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From: JCampo@Scottsdaleaz.gov,
To: kieslerfam@aol.com,
Cc: Jessica.May@Maricopa.Gov,
Subject: RE: Easement Abandoment 5809 E Milton Dr Cave Creek, AZ 85331
Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2020 3:51 pm
Attachments:
Hi Jenny,
 
The PUE dedication you’ve attached works for Scottsdale Water and our requirements.
 
In terms of next steps, I believe you need to re-apply with Maricopa County as you did before, and in that second
application process, the PUE dedication will need to be included. Maricopa County will then ask us for our
determination again. At this time we then can approve the abandonment because the PUE dedication is included within
the application.
 
I believe this is how the process works, but this is Maricopa County’s jurisdiction, not Scottsdale Water. You will want
to confirm the next steps with Jessica as she will know the process better.
 
Thank you,
 
Julia Campo | Water Resources Engineer-In-Training (EIT)

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“Water Sustainability through Stewardship, Innovation and People”
9379 E. San Salvador
Scottsdale, AZ 85258
(480)312-5215
 
 
 
From: Kieslerfam <kieslerfam@aol.com> 
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 11:02 AM
To: Campo, Julia <JCampo@Scottsdaleaz.gov>
Subject: Re: Easement Abandoment 5809 E Milton Dr Cave Creek, AZ 85331
 
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Hi Julia
 
Here is the recorded document for the PUE.  Where do we go from here?  Do you send something to AZDOT?   Here is who I have been working with
there.  Jessica May (DOT) (Jessica.May@Maricopa.Gov)
 
Thank you for you assistance in getting this done

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Jenny Kiesler
-----Original Message-----
From: Campo, Julia <JCampo@Scottsdaleaz.gov>
To: Kieslerfam <kieslerfam@aol.com>
Cc: Rahman, Rezaur <RRahman@Scottsdaleaz.gov>; 'Jessica May (DOT)' <Jessica.May@Maricopa.Gov>
Sent: Tue, Apr 21, 2020 2:05 pm
Subject: RE: Easement Abandoment 5809 E Milton Dr Cave Creek, AZ 85331
Ms. Kiesler,
 
The City of Scottsdale Water Resources Department is willing to allow 23-feet of abandonment instead of the originally proposed 20-feet. However if we were to
allow 23-feet of abandonment, your water meter would then sit on the inside of your property boundary. We would then require a dedicated access easement in
order to regularly access the water meter. Additionally, you would not be able to build a driveway along that location because the driveway cannot sit on top of the
water meter; nor construct a boundary wall because the water meter cannot be enclosed. Our field crews must be able to easily access the meter without going
onto private property.
 
You could relocate your water meter outside of your property boundary then no access easement would be required. However, relocating the water meter would be
at your own cost. Scottsdale Water can perform this work and if the relocation is less than 15-feet of movement, they will do it for a small fee. If its greater than 15-
feet of movement, its considered a new service which is more expensive. I’ve attached a document which displays these costs if you decided to go that route.
 
Thank you,
 
Julia Campo | Water Resources Engineer-In-Training (EIT)
“Water Sustainability through Stewardship, Innovation and People”
9379 E. San Salvador
Scottsdale, AZ 85258
(480)312-5215
 
 
From: Kieslerfam <kieslerfam@aol.com> 
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 7:03 PM
To: Campo, Julia <JCampo@Scottsdaleaz.gov>
Subject: Re: Easement Abandoment 5809 E Milton Dr Cave Creek, AZ 85331
 
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Julie
 
Thanks for the email below, I am one of the people who recently responded to the city inquiry about hooking up to sewer and said if it came, I would hook up!  So I
understand what you are saying.  I also am not holding my breath because we are in Cave Creek and not Scottsdale, plus we are a lower population because of

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acre lots.   I would think we would be low priority, but  you never know!  
 
Would it be possible for the City of Scottsdale to come down to just a 10' easement rather than the 13'?  I just want to re iterate all the utilities, when staked  were
13' west of our lot, the person who staked your water showed the service line going further west of the electric. Attached is a video I made the day the APS
engineer was out, he used his survey tool to mark my property line.  In the video I am walking west from the existing house, I am following the power and phone
lines on the right side of the video in white you will see where we want to place our addition.  As I am moving just before I get a cactus in my foot you see the black
line ahead that is my property line marked.  As I start moving again I will pass the property line, I get past approx 13 1/2 feet and then I turn North and you see the
blue line marked, then I turn south and back north and walk up to where blue stake marked the water in blue, you will see he marked it with a blue arrow pointing
further west.  His point is showing it further west of the electric.   
 
We went with our plans into Maricopa County 3 times once before and twice during the design and engineering of our garage, and asked about easements and
were told there was nothing.  So we were so surprised when this all came up!  
 
We did have the plans drawn up originally with a 29.58' setback and then redrew once we were told again there was no easement (the one I sent you with the
marking showed 22.53"). If the City of Scottsdale would agree to 10" we could go back to that plan with the 10' easement and our 20' setback.  This would allow us
to keep our plans for a 3 car garage addition.  
 
And which ever way the City decides to go what is the next move?  Do you need to record the easement change?  
 
Thank you so much for your time 
Jenny Kiesler
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Campo, Julia <JCampo@Scottsdaleaz.gov>
To: Kieslerfam <kieslerfam@aol.com>
Cc: Rahman, Rezaur <RRahman@Scottsdaleaz.gov>; 'Jessica May (DOT)' <Jessica.May@Maricopa.Gov>
Sent: Mon, Apr 20, 2020 8:10 am
Subject: RE: Easement Abandoment 5809 E Milton Dr Cave Creek, AZ 85331
Good Morning Ms. Kiesler,
 
Unfortunately I am cannot approve the 33-foot easement abandonment along the west side of your property and my initial determination remains as is.
 
The existing 8-inch water main, not your service line, along 58th Street sits along the west side of the “road”. However, the determination to only allow 20-feet of
abandonment is because the City of Scottsdale Water Resources Department needs to reserve the remaining 13-feet for future sewer lines. Currently, there is no
sewer service within the area but we must plan that there will be infrastructure improvements in the future.
 
Best Regards,
 
Julia Campo | Water Resources Engineer-In-Training (EIT)
“Water Sustainability through Stewardship, Innovation and People”

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9379 E. San Salvador
Scottsdale, AZ 85258
(480)312-5215
 
 
From: Kieslerfam <kieslerfam@aol.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 2:42 PM
To: Campo, Julia <JCampo@Scottsdaleaz.gov>
Subject: Easement Abandoment 5809 E Milton Dr Cave Creek, AZ 85331
 
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Hi Julie
 
I received you name and email address from Jessica May at the AZDOT.  I have been working on an abandonment of a patent easement on the north and  west
side of my lot and have one by one been working with the utility companies that have service in the area.  I received the above letter from AZDOT advising that the
City of Scottsdale  did provide an objection to the abandonment of a patent easement on the west side of our lot.  APS also initially objected but ad we investigated
and they sent an engineer out they have decided allow the abandonment.
 
We really do not care about the north side we just put it in here while we were doing it!
 
Attached is the document from AZDOT named City of Scottsdale for your reference, that states you would consider 20 feet.  I have also included attachments from
APS and Centurylink agreeing to abandon the west side and just setting utility easements.  
 
I have had the west side of our lot blue staked and we found that the utilities do not run on my lot,  They are approximately 14 to 15 feet west of my property line
west on the adjacent lot.  I only have the service lines up to my connections.  
 
I have also included a picture from the plans we had submitted to Maricopa County building for the addition.  I have marked it up so you could see what we are
planning on doing, and where your water lines run with the new addition.  
 
What we are asking is if the City of Scottsdale would do what both APS and Centurylink have agreed to and abandon the existing easement.  We do not have any
plans to build west of our new garage. 
 
If it would help and you would like to send an engineer out like APS did, I could have the City of Scottsdale water lines  re-blue staked.    Please let me know, or
contact me if you do have questions.  I usually tell people I am a flight attendant if you call leave me a message and I will get back.  With the virus I am flying very
little (boo hoo). 
 
Please email or phone, and thank you for taking the time and consideration.  If we can do this we feel it will give us such a better layout of our house, so we are
hoping!  
 
Thank you and have a great day 
 
Jennifer Kiesler
5809 E Milton Drive 
Cave Creek, AZ 85331
480-205-8616

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PS We have lived in Scottsdale for most of our life until we moved out here!  I wish you had the power to have Scottsdale Annex us!  
 That would make me
really happy!!

4/9/2020 
 
 
Jennifer Kiesler 
5809 E. Milton Dr.  
Cave Creek, AZ 85331 
480.205.8616 
kieslerfam@aol.com 
 
No Reservations/No Objection 
 
SUBJECT:  Release of the north and west 33-feet of Federal Patent Easement #1206500, 
dated 3-14-1960, situated at 5809 E Milton Dr., Cave Creek, AZ 85331 
 
APN:  211-45-072B 
 
Mrs. Kiesler:  
Qwest Corporation, d/b/a CENTURYLINK QC (“CenturyLink”) has reviewed the request for the 
subject vacation and has determined that it has no objections with respect to the areas proposed 
for vacation as shown and/or described on Exhibit “A”, said Exhibit “A” attached hereto and 
incorporated by this reference. 
It is the intent and understanding of CenturyLink that this Vacation shall not reduce our rights to 
any other existing easement or rights we have on this site or in the area. 
This vacation response is submitted WITH THE STIPULATION that if CenturyLink facilities are 
found and/or damaged within the vacated area as described, the Applicant will bear the cost of 
relocation and repair of said facilities. 
If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to Annette Zohner via email at 
Annette.Zohner@CenturyLink.com.  
 
Sincerely yours, 
 
Tommy Sassone 
Network Infrastructure Services 
CenturyLink 
P827031

Exhibit A