campus in the neighborhood and would also bring 
much needed housing. Mr. Essert concluded that the project received 110 letters of 
support in the Triangle Neighborhood with 16 properties that directly neighbor this site. 
 
QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE 
Cyndy Gaughan commented about the controlled joint cracks under the structural 
study, stating those are intentionally placed on the property.

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City of Phoenix • Planning & Development Department 
200 West Washington Street, 3rd Floor • Phoenix, Arizona  85003-1611 • (602) 262-6882 
Eva Olivas asked for clarification that the property was already zoned for the proposed 
use, asked if it was going to get built one way or the other, and commented that the 
report did not say the structure is going to fall down. Mr. Essert replied that he was just 
reporting the findings of the structural engineer. 
 
Jeff Sherman said from a sustainability standpoint the building is not designated as 
historic and the applicant has a demolition permit, but that it was a waste of resources 
to demolish the church and rebuild one across the street and questioned if there would 
be stipulations on how the proposed church project across the street would be 
developed in the future. Mr. Essert stated the church wants to sell the entire site to 
fulfill their mission across the street, which will include a sanctuary and office space. 
Mr. Sherman asked what the zoning was on the property across the street. Ms. 
Stockham, staff, shared that churches are generally allowed in residential districts and 
are sometimes subject to conditions or use permits.  
 
Nate Sonoskey asked if the church could be demolished today, and if the site was 
already zoned for high-density housing. Mr. Essert said yes, the church could be 
demolished as they went through the 30-day demolition hold process and have a 
demolition permit, and the Historic Preservation Commission deemed it not eligible for 
designation. 
 
Edward Vargas shared concern that there had been several residents living on site 
and asked if it is unsafe and dangerous. Mr. Essert replied it was a legitimate concern 
but a better question for the church to answer, whose representatives are registered to 
speak.  
 
Darlene Martinez asked if the applicant was willing to preserve the bell tower existing 
on site. Mr. Essert said yes, they are committed to saving the bell tower and it would 
remain in place as part of the apartment building. 
 
Rachel Frazier Johnson shared she attended the meeting at the church and 
appreciated the opportunity to attend. 
 
Zach Burns asked for clarification regarding the proposal to build a new sanctuary and 
office across the street, commented that the lot across the street is much smaller and 
asked if they had a feasibility study. Mr. Essert said they had a feasibility study. 
 
Vice Chair Ian O’Grady inquired about the possible remedy for historic preservation 
and funding availability to keep the church in its original location. Mr. Essert stated the 
church owns the land and needs the funding to build a new, safer church that includes 
office space and a sanctuary.  
 
PUBLIC COMMENTS 
Robert Graham introduced himself as a former Central City VPC member and Chair, 
and as President of Grand Avenue Members Association (GAMA). Mr. Graham stated 
his opposition to the proposal and that the site is a landmark for the Triangle

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Neighborhood. Mr. Graham added that he believed it was important to preserve the 
sanctuary, it is a reasonable request, and that while he was thankful for the 
continuance there was no discussion or back and forth with the applicant. Mr. Graham 
added that he provided the developer with a potential plan to preserve the sanctuary 
and maintain the required parking spaces and units. Mr. Graham concluded that if the 
building was demolished, they should construct a quality building with modern 
architecture rather than a project that is built to look like the historic church and 
concluded that the developer is not a creative place maker and does not think outside 
the box and that many neighborhood groups were united in opposition to this proposal. 
 
Cheryl Fulford said she was in support and that the church would go under if it did not 
get rezoned. Ms. Fulford invited people to come to the church and she would show how 
the church facilities were not sustainable, sharing that the site only has one 
groundskeeper. Ms. Fulford concluded by reiterating her support. 
 
Anthony Cox introduced himself as one of the pastors of the church and stated that he 
was a part of the public outreach, and he’s thankful for the overwhelming support and 
for the hard work of Mr. Essert. Mr. Cox stated the church wants to remain a part of the 
community and move across the street to the site they own, and the church needs 
major improvements with no funding availability. 
 
Beatrice Moore introduced herself as Director of the Grand Avenue Arts and 
Preservation (GAP) group and a property owner in the area, and that when the church 
came into the area eight years ago, there was a conversation about affordable housing 
and that this proposal has no affordable housing. Ms. Moore added that the developer 
did not allow a meeting to explore solutions and to find common ground, this proposal 
sets a troubling precent and that she felt the lack of affordable housing units was 
notable and unacceptable. Ms. Moore added that she would like to see the bell tower, 
sanctuary, and colonnades be preserved as she felt they were character defining and 
asked that the request be denied so they could continue working on a solution.  
 
Ryan Phillips introduced himself and his family who live across the street from the 
subject site. Mr. Phillips said he signed the petition but is speaking in support, and that 
they feel the developer has listened to their concerns and has reached out many times.  
 
Mark Daus introduced himself as the neighbor directly south on Taylor Street. Mr. 
Daus shared that as a good neighbor he supports the proposal, it looks nice, and that 
everyone has the right to make decisions in favor of their business.  
 
Med Skeens said he was in support of the developer who he believed was a very good 
listener, noted the support letters were in Spanish and English, the proposal preserves 
the bell tower and that they need to build a new facility across the street that can serve 
not only the church but the ministry offices. 
 
Ashley Harder with Preserve Phoenix, a preservation advocacy organization, 
introduced herself and shared that they want to be supportive of the church and its

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transition, they do not oppose housing or density, and the primary requests are to 
preserve the bell tower, sanctuary, and colonnade. Ms. Harder added a demotion 
permit does not determine what is or is not of value to the community, it is just saying if 
the site is eligible for historic designation or not. Ms. Harder added that if the owner 
was willing to preserve the property, they could be eligible to receive grant funding, 
more work should be done to consider preservation, and that she did not support the 
current plan.  Ms. Harder requested the committee dig in to saving the building, and 
that they would like to get to a place where they can support the plan with adequate 
stipulations to address their concerns.  
 
Ricky Aulds shared he was one of the pastors of the church and was thankful for all 
the neighbors, the comments, and support the church and proposal has received. Mr. 
Aulds shared he and his wife live on site, and only one pastor gets paid currently due to 
the church’s financial situation, and that it was time for something to be done since they 
had a developer willing to listen. 
 
Skyler Cook mentioned that most developers would have closed and moved forward 
with demolishing the site since it is not eligible for historic designation, that it is a 
beautiful building but not feasible to maintain and noted that the church had a vision for 
growth and development of the community, and they wanted help to create a new 
landmark at the corner. 
 
Gail Skeens introduced herself as a member of the church who helps with the church’s 
financial administration, who has lived and worked downtown for 25 years. Ms. Skeens 
shared that the applicant has gone above and beyond, and that the church spends a 
large portion of their budget on repairs, but they have a small congregation and limited 
funds. Ms. Skeens added that it would be a huge blessing if they did not have to worry 
about the needs of the building such as plumbing, leaking roofs, and gas leaks daily 
and that a new church building would provide wrap around services and would be more 
efficient. 
 
Dillon Moffett stated he has lived in the community for several years and was the 
music leader at the church. Mr. Moffett shared that many of the issues with the church 
building have been inherited, they have done the best they can in serving and giving 
back, and that he liked the proposal to preserve the bell tower.  
 
Margarete Moffett said she lived on the property with her husband and that they want 
to be good neighbors and serve the community. Ms. Moffett shared that she felt the 
new proposal was honoring and beautiful and she is excited for the project to move 
forward and continue being part of this neighborhood. 
 
Benjamin Hall said he has lived in the neighborhood for many years and that the 
community just started to scratch the surface on the impacts of the WU Code. Mr. Hall 
reiterated the request to preserve the bell tower, sanctuary, and colonnade. Mr. Hall 
added that the community has mixed feelings of what the zoning would provide. Mr.

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Hall said the project would act more like a gated community and he wanted to make 
sure the developer would have a long-term interest in the community. 
 
Mollie McCurdy shared that the applicant must have nefarious reasons for requesting 
to rezone the site if he already has a demolition permit and exiting zoning that allows 
the use. Ms. McCurdy shared that they already demolished a single-story dwelling to 
make way for a parking lot, asked that the committee oppose the request and as the 
rezone does not make sense, and to see what the developer can build by-right.   
 
APPLICANT RESPONSE 
Shane Essert replied that it was sad that it was stated he was up to nefarious activity 
in the rezoning case. Mr. Essert concluded that there was a lot of heartfelt testimony, 
and it was wonderful to work with everyone since 2020. 
 
FLOOR/PUBLIC DISCUSSION CLOSED: COMMITTEE DISCUSSION 
Nate Sonoskey stated that he appreciated the applicant and the public comments, 
shared that he made a list of pros and cons and shared that if the committee supports 
the proposal the applicant will demolish the site and build a new building that we have 
seen, and if they oppose the proposal the applicant can still demolish the site and it will 
be a vacant lot and they do not know who the developer will be. Mr. Sonoskey added if 
they support the project there will be 126 new apartments, if they oppose the project 
the site will remain as is which the church does not want, if they support the project the 
church will remain solvent and if we oppose, the church could go bankrupt, and they 
have heard mixed comments regarding support, opposition, and sharing that the 
developer should just demolish the building.  
 
Darlene Martinez shared she also had a pros and cons list and indicated she visited 
the church and saw the demo of a building nearby, and that it is the church’s property, 
and this is what they want.  
 
Vice Chair O’Grady shared the proximity of the support, the liability for the church to 
maintain the property, the housing crisis and that this will provide missing-middle 
housing at around 80%-100% AMI made this a compelling project. 
 
Darlene Martinez added that she liked the proposal to keep the bell tower, and the 
design with the arches and colonnades. 
 
Eva Olivas commented that the rent of $1,400 a month might be acceptable to some 
but people who currently live at the church cannot afford that, there is no commitment 
to keep the rents at that affordable rate, it is the church’s property, and this is what they 
want, the Downtown RDA should incorporate neighborhood vision so that the public 
feels that they are being heard and committees can act on recommendations that 
support community vision, and that she was happy to hear about preserving the 
belltower.

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Patrick Panetta said that he tries to stick with what the request focuses on, it is not a 
design review or historic preservation case, and the proposal is consistent with the 
General Plan and TOD Plan and has staff’s recommendation of approval.  
 
Chair Nick Gonzales said there is a need for housing in addition to preserving history 
and this project would help solve the need for housing and help with the housing crisis.  
 
Cyndy Gaughan stated she liked that more housing would be provided, the historic 
structure is important, and she looked forward to projects including a more affordable 
component. 
 
Rachel Frazier Johnson shared that it was a tough decision, and she wishes there 
was better dialog between the applicant and the neighbors, and that while she will be 
voting know she wanted to see the church to do well and continue to serve the 
community. 
 
Darlene Martinez shared that she also wished there was more dialog and interaction 
with the applicant and opposition, and she liked that this was bringing more housing to 
this area but wishes it would be more affordable. 
 
Ali Nervis stated his concern that the church did not incorporate affordable housing 
into the plan, and will be voting no.  
 
Nate Sonoskey said this was not the end of the road and encouraged both sides to 
continue the dialogue. 
 
Janey Pearl Starks shared that she has been voting no on projects that do not include 
affordable and work-force housing, so she will be voting no.  
 
Edward Vargas shared that he will also be voting no, and that he would have liked to 
see language about affordable housing.  
 
MOTION 
Chair Nick Gonzalez made a motion to recommend approval of Z-61-22-7 per the staff 
recommendation. Darlene Martinez seconded the motion.  
 
VOTE 
8-6, motion to recommend approval of Z-61-22-7 per the staff recommendation passes 
with Committee Members Gaughan, Lockhart, Martinez, Panetta, Sherman, Sonoskey, 
O’Grady and Gonzales in favor; and Committee Members Burns, R. Johnson, Nervis, 
Olivas, Starks, and Vargas opposed. 
 
STAFF COMMENTS REGARDING VPC RECOMMENDATION: 
 
No comment.