February 5, 2020 Draft Minutes

City of Glendale — Regular Meeting (2020-03-04)

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City of Glendale 
Citizens Utility Advisory Commission 
Oasis Water Campus 
7070 W. Northern Avenue 
February 5, 2020 
6:00 P.M. 
DRAFT MINUTES 
 
 
 
 
1.  CALL TO ORDER  
Chair Liebman called the meeting to order at 6:05 p.m.  
  
2.  ROLL CALL 
Present: Chair Jonathan Liebman, Vice Chair Ron Short, and Commissioners Robin Berryhill, Larry 
Flatau, and Amber Ford 
Absent: Commissioner David McGrew 
 
Also Present: Craig Johnson, Director, Water Services; Kerri Logan, Deputy Director, Water Services; 
Michelle Woytenko, Director, Field Operations; John Henny, Deputy Director, Water Services; Dan 
Hatch, Financial Administrator, Water Services; Katrina Alberty, Administrator, Water Services; Megan 
Sheldon, Deputy Director, Water Services; Samuel Pena, Public Works Program Manager, Field 
Operations; Ron Serio, Deputy Director, Water Services; Julia Cary, Financial Analyst, Water Services; 
Matthew Dudley, Transportation Program Manger 
 
3.  CITIZEN COMMENTS  
None. 
 
4.  APPROVAL OF MINUTES 
a. Citizen Utility Commission Minutes of December 4, 2019 
 
Motion by Commissioner Flatau, second by Commissioner Short, to approve the December 4, 2019 
Citizens Utility Advisory Commission meeting minutes as written.  Motion carried 5 – 0.   
 
5.  DIRECTOR’S REPORT  
 
Ms. Woytenko, Field Operations Director, gave a report on the Recycling Program, which included the 
following: 
• There was a briefing at Council workshop in January.  Councilmember Malnar, now Vice Mayor, 
had asked for a much more in-depth review of the recycling program and it was determined that 
the review would take a great deal of staff time, approximately 320 to 340 hours of staff time.  
Council consensus on this use of staff time was needed and given.  Staff had planned on spending 
about 200 hours initially, so the request was for an additional 100 hours or so.  The scope of the 
project will be to look at the future of recycling, community outreach, and community education.

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• As a result of this presentation, two newspapers have done a few articles on recycling, in which 
staff was misquoted.  The reporter was contacted regarding the misquote and the reporter stated 
that the quote was factual.  Ms. Woytenko explained that the quote was factual, however it was 
taken out of context.  The Mayor had asked Ms. Woytenko about trash and Ms. Woytenko 
responded, however did not use the word “trash” in her response as it was a direct response to the 
Mayor’s question.  Ms. Woytenko clarified that staff is not recommending the City cancel its 
recycling program; rather staff will be suggesting changes to it. The slant on the articles in the 
newspaper was not right. 
• There will be a survey to citizens, an economic recycling review, and outreach to residents 
conducted soon. Surprise has suspended their recycling program and yesterday, the Surprise City 
Council agreed to continue to suspend the program for another 18 to 60 months until they 
determine what to do with their recycling.   
• The City of Phoenix has just finished public meetings on recycling.  At the end of February, 
Phoenix City Council will take a look at its rates and the recycle program.   
 
Chair Liebman asked if the sensitivity analysis would include what a change means to the landfill.  Ms. 
Woytenko replied in the positive. Chair Liebman stated that the recycling program is slated for the 
Commission’s August agenda and asked if perhaps the Commission would receive information on the 
recycling program prior to August 2020. Ms. Woytenko relayed that staff would like to issue the survey 
to residents pretty quickly and stated the timing will be pulled up if possible.   
 
Vice Chair Short asked if only in-house City staff would be conducting the review of the recycling 
program. Ms. Woytenko replied in the positive and announced there is a brand new Recycle Supervisor.  
Ms. Woytenko noted that the Marketing Department will be working on social media and outreach.   
 
Commissioner Berryhill commented that she saw on television regarding a company such as Proctor and 
Gamble, who is starting to put their product in bags versus plastic containers due to issues with the oceans.  
Commission Berryhill asked if this change would help with the recycling program.  Ms. Woytenko could 
not specifically comment on that scenario at this time. 
 
Mr. Craig Johnson, Water Services Director, announced he was very proud of the new format for the 
Clean and Green for 2020, which is in a calendar format and includes the bulk trash schedule, household 
hazardous waste dates, and a number of conservation activities.  Commissioner Flatau stated that he saw 
a lot of positive information on this calendar on the Nextdoor.com.  Mr. Johnson reported that the City’s 
new customer service interface was launched this week, which has many new capabilities and is a good 
step in the right direction for good communication and good customer service. 
 
6.  CENSUS REMINDER 
Mr. Matthew Dudley, Transportation Program Manager, was in attendance in place of Ms. Jenna Goad, 
Assistant Director of Public Affairs.  Mr. Dudley’s comments included the following: 
• He is in attendance to give a reminder on Census 2020.     
• March 12th is the date that the Census goes live. 
• The Census can be filled out on paper, online, or on a smart phone.    
• It is important for all to be counted in the Census as it drives the amount of federal funding 
received.

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• The Transportation Department is in the process of repurposing an old GUS Bus into a Census 
Bus. The Census Bus will travel to different communities to get the word out about the Census.   
• Everyone will receive a reminder in the mail to complete the Census.  
• April 1st is Census Day.   
• Mayor and Council are filming promotional pieces on the Census which will be shown on Channel 
11. 
 
No questions.  The agenda item was concluded. 
 
7.  CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN REVIEW 
 
a. Solid Waste and Landfill CIP Review  
Ms. Woytenko gave an overview of the Solid Waste and Landfill CIP and the Landfill G.O. Bond, which 
included the following information for FY20 through FY29:  
• Solid Waste CIP by Project 
o Changes since the last presentation were explained.  
o There was a dramatic increase in truck prices, which has impacted forecasting.   
o Software Process improvements includes routing software.   
• Landfill CIP Budget by Project  
o Changes since the last presentation were explained.  
• Landfill CIP by Funding Source   
• Landfill General Obligation (G.O.) Bond  
o A Citizen’s Bond Commission has been formed and the Landfill CIP information was 
presented to the Committee as well.  
o There are two types of projects:  pay as you go and bonding projects.  Staff spoke 
with Council regarding using bonds for those projects with a longer life.  Generational 
Funding was explained.   
o G.O. Bond Debt 
▪ Use full-faith and credit of the City 
▪ Lower borrowing cost 
▪ Principal and interest paid by the Landfill Fund 
o Capital Projects 
▪ Landfill North Cell Construction  
▪ North Cell Liner 
• Landfill Phase Construction – North:  Including detailed project description, justification, 
and project fiscal year budgets.   
• North Cell Liner – North:  Including detailed project description, justification, and project 
fiscal year budgets. 
 
Commissioner Flatau inquired as to the reason the design costs was spread out over fiscal years.  Ms. 
Woytenko relayed that this is because it is a series of phases of excavation and design.  Ms. Woytenko 
stated that the landfill industry is highly regulated and there are regulations of various agencies which 
must be met and sometimes cause changes. Commissioner Flatau inquired about how the initial cost 
estimates for the landfill was obtained.  Ms. Woytenko replied that staff works with the City’s Engineering 
Department and a large national landfill consulting company.  Commission Flatau asked if contingencies

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are in the budget.  Ms. Woytenko replied and stated that if the contingencies were not used, they will go 
back into the overall budget.  
 
Vice Chair Short asked what is the threshold for the equipment to be part of the CIP.  Ms. Woytenko 
replied that the threshold is five years or $50,000.00.   
 
The agenda item was concluded.   
 
b. Water Services CIP Review 
Mr. Johnson stated that there are only a few new projects coming up in the CIP, as last year’s projects are 
still being completed.  Mr. Johnson announced that Water Services is still operating on pay-as-you go for 
the projects, i.e. cash; and at some point, a decision will need to be made regarding revenues and fund 
balances.  Mr. Johnson said the department is challenged with spending the money fast enough, due to the 
availability of resources, project managers, and engineering.   Mr. Johnson reported that the five year 
forecast has the cash outlays for the next five years and the department is looking at an infusion of revenue 
bond funds, possibly in the next fiscal year.   
 
 
Mr. Hatch gave an overview of the Water Services 10-Year CIP, which included the following 
information:  
• Total Water & Waste Water CIP -  
o FY19-20 Request by fiscal year 
o FY20-21 Request by fiscal year 
• Plant Projects – FY19-20 and FY20-21 Requests by Fiscal Year – Details Provided on: 
o Arrowhead Water Reclamation Facility 
o Cholla Water Treatment Plant 
o Pyramid Peak Water Treatment 
• Systems Projects – FY19-20 and FY20-21 Requests by Fiscal Year 
o Pipes & Manholes 
o Hydrants & Valves 
o Meter Vaults 
• Water Resources – FY19-20 and FY20-21 Requests by Fiscal Year 
o Groundwater Well Rehabilitation 
o Water Supply Redundancy 
 
Chair Liebman asked about the initial rate increases and the amount of bond fund proceeds needed.  Mr. 
Hatch stated that in the 2017 plan, it was estimated that $28 million would be needed for this year, but 
with the delay in several projects, this has been pushed out into the next fiscal year.  Mr. Hatch noted that 
the amount would be $30 million instead of $28 million in the fall of FY20-21.  Chair Liebman asked 
about the large increase in FY20-21 CIP for the Cholla Water Treatment Plant.  Mr. Hatch explained this 
was due to increased steel costs and the change in scope.  Mr. Serio provided more details on the change 
in project scope.  Mr. Serio reported that the initial project focused on reservoirs and booster stations, 
however, once the project commenced, other needs under the water were noticed.  Mr. Serio described the 
scope changes.  Vice Chair Short inquired about the use of contingency funds.  Mr. Serio explained that 
there are project contingency, however, it was not large enough to cover the other items found.  Mr. Serio 
stated that the contingency has not been used at this time and funds budgeted for other projects have been

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moved to cover this project specifically. Mr. Serio noted that during the downturn, a lot of maintenance 
was deferred and catch up maintenance is being planned at this time. 
 
Vice Chair Short asked how long the Cholla Plant will be down. Mr. Serio replied that the plan is expected 
to be down for two months.  Mr. Serio hoped the plant would be back in service by the end of March.   
 
Commissioner Flatau asked if this same presentation will be made to Council. Mr. Hatch replied the 
presentation would similar. Commission Flatau inquired about a discrepancy in the totals on two of the 
slides.  Mr. Hatch explained that in the later slides, only the major projects were shown.  Mr. Hatch 
explained that the slides that Council will see will have more information.  Mr. Hatch briefly explained 
the project budget and estimating process.  Mr. Johnson agreed that sometimes changes in projects lead 
to necessary adjustments or re-prioritization of projects. Chair Liebman recommended explaining to 
Council large project budget swings in the CIP.   
 
Commissioner Ford asked if Peoria has an expected completion date for the Pyramid Peak Plant.  Mr. 
Serio stated the estimate is about two more years, there is a contractual date for completion, and the only 
way it can be extended is by formal request to add time to the contract.  Mr. Serio reported the project is 
on track and on schedule at this time. 
 
Commissioner Ford asked if it is typically a two-month period of time when a treatment plant is taken off-
line. Mr. Serio stated that this depends on a variety of factors and gave examples of how plants are taken 
off-line and the timing of such.     
 
Mr. Johnson commented that the Redundancy Project relies primarily on the Colorado River Water and 
explained how he is working with Phoenix and Peoria regarding interconnections. Mr. Johnson explained 
this project and its impact in detail.   
 
Chair Liebman thanked staff for the information.   
 
8.  FINALIZE CY2020 CALENDAR AND AGENDA TOPICS 
Ms. Logan facilitated discussion on the CUAC CY2020 Calendar and Agenda Topics.  Ms. Logan stated 
that a previous request was made to have Councilmember Turner give a report to the CUAC on his trip to 
Israel.  Ms. Logan consulted with the City Manager’s Office who consulted with the City Attorney’s 
Office and a determination was made that it was not appropriate for the Commission to invite a single 
Councilmember make a presentation to the Commission or share information with the Commission who 
serve in an advisory role to the Council as a whole.  Therefore, it was not added to the calendar for 2020.  
Ms. Logan submitted a draft calendar for review and acceptance. Ms. Logan stated that changes can be 
made throughout the year, as needed, and the main intent here is to ensure that the Commission has a plan 
for the year.    
 
Chair Liebman noted that the April and September meetings are vacated on the calendar and asked if that 
could change.  Ms. Logan replied that it could change if something comes up.   
 
Commissioner Flatau asked for an update on Water Supply and the Interstate Agreement to be included 
on the calendar.  Mr. Johnson estimated that the state would not be at the trigger point for another 18 
months to 2 years, per Mr. Drew Swieczkowski.

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Motion by Commissioner Flatau, second by Vice Chair Short, to approve the CUAC CY2020 
Calendar and Agenda Topics as presented.  Motion carried 5 – 0.   
 
9.  COMMISSIONER COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS 
 
Commissioner Ford commented on the excellent presentations and agreed with Commissioner Flatau 
regarding the Water Supply Update presentation request.  Chair Liebman suggested April or September.  
Ms. Logan recommended September because more detailed information on this topic is available in 
August.  Ms. Sheldon agreed.         
 
Commissioner Flatau appreciated staff’s patience with all of his questions and the good answers provided.     
 
Vice Chair Short commented on the levels of complexity for the water and trash services and of which 
most of the public is not aware. Vice Chair Short was amazed by all of the work and presentations done 
by staff.   
 
Commissioner Berryhill thanked staff for all of the presentations. 
 
Chair Liebman concurred with all of the comments and thanked staff for answering all of the 
Commissioners comments.   
 
10.  NEXT MEETING 
The next meeting regular meeting of the Citizens Utility Advisory Commission will be held on March 4, 
2020 at 6:00 p.m. at the Oasis Water Campus, 7070 W. Northern Avenue, Glendale, Arizona, 85303.     
 
10. ADJOURNMENT 
Motion by Vice Chair Short, second by Commissioner Flatau, to adjourn the meeting at 7:36 p.m.  
Motion carried 5 – 0.   
 
 
Respectfully submitted, 
Denise Kazmierczak