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TOLLESON CITY COUNCIL MEETING ACTION MINUTES 
TOLLESON CIVIC CENTER 
9055 WEST VAN BUREN STREET, TOLLESON, AZ 85353 
ZOOM WEBINAR ID: 840 6967 9194 
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 24, 2026 
6:00 PM 
Doors open to Council Chambers at 5:45 PM for public seating. The public may be asked to 
temporarily relocate if an executive session occurs. The public will be invited back into Council 
Chambers when the Council returns from executive session.  
Members of the public may also participate in the meeting via Zoom Webinar 
(https://us02web.zoom.us/j/84069679194) with a computer or cell phone. 
A.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Rodriguez called the Tolleson City Council Meeting to order at 6:00 PM.
B.
INVOCATION/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Invocation was delivered by Development Services Director Earp, and the Pledge of 
Allegiance was led by Council Member Chavira.
C.
ROLL CALL
City Council: Mayor Juan Rodriguez, Vice Mayor Jimmy Davis, Council Member Christine 
Chavira, Council Member Clorinda Erives, Council Member Adolfo Gámez, Council 
Member Linda Laborin, and Council Member Cruzita Mendoza.
Department Directors: City Manager Reyes Medrano Jr., Deputy City Manager/Chief 
Government Affairs Officer Pilar Sinawi, Deputy City Manager/Employee Resources 
Director Wendy Jackson, Chief Financial Officer Kevin Artz, Chief of Social Impact George 
Good, City Clerk Crystal Zamora, Development Services Director Jason Earp, Field 
Operations/Parks & Recreation Director Randy Babchuk, Fire Chief Michael Young, 
Library Director Mandy Carrico, and Public Safety Director/Police Chief Rudy Mendoza.
City Representative: City Attorney Jon Paladini
D.
FINAL CALL TO SUBMIT SPEAKER REQUESTS

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All citizens and interested parties wishing to speak before the Council regarding non-
agenda items or during a public hearing shall fully complete a Speaker Request Form and 
submit the form(s) to the City Clerk prior to the meeting being convened. Citizens must 
complete one form for each item they want to address. Speaker Request Forms are located 
at the entrance of the Council Chambers. For Zoom participants, click the chat button, and 
enter your name and the item you would like to address. Submissions should be made no 
later than the Mayor announcing the “Final Call to Submit Speaker Requests”. All speakers 
will be limited to 3 minutes unless otherwise noted by the Mayor. Speakers are not 
required to disclose their identities or personal information. You may also submit an online 
speaker request form at https://www.tolleson.az.gov/speakerrequest at least one hour 
prior to the meeting. 
E. 
CALL TO THE PUBLIC (NON-AGENDA ITEMS) 
 
This is the time for the public to comment on non-agenda items. Members of the Council 
may not discuss items that are not specifically identified on the agenda. Therefore, 
pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.01.H, action taken as a result of public comment will be limited 
to (1) responding to criticism; (2) directing staff to review the matter; or (3) asking that a 
matter be put on a future agenda. 
F. 
SCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCES AND PROCLAMATIONS – FOR DISCUSSION 
 
1. 
Introduction of New Employees:  
Fire Department – Will Burner, Battalion Chief 
Public Affairs Department – Jacqueline Ochoa, Public Affairs Coordinator  
Utilities Department – Alexandra Meadows, Wastewater Operator and Paul Vega 
Soto, Wastewater Operator  
Employee Promotions:  
Fire Department – Sean Lucas, Fire Captain 
 
2. 
Tolleson Elementary School District Funding Support Report – Giselle Herrera, 
Superintendent 
G. BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR – PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ACTION ITEMS 
H. 
CONSENT AGENDA – ACTION ITEMS 
 
Items on the Consent Agenda are of a routine nature and are intended to be acted upon in 
one motion. Council Members may pull items from Consent if they would like them 
considered separately.  
 
1. 
Approve Regular City Council Meeting Minutes of February 10, 2026. (City Clerk 
Department) 
 
2. 
Approve Claims and Bills Report for the period of February 4, 2026 to February 17, 
2026. (Finance Department)

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3. 
Approve First Amendment to the Cooperative Purchasing Agreement between the City 
of Tolleson and American Fence Company of Arizona, Inc. for fencing materials and 
installation services, and authorize the City Manager to execute and deliver said 
Amendment. The City desires to amend the existing Agreement to increase the annual 
aggregate amount from $100,000 to $200,000 for additional services and to extend 
the term of the Agreement from February 1, 2026 to February 1, 2027. (Development 
Services Department) 
 
4. 
Approve Third Amendment to the Cooperative Purchasing Agreement between the 
City of Tolleson and CDW Government LLC for Software Value Added Reseller Services, 
and authorize the City Manager to execute and deliver said Amendment. The City 
desires to amend the existing Agreement to increase the annual aggregate amount 
from $300,000 to $375,000 for each fiscal year from July 1, 2024 through June 30, 
2027. (Information Technology Department) 
 
5. 
Approve the Professional Services Agreement between the City of Tolleson and Rossco 
Electric, LLC for lighting materials and services to convert lighting at Veterans Park 
from halogen to LED, and authorize the City Manager to execute and deliver said 
Agreement. The City shall pay the Contractor an amount for the services at the rates 
set forth in the Fee Proposal. The maximum aggregate amount for this Agreement 
shall not exceed $250,000. This Agreement shall remain in full force and effect until 
February 1, 2027. (Parks and Recreation Department) 
 
Council Member Gámez moved to approve Consent Agenda items 1. through 5.; the 
motion was seconded by Council Member Laborin. The motion carried 7 to 0. 
Mayor Rodriguez – Aye  
 
Vice Mayor Davis – Aye   
Council Member Chavira – Aye 
Council Member Erives – Aye  
Council Member Gámez – Aye 
Council Member Laborin – Aye 
Council Member Mendoza – Aye 
I. 
WORK STUDY AND PRESENTATIONS – FOR DISCUSSION 
 
1. 
Housing Study Update – Noel Schaus, Revitalization Manager  
J. 
REGULAR AGENDA – ACTION ITEMS 
 
1. 
Adopt/Deny Resolution No. 2633 of the Mayor and Council of the City of Tolleson, 
Arizona, approving financial support for the redevelopment of two current public 
housing properties within the City of Tolleson, approving a loan in the amount of 
$500,000 at an interest rate between 2% and 3%, approving development-related fee 
waivers in an amount of at least $100,000, authorizing the City Manager to execute an

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Intergovernmental Agreement and related documents, and declaring an emergency. 
(Development Services Department) 
 
Vice Mayor Davis moved to adopt Resolution No. 2633; the motion was seconded 
by Council Member Erives. The motion carried 7 to 0. 
Mayor Rodriguez – Aye  
 
Vice Mayor Davis – Aye   
Council Member Chavira – Aye 
Council Member Erives – Aye  
Council Member Gámez – Aye 
Council Member Laborin – Aye 
Council Member Mendoza – Aye 
 
2. 
Adopt/Deny Resolution No. 2634 of the Mayor and Council of the City of Tolleson, 
Arizona, authorizing the sale of City Parcel No. 102-48-263, located at the northeast 
corner of 91st Avenue and Van Buren Street, to Schulte Real Estate Management 
Corp., and authorizing the Mayor, City Manager, City Clerk, and City Attorney to 
execute and deliver the Purchase Contract and all related documents necessary to 
complete the transaction. (Development Services Department) 
 
Council Member Gámez moved to adopt Resolution No. 2634; the motion was 
seconded by Council Member Davis. The motion carried 7 to 0. 
Mayor Rodriguez – Aye  
 
Vice Mayor Davis – Aye   
Council Member Chavira – Aye 
Council Member Erives – Aye  
Council Member Gámez – Aye 
Council Member Laborin – Aye 
Council Member Mendoza – Aye 
K. 
WORK STUDY AND PRESENTATIONS – FOR DISCUSSION 
 
1. 
City-owned Properties Update – Jason Earp, Development Services Director 
L. 
MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER’S REPORT OF CURRENT EVENTS – FOR DISCUSSION 
 
1. 
Community Events Update – Randy Babchuk, Field Operations/Parks & Recreation 
Director 
M. CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION 
 
1. 
Motion to go into executive session. 
 
Council Member Gámez moved to convene into executive session at 8:20 PM; the 
motion was seconded by Vice Mayor Davis. The motion carried 7 to 0. 
Mayor Rodriguez – Aye

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Vice Mayor Davis – Aye   
Council Member Chavira – Aye 
Council Member Erives – Aye  
Council Member Gámez – Aye 
Council Member Laborin – Aye 
Council Member Mendoza – Aye 
 
2. 
Convene into an executive session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03(A)(3) to receive legal 
advice and discuss and consult with the City Attorney regarding parameters of federal 
and state authority regarding immigration activities. 
N. RECONVENE INTO PUBLIC MEETING 
O. ADJOURNMENT 
 
Council Member Laborin moved to adjourn the Regular City Council Meeting at 9:05 PM; 
the motion was seconded by Council Member Mendoza. The motion carried 7 to 0. 
Mayor Rodriguez – Aye  
 
Vice Mayor Davis – Aye   
Council Member Chavira – Aye 
Council Member Erives – Aye  
Council Member Gámez – Aye 
Council Member Laborin – Aye 
Council Member Mendoza – Aye 
  
Pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.01 and A.R.S. § 38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of 
the Tolleson City Council and to the general public that the Council of the City of Tolleson will 
hold a meeting open to the public. Council Members of the City of Tolleson will attend by 
telephone/video conference call.  
 
Note: The City Council of the City of Tolleson, by a duly passed motion, may vote in public session 
to adjourn to executive session on any agenda item in conformation with A.R.S. § 38.431.03 for 
legal advice from the City Attorney.  
 
Zoom’s live transcription feature can provide automatic captioning by clicking on the Closed 
Caption (CC) button during the meeting.  
 
THE CITY OF TOLLESON ENDEAVORS TO MAKE ALL PUBLIC MEETINGS ACCESSIBLE TO 
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES. With at least two business days advance notice, 
accommodations can be provided at this meeting for individuals with vision, hearing and/or 
speech disabilities, including a transcriber, large print, an interpreter, an assistive listening 
device, etc. Please call the City Clerk at (623) 936-7111, or TTY users may dial 711 for Arizona 
Relay Service (AZRS), to request an accommodation to participate in this public meeting. The 
City will try its best to accommodate any last minute requests.

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LA CIUDAD DE TOLLESON SE ESFUERZA PARA HACER TODAS LAS REUNIONES PÚBLICAS 
ACCESIBLE PARA INDIVIDUOS CON DISCAPACIDADES. Con al menos dos días laborables de previo 
aviso, se pueden proporcionar adaptaciones en esta reunión para personas con discapacidades 
visuales, auditivas o del habla, incluido un transcriptor, letra grande, un intérprete, un 
dispositivo de asistencia auditiva, etc. Llame a la Secretaría Municipal al (623) 936-7111, o los 
usuarios de TTY pueden marcar 711 para el Servicio de Retransmisión de Arizona (AZRS), para 
solicitar un alojamiento para participar en esta reunión pública. La Ciudad hará todo lo posible 
para satisfacer cualquier solicitud de último minuto.

CHECK NUMBER
CHECK DATE
VENDOR NAME
AMOUNT
102000
2/11/2026
VANGUARD TRUCK CENTERS LLC
$14,215.28
186805
2/5/2026
ASR CONSTRUCTION GROUP LLC
$20,824.06
186811
2/5/2026
TOLLESON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DIST.#17
$12,350.00
186826
2/5/2026
HILL BROTHERS CHEMICAL COMPANY
$16,743.23
186836
2/5/2026
MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE
$38,576.09
186861
2/12/2026
ALEX AREVALO
$64,875.00
186875
2/12/2026
NORWOOD EQUIPMENT LLC
$12,569.27
186892
2/12/2026
WACO LLC
$37,771.31
186889
2/12/2026
VERIZON WIRELESS SERVICES LLC
$11,540.66
186858
2/5/2026
WASTE CONNECTIONS OF ARIZONA
$20,103.54
City of Tolleson
Checks Recorded
Check Dates: February 4, 2026 to February 17, 2026
PAYMENTS OVER $10,000

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MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Good morning --  good morning.    Good evening, everyone. Been 
a long day.  I am  Mayor Juan F. Rodriguez.  Today is February 24th, and I would like to 
call the City of Tolleson Council meeting to order.  We're going to begin with our 
invocation and Pledge of Allegiance.  So Development Services Director Jason Earp, will 
you please provide the invocation, and Councilmember Chavira, will you please lead us 
in the Pledge of Allegiance?  
EARP:  Heavenly Father, we come before you today with grateful hearts as we begin this 
City Council meeting.  We ask for your wisdom and discernment to make decisions in 
accordance to Your will.  Bless our city, our residents and our public safety personnel.  
Protect them as they serve and return them safely home to their families.  In Jesus' 
name we pray.  
ALL:   Amen.   
CHAVIRA:  We pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 
Republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice 
for all.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All right.  Thank you both.  Next, City Clerk, please let the record 
reflect on a roll call that all council members are present at today's meeting.  We're 
going to move on to final call to submit speaker request forms.  All speakers will be 
limited to three minutes for comments only.  Actions taken as a result of public 
comments will be limited to one, responding to criticism; two, directing staff to review 
the matter; or three, asking that the matter be put on a future agenda item.  Ms. Clerk, 
do we have any speaker requests at this time? 
ZAMORA:  We do not have any,  Mayor.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All right.  (indiscernible) calls to the public.  And City Clerk, do we 
have any of those?   
ZAMORA:  No, we do not.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All right.  And then we'll ask if anyone appears for proclamations 
for discussion, and the first item on our agenda is introductions of new employee.  So 
I'm going to turn the floor over to our city manager, Reyes Medrano.

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MEDRANO:  Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of Council.  Good evening, everyone.  It's 
great to have our first responders here., of course, as always and our friends from our 
elementary school.  This is one of the best parts of my job is I get to welcome people 
who've chosen to serve this community because we take nothing more seriously than 
our service to our community.   
So first we have from the Maryvale Village of the City of Phoenix, Battalion Chief Will 
Burner, graduate of Trevor Browne High School, went to high school with a bunch of my 
cousins.  And obviously, he's with the Tolleson Fire Department.  And you've been a joy 
to work with so far, sir.  Been fun.   
Next, I'm equally as excited to introduce a former member of the -- I don't know if they 
were state champions, but they were close.  Tolleson women's soccer, Wolverine soccer 
team.  Jackie -- Jacqueline Ochoa.  She's with -- she's in public affairs, and she's doing an 
incredible job.  Believe it or not, got our federal allocations organized.  We're still in 
shock by that because that's a tall task.  
MENDOZA:  A Wolverine.   
MEDRANO:  Yes, Wolverine, definitely.  Excuse me.  And our utilities department, 
Alexandra, or Alejandra, Meadows, Wastewater Operator, and Paul Vega Soto 
wastewater operator.  And hopefully, they're on Zoom.  And then, I'm very excited to 
announce the promotion to fire captain in the Tolleson Fire Department of Sean Lucas, 
who's with us tonight.  Where is he?  There he is.  Congratulations, Sean.   
Well, well deserved.  And to all our new teammates, thank you so much for choosing 
Tolleson.  And I haven't had a chance to meet with all of you yet, in person, but I look 
forward to it, because we assure your happiness here because we know that happiness 
breeds success, not the other way around.  And that's why we chose you.  You were 
chosen.  Your happiness was apparent to everyone in the room the day you interviewed.  
That's why you're here.  And we're excited to have you.  Thank you.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Well, it's tradition at these meetings, we have new employees, 
here in Tolleson, we consider ourselves a family.  And so I want to welcome all of you 
guys to the Tolleson family.  Our city management and our Council does a really good

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job -- or at least we attempt to do our best job, take care of family, as you probably do 
as well to yours.  So (foreign language spoken).  Just so you know, sir, we do have a 
councilmember that also went to Trevor Browne.  So you're not alone in the room.  You 
guys bolstered the worst colors in the State of Arizona.  
DAVIS:  Orange are terrible colors.  They are terrible.  
[LAUGHTER] 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  We will stick to our maroon and gold.  But welcome to the 
organization.    
[LAUGHTER] 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  And then so that's -- are we have any other introductions of new 
employees? 
MEDRANO:  That's it. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Awesome.  All right.  Grab the new people?  Come on up, new 
people.  And promotions too.  Come on. 
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER 1:   At an angle, okay?  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I'm going to hold my (indiscernible) in. 
[LAUGHTER] 
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER 1:  Okay, ready?  One, two, three, and four.  Congratulations.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Congrats, man.  
MENDOZA:  Congratulations.   
GAMEZ: Congratulations. 
LANE:  Thank you.   
LABORIN:  Congratulations 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Moving on to public appearances., item number two of the 
Tolleson Elementary School District funding support report.  We have the Honorable 
Superintendent Herrera.  You have the floor, Ms. Herrera.  Superintendent.  
HERRERA:  No, we have a presentation there as well.  Good evening, Mayor Rodriguez.  
City Council, city staff, and community members.  It is my pleasure to stand here in front 
of you and share some of the highlights of our latest IGA.  There's many agreements

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that we've had across the years.   
My name is Gisselle Herrera, and I am the proud Superintendent of the Tolleson 
Elementary School District.  And I have been in Tolleson as a humble servant of the 
community for almost 19 years.   
Alongside myself, I have Megan Duplain, and she is joining me as we're going to be 
sharing some highlights.  She oversees the preschool programing, which we're going to 
be highlighting this evening, alongside all special programs.  So with that, we'll go ahead 
and get started.  At the end, we'll take questions, but of course we'll take questions at 
any point as well.   
There we go.  That one.  The big one.  The big button.  So of course, our district has a 
mission and vision.  And as you can see there on the screen, it really orients the 
community to what it is that we value.  And we value excellence, and we value 
innovation, thinking outside the box.  And one thing that we know is that world-class 
education systems have the support of their local government.  That's just how it is.  
And that's what we aim at being, a world-class education system that we believe every 
one of our children deserve.  We call them treasures in our district, and we have almost 
3,000 of them district wide.  Two of the schools, of course, reside here in the City of 
Tolleson, and we're always looking at ways to enhance their experience while they're 
with us.   
Now, while they're with us, officially, kinder through 8th grade, our efforts have always 
been consistent around bringing preschool experiences to our youngest treasures.  We 
know that a preschool experience can make the world of difference for any child.  And 
our common interest, of course, is the community and the children that we serve.  And 
along with our mission and our vision, we also have our priority goals.  Those are the 
ones that you see there.  We refine them year to year.  As I think, specifically, of our IGA 
this year, two that stand out is, number one and number two.  First is just making sure 
that they're prepared for whatever their next step might be.  That's all the instruction 
that we provide, again, officially in kinder.  But we want preschool for everyone.   
If it was possible to give preschool experience for everyone, we know, that's what

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matters.  Ninety percent of brain development happens before the age of five.  We get 
them at five, officially in kinder.  But we know that there's so much work that we can do 
together, right?  For preschool.   
And of course, number two is critical as well.  Alongside the academics, we focus on 
their well-being; developmentally, emotionally, mentally and physically, of course.  And 
so we have an amazing team that does all the things that we need to do for 
preschoolers to ensure that our priority goals align.  And speaking of alignment, of 
course, we're always looking at partners who have our common interests at hand, and 
that's again, our children.   
I know for the City you have those -- those core values that also align to our goals, 
including the collaboration, the caring, the inspiration, right, the inclusion and the 
equity that the city really looks through in terms of the lens to provide services for the 
community.   
And so these are some of the nuts and bolts, if you would, specific to the funding.  The 
agreement is a 400,000 investment from the city to the school district.  How is this 
money spent?  You can see there we have award-winning preschool programs both at 
Arizona Desert and Porfirio H. Gonzalez schools.  And those are two Tolleson schools.  
And that's how the money breakdown looks like.  As you can see for Arizona Desert 
155,000, that includes one teacher, a certified teacher, and two paraprofessionals.   
And then the same would be for Porfirio H.  Gonzalez, which is slightly higher amount, 
that is dependent on the staff and the experience and the pay, of course, for each of 
those members.  And then, all the things that you see that make a preschool run the 
way that it needs to, along with the supplies, of course, the fees and the instructional 
materials, 20,000 for each school.  
And believe me, we try to make that dollar stretch.  That's the name of the game with 
anything in public ed, as you know.   
Along with that, the breakdown that you see for salaries and the supplies, you also see 
that the city was generous in continuing the support of our Tolleson afterschool 
programs in the morning.  So we have one currently, and it's been very successful for

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many years.  And that is 50 students, 50 treasures, that families have to go to work early 
in the morning.  That way the kids are not waiting outside or taking themselves to 
school alone.  They have a safe, engaging place before campus to get a snack, do a little 
bit of homework catch up perhaps, and get ready for the day.  And so we have that as 
well.  
And along with that, you'll see that we also have in that agreement, as part of that 
agreement, an amendment that was made just of recent because we realized that the 
Tolleson afterschool program, which is also part of this agreement, and is now housed 
instead of Parks and Rec, it is now housed at Arizona Desert and Porfirio H. Gonzalez.  
We have a special treasure that needed additional support, with special needs.  And so 
you'll see that expenditure there as well.  And that is to ensure that that student, again, 
through that list of inclusion and equity, experiences success in the Tolleson afterschool 
program.   
So the impact of course, it's always going to be that children are ready to succeed, 
whether it's going to be before school, whether it happens to be in the preschool setting 
and beyond.  It is our focus that we are always doing our very best to bring those 
educational experiences to every one of our kiddos.   
And then, I'll have Ms. Duplain share some more highlights about the preschool 
program specifically.  
DUPLAIN:  Hello.  I'm the proud administrator of preschool and special programs at 
Tolleson Elementary School District.  My name is Megan Duplain.  I stand here today 
with extreme gratitude for the partnership and the continued investment that the City 
has had in our Preschool Excellence programs.   
If you walk into our program, you'll see a little snapshot in a video.  You will see from the 
second you walk in the door, children who feel safe, connected, a sense of belonging, 
staff that are there to inspire our children and our treasures, and help them grow as 
much as they can before sending them to kindergarten.   
So within this intergovernmental agreement, we are able to maintain low adult-to- 
student ratios.  We were able to continue high-quality staff development.  So our

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treasure hunters continue to grow in their skills.  Even though, you know, we are all five 
stars in our preschool, and our staff have been there -- our -- the retention rate in our 
preschool programs is almost 100 percent.  So they've been growing every year.  But 
every year we bring people in from Quality First and ADE, and different organizations to 
teach us and help us grow so that we're ready and prepared to meet the needs of all of 
our children and inspire them to be their very best.   
We are replacing instructional equipment as it gets outdated, to ensure we have quality 
supplies and supports for our children.  And we sustain a high-quality curriculum.  We 
use Frog Street, which is an evidence-based curriculum, and we bring in trainers to 
support us in that along the way.  And it is -- and it continues to ensure the access for 
Tolleson families to this high-quality preschool that is evidence-based and truly the 
foundation that our children need to jump off into kindergarten ready .   
Our children, and you will hear from our kinder teachers, they can tell who goes through 
our preschools and who doesn't, by the way they walk in and hold themselves the first 
week of school.  And it's like -- it says right up there, and this is -- this is evidence, this -- 
this investment changes life trajectories for children, and I wholeheartedly believe that.  
Oh, and this is our preschool program budget.  As Superintendent Herrera presented, 
the part of the IGA, 200,000 for the Arizona Desert Elementary School, preschool, and 
200,000 for the Porfirio H. Gonzalez preschool program.  Oh, and this is -- 
HERRERA:  Now we have a video.   
DUPLAIN:  Yeah.  It does have some -- 
HERRERA:  It has some.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER 2:  Yeah.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER 3:  It says -- 
DUPLAIN:  Acknowledging.  Yeah.  
HERRERA:  Okay.   
DUPLAIN:  Yes.  
HERRERA:  That's right.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER 4:  You can also share out the presentation to the

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Councilmembers.  
HERRERA:  Thank you. 
DUPLAIN:  Perfect.   
HERRERA:  Thank you.   
DUPLAIN:  As you saw in that video, we had treasures exploring worms at Porfirio H. 
Gonzalez.  They loved it.  And the little one -- I happened to be in the room when this 
was happening, and he said, he really likes me.  Do you see?  He's listening to me.  And 
the teacher sent a picture of him reading to his worm.   
[LAUGHTER] 
DUPLAIN: And we saw  at  Arizona Desert, they made -- they had them create art, and 
they created easels on the chair of their -- and they flipped their painting papers on the 
back of the chair.  And the kids felt like they were Van Gogh, and artists, and they were 
just so proud to present their artwork, you know?  And then you see the dress up that 
we -- that one of the children was in a fireman outfit.  We inspire our children to 
practice and grow and explore and, just -- we  -- they know that they can be anything, 
and you should hear them from day-to-day.  They're like, I'm going to be a fireman this 
week.  No, now I'm going to be a doctor.  Let me show you, because we have all this 
developmentally appropriate play equipment for them to practice.   
And they put the doctor suit on, and they put the veterinarian suit on.  And so it's just a 
beautiful program to inspire our children and let them know you can be anything you 
want to be.  And it's just an incredible foundation.  So thank you.  Thank you for -- for 
this investment.   
And I know Mayor Rodriguez talked about it when we did the presentation at Porfirio H. 
Gonzalez.  You said it's not a donation, it's an investment, and it is an investment.  It's an 
investment in our children, in our community.  And it's -- I don't think there's any more 
of an investment or a better investment.  I'm kind of biased, but.  
HERRERA:  A little, a little.  Just a little bit.  Thank you so much, Ms. Duplain.  And of 
course, I would be remiss if I did not also highlight other parts of that agreement.  And 
one of those is the shared community spaces.  As you see and they're listed there, top of

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mind comes the Field of Dreams, the beautiful space that we now have, not only for our 
kiddos, which we've had for the District, right, for quite a few years, but now is shared 
with the community as well.   
We had a job fair, actually, at Arizona Desert this Saturday, and as we were leaving the 
job fair, we saw the community using the Field of Dreams, and we hadn't seen that in 
many years.  And so it was really nice to see.  And it's a beautiful space.  I know that you 
know that.   
School gymnasiums as well is -- are -- is part of that agreement.  And, as you know, 
there's a lot of interest in having safe spaces that are well-maintained so that children 
can go ahead and extend their learning and talents, however, it might be, through the 
lens of sports.  And then parking lot for the community events that are held right in 
front of the District office, of course, that is part of the agreement as well as a joint 
usage, because, again, we have the common interest, and that is the community.   
As a result, we have safe spaces for youth, but not only for youth, also for the rest of the 
community in a way that makes sense to both the City and the District through the lens 
of efficiency.  We have the spaces, you have the folks.  We can make something work, 
right?   
As well as the joint usage, we also have the T.A.S.K. program, which again, we've had in 
past through a different IGA.  The way that it's been modified now it is on site and it is 
ran out by city staff, who of course are experts at doing just that, running afterschool, 
extended programing through the lens of T.A.S.K.  And we have one at Arizona Desert 
and one, of course, at Porfirio H. Gonzalez.  And I'll tell you what, it is such a game- 
changer for the children, but for the families, because families are working families, and 
the children are young, and having them walk to an empty home is not optimal, as you 
know.  
And while, we have 21st programing and grants that we bring in, those sometimes are 
spotty in terms of the grade levels and what it is that they're teaching, because it has to 
be very academic in nature.  This is very much recreational.  It fits every need, and it's 
extended in terms of the hours.  So I know that the families really appreciate it, and it

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makes a difference in their life knowing that as they're coming home, their kids are in a 
safe, engaging space.  Which is nice is -- what's also nice is that it is truly an extension of 
the day because the -- the students are in the -- a familiar space.  They're in school, but 
they also have familiar routines and familiar rules, if you would, and our RISE initiative 
to ensure that behavior is consistent throughout the day and beyond.   
Again, like Ms. Duplain, say a big thank you to City Council, to the community for this 
continued partnership.  Together, we're here for the children.  Our common interest is 
the community.  And again, we'll take any questions that you might have.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Other way around.  This agreement has been, I think, a very 
powerful tool.  I want to thank you personally for working with our staff to make this 
agreement come from a piece of paper to fruition and, as evidenced by all the pictures, 
you know, the end winners are our kids.   
And you're right, they -- we co -- there are co beneficiaries.  You know, when they're in 
the school they benefit from their academic opportunities.  When they're in the 
afterschool program or out in the community, you know, we take we take charge in a 
sense.  And -- and ultimately they're better off for it.  We build a better community 
together.  And so thank you for that.  And also thank you for the presentation.  
I think one of the criticisms that I've heard over the years from, from the Council is, 
okay, so we gave them this much money, but what do -- how do we know what he did 
with it?  And you have a slide that literally breaks down how much goes into staffing, 
how much goes into the different supplies that are needed for the programs, and then 
how much goes to fund somebody that can help a kid with special needs that needs 
more one-on-one attention.   
And that's critical because at the end of the day, as public organizations, you know, how 
you spend your money has to be justified.  So that one slide right there is very powerful.  
And I thank you for -- for actually doing that.   
There's some more comments, but let me open it up to Council.  Council?  Okay.  So 
let's -- I saw -- Linda, you go first.  
LABORIN:  Well, how many students do you have in the gifted program?  Would you be

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able to tell me off the top of your head?  In the gifted program.   
HERRERA:  Gifted program?  Not preschool program?    
LABORIN:  No, no, in the  --  
HERRERA:  In  this the preschool program?    
LABORIN:  Let me try that again. 
DUPLAIN: We have 18 children in all of our classes.   
LABORIN:  Okay.  And do you have any planned activities that none of the other kids are 
doing?  
DUPLAIN:  So our preschool programs function solely on their own.  So outside of the 
school, they are involved in the school community, of course, but they do a lot of 
different preschool things with their parents.  They have  -- they -- they actually have 
their parent-teacher nights as well, but they have different holiday events and different 
classes and different things with our parents.    
LABORIN:  Okay.  What about the kids that don't celebrate Christmas, Thanksgiving, and 
stuff like that?  What do you teach them about those holidays?  
DUPLAIN:  They learn about all holidays, regardless of religion.  And we -- and so they -- 
regardless of the -- we just -- we try to teach them a well-balanced approach to holidays, 
when it comes around.  And we also were driven by the early childhood standards that 
have been put out by Arizona Department of Education.  So that is what our curriculum 
is based on.  
LABORIN:  Okay.  Thank you.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Councilmember?  And then we'll come back to you, Christine. 
CHAVIRA:  Okay. 
GAMEZ:  I'm interested to see what the parents, what kind of feedback did they leave. 
Especially a preschool program.  I used to work for (indiscernible) now I work with 
elementary, years ago, education.   
HERRERA:  Yes. 
GAMEZ:   We used to call it home study.  The parents would -- the teachers would go 
into the homes, and give lessons, and the parents were watching, and listening and

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learning.  So I just -- I'm really asking,  how is it going with parents, how do they feel 
about it?  (indiscernible) but it's  --  it's --  it's important that they are involved.  And I 
just wanted some feedback in terms of  --  
DUPLAIN:  Yes. 
GAMEZ:  -- what they --  
DUPLAIN:  Our preschool team prioritize the partnership with their parents because 
they realize we have three-year-olds walking in the door to us.  We have to be partners 
with their parents.  We have to understand what their likes are, what their interests are, 
and making sure that parents feel very safe leaving, leaving them with us.  So we do 
different newsletters every week to communicate.  We do Fashion Dojo, which is a 
communication system where they get pictures every Friday of their children that -- our 
preschool teachers prioritize contacting every parent every two weeks to ensure that 
there's something specific about their child and their child's growth.  Our events that we 
have with our preschool parents fill -- fill always.  And we have, you know, we have 
received great feedback.  
GAMEZ:  Thank you.  
DUPLAIN:  No problem. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Councilwoman Chavira? 
CHAVIRA:  Is there a fee that the parents have to pay at all for this service?  It's not?  It is 
free to them?  That's great news.  Well, thank you.  Thank you for the presentation.  
Thank you for the wonderful information.  And then, of course, for the partnership  
because no one loses in this.  Everyone's a winner in this, and the community.  So we 
appreciate that.  Thank you.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Yes, ma'am.  
DAVIS:  I think it's no secret that I will always support preschool programing.  I taught 
preschool through 8th grade general music for a really, really long time.  And I will have 
to agree with you that it is night and day, the behavior of the kindergartner who went to 
preschool, and who didn't attend preschool.  So I can tell you're both on fire for  -- 
with -- with education and what you do.  So that's amazing, too.  Just  seeing that,

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knowing that the leaders in the school district are just on fire about education.  That's 
amazing.   
One question.  You said 18 students per class?  Or total?  Per class?  All right.  And this is 
kind of a curveball question.  So I'm not trying to throw you or anything, but about how 
many kids do you think live in the Tolleson elementary school district that are the age of 
preschool?  All together. 
DUPLAIN:  All together?  
HERRERA:  We'd have to come back with that.  Yeah.  
DAVIS:  Okay.  Like a ballpark.  It doesn't have to be an exact number.  What do you 
think?  
HERRERA:  Preschool kiddos live within the Tolleson boundaries.  We'd have to probably 
pull that -- 
DAVIS:  Yeah. 
DUPLAIN:  Yeah.  
HERRERA:  (Indiscernible) 
DAVIS:  Just -- just throw a number out there.  What do think?  
[LAUGHTER] 
HERRERA:  Well, I'll tell you.  I'll tell you something that I learned that in Arizona, only 
about 3.5 per 10 kiddos attend preschool.  
DUPLAIN: That's what --  
HERRERA:  So if we follow that trend, although I think because we do have, and have 
had, quality preschools, we're probably higher than that.  
DAVIS:   Well, that's great.  
HERRERA:  On average.  
DAVIS:  I guess my point was, there's so much more work that we need to do to find 
funding to make sure that every single one of our children gets this early childhood 
education.  You know?  It's so vital.  It is an investment in our community.  It's an 
investment in our future, and our future workforce.   
Do you know what the graduate graduation rate is for pre -- a kid who did preschool in

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comparison to one who didn't?  
HERRERA:  I don't as of yet.  But we're doing the work.   
DAVIS:  (Indiscernible) 
HERRERA:  No .  We're doing the work with a Helios Institute, which we now have access 
to data that allows us to track our students, I'm hoping, including our preschoolers, all 
the way beyond into high school and into college.  So we're really excited about doing 
that.  And we can certainly layer the preschool numbers, too, to see how that's faring 
out. 
DUPLAIN: I would agree with that.  
DAVIS:  -- throughout.  
HERRERA:  For many -- for many reasons.  You're correct.  And that is what the studies 
do share.  Uh-huh.   
DAVIS:  (Indiscernible)  
HERRERA:  Thank you.  
DAVIS:   -- as much as we can to make sure that our little treasures, that our -- littlest 
treasures, as you call them, get the education that they deserve and the foundation that 
they deserve.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Okay.   Thank you.   
Councilwoman? 
ERIVES:  Oh, the little one about the worm.  I'm excited about that, when he says he's 
listening.  Fantastic.  That's the inspiration that we want, right?  That little spark.  You 
mentioned, Vice Mayor, that the administrators, that flows into the classroom with 
those children.   
So I have a couple of questions.  When you had mentioned that there are two 
classrooms and each have 18 -- is that a full- day program?  Are we talking full day for 
preschool?   
DUPLAIN:  Full day.     
ERIVES:  Full day.  So they start at  8:00 to 3:00?   
DUPLAIN:  (Indiscernible)

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ERIVES:  Oh, wow.  So they're really getting a good chunk of time there.   
DUPLAIN:  There is some down time.  
ERIVES:  Of course.  We all need that.  We all need that.   
DUPLAIN:  Exactly. 
ERIVES:  A second question.  So if I, hypothetically, right, I'm a parent.  My child is about 
preschool age.  I'm a Tolleson resident.  How do I apply?  Is there like a list?  Is there a 
application process?   
DUPLAIN:  Yes --  
ERIVES:  Is there a screening that happens?  Is there a waiting list that I need to know 
about?  
DUPLAIN:  So currently there is a waiting list, but you go on our website and fill out the 
interest form.  
ERIVES:  Okay.  
DUPLAIN:   And then that gets us to our welcome center, and then my admin assistant, 
Berenice Soto, and then they're called off there.  They do a process that they go through 
collecting different paperwork and that to make sure they qualify financially.  
ERIVES:    Okay.   
DUPLAIN:  And so that -- there's a few steps to it.   
ERIVES:  Okay.   
DUPLAIN:  And then they come in.  First priority is our -- as always, is our Tolleson 
families. 
ERIVES:  Thank you.   
DUPLAIN:  And that is the (indiscernible). 
ERIVES:  Thank you, thank you, thank you.  So if there's a waiting list, this program needs 
to grow and expand.  Nice, nice.  
HERRERA:  A lot of advocacy that happens every year like clockwork from, definitely Ms. 
Duplain, myself, and the team, to find every dollar under every rock to support and 
advocate for preschool.  But knowing what we know about public get even currently, 
right, it's tough coming from  the State.  It's -- we don't see it happening.  So different

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grants are written throughout the years, and they come and they go.  And so we are 
looking year-to-year to be quite honest in terms of programing.  
ERIVES:  Look under that rock, maybe find another worm for the little one.  Right, right? 
[LAUGHTER] 
ERIVES:  Thank you ladies for the presentation.  Like Mayor had mentioned, that is so 
helpful because then when we have answers for our constituents, when they have a 
question.  Oh, something about the preschool, we have something, some information to 
share.  Thank you.  Thank you.  
DAVIS:  We're a city of industry, and there's like, 35 Fortune 500 companies here.  Have 
any of them ever funded preschool before?  
HERRERA:  Not that I know of.  Not as of yet.  We're hoping that at some point we can 
loop them in a little bit closer.   
DUPLAIN:  Uh-huh.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I meant to ask, to say that, going back to the investment example, 
I think that is amazing.  I saw the smile and bright futures.  As a quasi, by default, part-
time teacher, I get to -- my wife works at P.H., so I get to hear the stories of the kids 
every day.  And you know, the really nice stories, or really good stories.  We have 
amazing kids.  And amazing kids become better because of the investments that we put 
into them.  So I want to thank you guys as a school district for being an amazing partner.  
All the commitment from your staff members day in and day out that make the reality 
for our kids that much bigger and brighter.  
And I just want to let Council know that the superintendent did invite us for a tour,  I 
believe it's March 4th.  Midar (ph.)'s not here.  He was the one that we're coordinating 
with.  But March 4th at 9 a.m. at P.H.  Gonzalez.  If any Council member would like to go 
and attend and actually get a tour of the program itself, March 4th at 9 a.m. , we'll be 
there and no breakfast.  So if you want your breakfast burrito --  
[LAUGHTER]  
HERRERA:  We will have some nice -- some nice treats.   
DUPLAIN:  Awesome.

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HERRERA:  Thank you.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  But yeah, I definitely plan to be there, and I look forward to 
visiting P.H.  Gonzalez on the 4th at 9  a.m. and getting to say hi to the kids and 
celebrating this partnership.  And thanks for coming in.  All right.  Thank you.   
All right.  We're going to rock and roll through some of this.  Business for the floor, we 
don't have any.  H is our Consent Agenda.  I see a total of five items on the consent 
agenda for action.  
GAMEZ:  Motion to exclude them. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:   We have a motion to exclude by Councilmember Gamez.   
LABORIN:  Second. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  We have a second by Councilmember Laborin.  All those in 
flavor -- in favor, please signify by saying aye.   
ALL:  Aye.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All those opposed?  Not hearing any.  Madam Clerk, motion 
passes unanimously.  We're going to move on to Work Study and presentations for 
discussion.  Item number one is Housing Study Update.  We got revitalization manager 
Shows?  
GAMEZ:  Schaus 
Noel?  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ: What is it?  
GAMEZ: Schaus. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Shaus, yes   You have the floor, ma'am.  Better known as Noel.  
SCHAUS:  Thank you, Mayor.  Thank you, Vice Mayor and Councilmembers.  I'm pleased 
to be here this evening to share with you some information that we have to share about 
a housing study that was conducted over the last year.  Gave us some really important 
information with specifics for Tolleson.  Housing has obviously come into everybody's 
awareness, and the affordability issues for housing nationwide.  But this gives us a little 
bit more specific data for our community.   
This was funded, I just want to mention by MAG.  They had a grant that allowed us, and

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several other communities, to have that housing needs assessment done and an action 
plan prepared.   
It was developed through Matrix Design Group, and they started working with our staff 
last year, around this time in February.  And they finished it back in December.  So 
pleased to share this with you.   
Why this study matters.  We wanted to be able to provide some really -- some good 
data to identify affordability gaps for the community, what people are able to pay 
versus what the costs for housing are.  We wanted to evaluate what our housing supply 
is and what's needed, now and in the future, to guide policy decisions to ensure 
affordable housing for all people, for include -- to include everybody in the community.   
Key findings.  These may not be super-revelatory, but we can go into more specifics.  But 
as we know, housing costs have been rising faster than incomes.  Renters, especially, 
face severe cost burdens.  And we'll talk -- I'll talk quite a bit about this because I think 
this was probably the most -- not surprising, but the -- the level of need and the burden 
was much greater than I had even anticipated when I was reading the data.   
As we know, the senior population is growing and is particularly vulnerable.  I think we 
see that every day.  I do, working right next to the senior center.  And we know that 
there's a housing supply shortage, but it's especially acute for lower income households.   
For Tolleson, some key demographics.  As of 2022 -- so the data -- and I'm referring back 
to 2022.  All of this data was gathered to be comparative.  So it's pulling from data 
sources and sources basically that look at a -- at a range of dates from 2017 to 2022.  So 
some of this is a little dated.  Obviously a lot has happened in the last few years, but 
these are trends.  So and as of 2022, population was about 7,200, largely Latino 
community, almost a fifth or a little bit more than a fifth of our residents are 65 or older.   
A median household income of 47,875, at that time, even, was quite low for even the 
county and the state.  And an 18.9-percent poverty rate, also a little bit higher than the 
County and the State.  Just to put some demographic context.  
Looking at the housing stock, there were 27 -- about 2,700 total housing units, the 
majority being single-family detached homes, 34 percent multifamily units, apartments,

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and with some limited duplexes, townhomes.  Actually townhomes.  I think our first 
townhomes are officially being built, like right now.  Right there on the corner of 99th 
and Van Buren.   
We do have maybe a few ADUs coming along.  We know that we have some housing 
and mobile homes, but there's not a lot of other middle -- what we call missing middle 
housing.  And there are -- what the study found is there's really not sufficient affordable 
options for the variety of income ranges that we have.   
The rental market challenge.  Back then, the median rent here in Tolleson was about 
$1,100.  I'm thinking now, the kind of rents that we see, the rental requests are much 
higher than that.  We see 1,800, $2,000 for market rate right now.  And so that rent has 
gone up.  But just for comparison purposes, at that time, the median renter income was 
only 27,000, whereas the income needed to afford rent was 44 -- almost 45,000.  That's 
a very big gap.  And that that's where you're going to start seeing overcrowding with 
people moving in together to afford.  You're going to see some people slide into 
homelessness if they miss rents.   
What was interesting at that time, as well, 2017 to 2022, is renter income actually 
dropped while rents increased by 30 percent.  That's not sustainable.  Here's just kind of 
a little visual of the rental affordability gap.   
The rental cost burden.  I mentioned that this was kind of -- these were kind of the 
numbers that surprised me a little bit.  We think of cost burden as when we spend more 
than 30 percent of our gross income on housing, 68 percent of renters are cost burden, 
93 percent of seniors are cost burdened.  42 percent of people are severely cost 
burdened, which means they spend more than 50 percent of their gross income on rent.  
Anybody under -- or renters under $50,000 in income are cost burdened.   
So I mean, I think -- we see this every day.  It's like I said, it's still kind of shocked me.  
And the severe rent burden is much more pronounced in Tolleson.   
And I can think of seniors that I talk to quite often that this is something that keeps 
them from thriving, really.  And it's just -- it's hard to see.  
For homeownership, we also know that there's a large challenge with affordable

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homeownership.  Not only have costs arise -- been rising for housing, but our incomes 
aren't keeping up.  Interest rates are obviously causing -- are a piece of that.  But the 
income needed to afford a median home back in 2023 was $91,000.  Again, the median 
household income here was a little bit more than half that.  The result of that, really, is 
that first-time home buyers are locked out.  So it's a challenge for our younger families 
and folks that are wanting to get from rental into homeownership.  28 percent of 
homeowners are cost burdened.   
So it really -- it really is that they face a fight, a greater financial strain.  Going forward, 
it's something that, if we want our community to grow and have families, as well as 
seniors thrive here, it's something to think about what kind of policies and things we 
can -- we can do to help create more affordable housing.   
Housing units needed.  They, through a variety of calculations, came up with 417 units 
was the shortage at that time as of 2022.  249 rentals, 168 ownership units.  The 
strongest demand, again, among low-income households that 83 percent of the units 
must be affordable at 80 percent or less, AMI.  Which means that we're -- we need 
attainable housing for folks that are the ones that have fewer resources.  Market rate 
housing right now is just not attainable for most of the people in the community.   
The numbers at the bottom of the screen, I just kind of was putting that up here for -- I 
guess just to give you an idea.  Currently for a two-person household earning $72,000 a 
year to be affordable, their housing costs should not exceed about $1,800 a month.  
Again, we're finding that most rents are 18 to 2,000.  And then for someone at 50 
percent of AMI, $45,000 a year for two people -- they I don't even know -- there are 
there are units out there for 1,125 a month, but they're few and far between.  There's 
waitlists for them.  There's just not enough of that at that price point.   
So just to reiterate primary areas of need.  Affordable rentals.   
Workforce housing.  Workforce housing is typically thought of as like, hey, what would 
our nurses, or police officers, or educators be able to afford, like the 60 percent, 100 
percent, 120 percent of AMI.  Senior housing is a is an area of need, and I know that's 
definitely an interest that you have as a priority for the council this year.

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Smaller units, interestingly, a lot of the units that have been developed in the last 
several years are larger, like three, three-bedroom units.  But what the study found is 
that we have a lot more households that could really use one- and two-bedroom units.  
And then, first-time buyer options, obviously -- I mean, there are different first-time 
buyer programs out there that we refer people to when they come to us.  But it would 
be great to sort of layer -- layer those kinds of funding options, especially for people that 
don't typically qualify for the subsidies, like for 80 percent and below.  So we need to be 
able to expand some of those programs.  
Some key strategic principles that the study recommends is to focus on production of 
housing for folks at -- or below 80 percent of AMI.  That's where 83 percent of the 
demand lies.  Address the severe rent burden first, because 42 percent of renters are 
spending more than half their income on rent.  Target seniors and smaller households, 
because that's where the demographics really show the needs are.  Increase supply 
while reducing costs, because production and regulatory reform must occur together.  
Use local leverage to attract outside capital.  Tolleson can't solve this alone without 
state and federal resources.   
So some targeted strategies that I'll talk about briefly.  And I would love to share this 
with you if you're interested.  It is a 94-page report.  So this is very brief and very high- 
level, but the targeted strategies I'll just kind of talk about tonight include establishing a 
workforce housing trust fund is a suggestion, would be a local, flexible funding tool that 
would allow the City to support affordable rental development, first-time homebuyer 
assistance.  It could do gap financing for tax credit projects and help preserve affordable 
units.  So for instance, it could augment what we already do with CDBG funds to repair 
homes for the low -- for lower income homeowners.   
Why would the -- this kind of trust fund would matter.  Would provide local leverage to 
attract low-income housing tax credit projects, and state and federal investment.  The 
private market alone, again, will not produce affordable units.   
Expand mixed -- missing middle housing.  I think the council has already taken some 
steps to allow ADUs.  Maybe consider expanding that possibility.  Permitting duplexes

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and triplexes in appropriate zones.  Reducing lot size minimums.  Maybe offer pre-
approved ADU designs.  That would just support seniors aging in place.  Expanding 
naturally affordable units, and provide smaller units that are needed.  Reduce 
development barriers.   
I think the city actually has quite a few waivers and deferring of -- of fees for affordable 
housing, but maybe we look at that, see if there are other things we could do.  Maybe 
reduce parking requirements in certain developments, or certain types of 
developments.  Offer density bonuses.  These impact by lowering construction costs and 
improving feasibility.   
Senior Housing and Aging in place.  Strategy 4, offer fee relief for senior housing.  
Encourage ADUs, maybe for caregiver housing.  Very hard, obviously, to afford having 
someone cared for in another facility.  Continue to expand the home modification 
program, and pursue HUD funding for Section 202 and 811, which is basically support 
services for seniors and folks with disabilities and housing.   
Impact for this.  Without senior housing expansion, we could see more overcrowding, 
less housing stability, and more homelessness, to be honest.  Partnerships and funding.  
We want to collaborate, if possible, with nonprofit housing providers.  We currently do 
with FSL Home improvements, for instance.  There are several others that we could 
bring into the fold with mission driven private developers, regional and public agencies, 
with HUD, the Department of Housing, Maricopa County, and the Housing Authority.  
We would like to attract, if possible, low-income housing, housing tax credits, more 
CDBG funds, which we go after every couple of years.  And then, if we have a housing 
trust fund, we could leverage that money with these other dollars to match grants.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  (Indiscernible). 
SCHAUS:  Yeah.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:   We have  to put a certain amount of funds, we just have to 
match, or (indiscernible) or we can apply to other agencies to get (indiscernible) 
SCHAUS:  I think all of the above.  And I can bring some examples, and we can kind of 
look into that if that's something the Council is interested in exploring.

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MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  But honestly, the mechanics behind it are difficult to see how it 
impacts the end goal (indiscernible)  
SCHAUS:  Yeah, I'd be glad to -- to get some more information.  The study itself kind of 
provides some examples.  And so maybe I can talk to city management and put some 
information together for another meeting?  Okay.  Any other questions?  Okay.  Just 
final takeaways.  Tolleson's challenge is primarily affordability.  The rental burden is 
severe and widespread.  Seniors are uniquely vulnerable.  And barriers for rental is also 
homeownership are -- are growing.  But I think there are some things that the Council 
and City can do to maybe provide some solutions.  And I'm excited to share the study 
with you and maybe revisit down the road, especially with the Workforce Housing Trust 
Fund and any other ideas you might have 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:   I'll turn it over to Council now, if anybody has questions or 
comments or.  I have a couple things I can add.  A couple things that really jumped out 
at me, and I think ideas that I have -- we've explored in the past.  Obviously, senior 
housing is on the top of the Council's list.  I know I've heard it from multiple people. 
Senior living development that allows folks to stay, not only in town, but maybe get 
services while they're there.  So maybe assisted living units, and then not so assisted, 
like, you know, you can sustain yourself kind of units, because obviously people age 
into -- as they age, they need their -- their percentage of need increases, incrementally 
as they, as they lose mobility or suffer different medical conditions, that kind of stuff.   
I asked about the fund.  But also, I'm a big fan right now of condo because I read a study 
that the average buy in price right now, versus the income of a person, that puts the 
average American at about 40 years of age before they qualify for a mortgagee, to be 
able to buy their first home.   
40 is ridiculous.  I mean, look, I mean, that's  -- that -- to me, if you got to wait till you're 
40 to buy your first house, man, that's like the American dream is kind of skipping you 
by, you know.  I mean, the first 40 years of your life, you got to build up just to be able 
to get a mortgage, have a big enough down payment.  That's crazy.   
But one of the ideas that that I know we've been tossing around is the idea of building

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condos like they used to back in the day, but with individual ownership.  So maybe it's a 
one- or two-unit condo, and maybe it looks like apartments or something that is high 
density development.  But you can own it.  You can buy it.  And so somebody coming 
out of high school, going to work at one of the warehouses, for example, they would be 
able to afford something like that as a starter home.  Then, as they advance in their 
employment, and in their income, to the higher brackets, maybe they can qualify to get 
a rental unit then, or maybe purchase a home.   
My only fear with that is that a lot of folks tend to hold on to those units, and then turn 
them into an enterprise, and they want to rent them out.  And so now I got a source of 
income, which is fine.  But I think the focus for me is ownership.  I think that would be 
great.  And they don't have to wait till they're 40 to buy a condo versus a three- 
bedroom home.   
You have your hand up, or? 
GAMEZ:  I'm just stretching my fingers.  
[Laughter] 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  If there's any -- I'm going to turn it over.  I wrote something else 
down, but I -- my handwriting is really bad, so I got to  decipher my own handwriting. 
[LAUGHTER]  
DAVIS:  Welcome to the reality of my entire generation.  We cannot afford to buy 
homes.  That's just what it is.   
You mentioned ADUs.  What more could we do in that space?  
SCHAUS:  If I remember right, the AD -- are the ADUs available in certain parts of like 
certain parts of the zoning areas or something -- 
DAVIS:  I thought legislator had changed the rules on that.  Is that correct?  What -- 
what -- so how does that look?  What are people --  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER 5:  Mayor, members of the council, we've had several ADUs 
come before you.  We talked about maybe expanding the program, some of the issues 
that we can come back with  another study.  Both Noel and I can look at it.  It's just 
some of the areas of the city, the lots may not permit for that due to setbacks and that

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kind of thing.  It's usually the larger lots areas, but we'll look into it more to see if we can 
expand into the smaller lots.  It might be difficult, but we'll definitely look and see if we 
can do something there.  
DAVIS:  I mean, I'm very much in favor of that.  I mentioned that in the past.  I know that 
we were looking at it, and I know the legislature changed some rules, but let's definitely 
take a deep dive into that, because whatever we can do to help people in our 
community find affordable housing, I think we need to do.  Especially when the -- what 
was the percentage of seniors that are, you know, facing these issues?  That's absolutely 
outrageous.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Also, we have a lot of homes that have, I would say, probably lived 
the majority of their life, they're dilapidated, they're falling apart.  Some of them are 
abandoned.  And I know we've done a good job of buying some of those properties, 
especially the ones that have criminal elements that have moved in.  But I'm a big fan of 
kind of looking away from, from really building fees for those kinds of properties, 
because if we have a developer that's willing to come in, buy an old home, demolish it, 
and then build a brand-new unit that modernizes our current housing stock.   
So I really like the idea of whatever building permits we have if we can reduce the rates 
to a percentage, if they prove that what their intent is to basically build a new home on 
that property, I would be a big fan of that as well.   
And I know we do some of that already, but I think if we do more of that, it may 
encourage more private development from folks that want to flip one or two homes a 
year, or maybe 10.  It's up to them.  But they come into our community and they say, 
okay, this house was built in the 1930s, and you know, parts of it is still -- is adobe.  And 
the roof is collapsing and nobody -- so I'd like to buy it.   
And honestly, the other part of it too, is a lot of the nanas and tatas have moved away 
or passed away.  And so the great-grandkids own it, and they don't live here.  So it's a 
thought way in the back of their mind, you know, about that house that nana and tata 
lived in.  And so how do we make that house something modern that the new 
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a housing unit they can thrive in and build a family in.  So hold on.  Okay.  
Councilmember Chavira?  
CHAVIRA:   We have a number of properties, as we'll be talking about, some properties 
that the city already owns, and perhaps we can further our conversation on using some 
of the properties that we already own to maybe serve some of these needs.  And we can 
see where the zoning applies, and what things maybe we need to change, perhaps, for 
some of those properties if it can work.  So I mean, I think we have some options that 
we could perhaps already use.   
SCHAUS:  Yeah.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Vice Mayor?  
DAVIS:  I'll say there, out loud.  Maybe some retail on the bottom and housing on top.  
SCHAUS:  Yeah.  Sure. 
DAVIS:   Got to go up because we're landmarked.  
SCHAUS:  Sure.  
DAVIS:  What are we -- rent control.  That's my question.  Like what -- what are  -- what 
can I -- not  -- no?  He's shaking his head.  Absolutely not.  Not allowed?  
[LAUGHTER] 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  For the record, that's our City Attorney.  
[LAUGHTER] 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  But I like the idea of thinking out of the box.  I mean, I think it's 
critical.  Oh, I'm sorry.  Another hand. 
ERIVES:  I agree with what everyone is saying.  When we went to Utah this last National 
League of Cities, they had their conference up there.  We attended a mobile unit.  It's 
like a little workshop.  They take you in a little bus to a tiny village, and they had these 
tiny homes.  What I thought the presentation was going to be about was how to use this 
land.  Maybe some tiny homes for people to maybe start their first-time home 
ownership.  It was a little bit different than that, but it did get our ideas --  what we need 
to do and how we can do this started.  So I'm excited if we look outside the box like you 
had mentioned.  Maybe some properties that we have.  Maybe, I don't know, a

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veteran's village, so veterans could qualify.  Maybe Workforce like we had mentioned.  
So just different ways.   
Vice Mayor had mentioned that this generation is trying to find housing.  My daughter 
said the same thing.  She was getting ready to purchase a home.  Within the first seven 
minutes of the house being on the market, it was sold.  And she was like, well, I didn't 
even get a chance to look at the home because someone else, an investor, is purchasing 
the home, not to live there, right.  So then she didn't even get a chance to be part of the 
game, in essence, right.  So how do we allow -- how can we best help so that there are 
not investors coming in.   And I don't know if that's even legal for us to be involved, but 
I'm just saying we have to do something different than what we're doing.   
For our senior population, you had mentioned it was a fifth of our population that could 
be potentially find themselves without a home, right?  That's not okay either.  There's a 
lot of things that we need to do.  I'm glad we're having this conversation.  I think we 
need to have continued conversation on this.  Thank you, Ms. Schaus. 
SCHAUS:  Thank you.    
ERIVES:  Thank you.  The study's good.  I'd like to read it.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Yeah.  Talking about the National League of Cities.  Many, many 
moons ago, I attended a conference, and there was this idea, which I thought was --  I 
thought it was silly at first, but it kind of made sense.  Their municipality was -- their 
problem was that properties were too expensive.  It was a upper socioeconomic 
community.  And so the city was buying properties, and they had contracted a 
contractor to come in and build new homes.  But the person that qualified for it didn't 
have to worry about buying the property.  They just had to pay the cost of the home, 
and they had to sign up for financial management classes, and they had to sign a long- 
term mortgage for the home, for the actual structure.   
And then, after so many years, the City actually would give them the property.  And so 
that home, it made it easier for them to qualify for a mortgage, because instead of 
having to pay for the actual land, you're only paying for the structure, and the 
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And then after 15 years, they saw that their commitment to the community, and that 
financial management has kicked in, and they're able to save up more money, the City 
would be like, okay, you earned it.  And you're now a Tollesonian.  And so they get to 
keep the house.   
And of course, they would be able to pay off the mortgage that much faster because it's 
a smaller amount.  You only got to pay for the actual structure.  But I thought to myself, 
that's either a very dumb idea or that's genius.  One of the two.   
[LAUGHTER] 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  But we're the ones -- it's not really a policy issue.  It's a national 
issue.  
SCHAUS:  Right.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  And that's a problem.  Nationally, it's a big problem, but it's also 
an opportunity because this is what people like yourself, people that speak housing 
language,  that enjoy reading 94-page documents on housing, define best practice on 
H21, because everybody's trying to find a solution for the same problem.  
SCHAUS:  Yeah.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  And again, maybe working in Utah, or Washington State or New 
York, Florida, Newfoundland, they have a good example with what's  here.  So I do want 
to -- I do want to continue the conversation and exploration of opportunities, because I 
think if we all put our heads together, we can find the right solution.  And so I just want 
to thank you.  Great presentation, great information.  
SCHAUS:  Thank you, Mayor.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:   It's one of the things that we talked about because we have a 
house, right.  Or at least, I have a house.  And so unless you bring it to our attention, and 
continue to remind us that this is an issue in our community, we have to continue the 
connectivity and our commitment to that subject matter.  Housing is very important for 
our community, and you're the vocal reminder of why it's so significant.  So thank you 
for coming in front of us.   
Council,  any other questions?   Comments?  Yeah,  come on back.

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SCHAUS: We will. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All right moving on.  We're going to regular agenda action item.  
Item number one is to adopt or deny resolution number 2633 of the Mayor and City 
Council, the City of Tolleson, Arizona, approving financial support for the redevelopment 
of two current public housing properties within the City of Tolleson, approving a loan in 
the amount of $500,000 , at an interest rate of two to three percent, approving 
development related fees, waivers and in an amount of at least $100,000, authorizing 
the City manager to execute the intergovernmental agreement and related documents 
and declaring an emergency.  I'm going to turn it over to Jason Earp, our Development 
Services Department.  
EARP:  Thank you.  Mayor, vice mayor, members of the Council.  Perfect segue to this.  
We're excited about this project.  Gerald Minott will be presenting this, and solving 
some of our issues that Noel just discussed, hopefully, with their application that's due 
in April.  But I won't steal his thunder.  So go ahead, Gerald.  Thank you.  
MINOTT:  Greetings, Mayor, City Council.  Thank you for having me.  Thank you, Jason, 
for that wonderful introduction.  I'll try to be concise because I know we've had a lot of 
presentations.  My name is Gerald Minott, Executive Director for the Housing Authority 
of Maricopa County.  I have also on the call on the -- virtually, we have our housing 
development manager, Chanchal Singh.  So we just wanted to present a great 
opportunity to speak to some of the presentations that have already happened, 
specifically housing, but also it speaks to the earlier conversation about education.  So 
we want to speak to that.  
So Baden homes and Hollar apartments.  The housing authority is looking to redevelop 
this particular property.  And it would be beneficial for listening ears to hear this 
because it's I'm excited.  So just to talk a little bit about the Housing Authority, we're not 
just a housing authority that just sits around and pushes a whole lot of paperwork.  
We're also a developer.  We have jurisdiction over Maricopa County, with the exception 
of different cities that have their own housing authority.  City of Scottsdale, City of 
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But we're considered a high performer.  We have several housing options.  We have 
housing choice vouchers that we administer, about 1,800 of those throughout Maricopa 
County.  We also have multifamily housing development, and we also manage that.  So 
we're not a typical developer where we create the housing stock, and then we leave.  
We actually stay committed because we have a subsidy, and we have responsibilities on 
a federal and a state level to manage those properties.   
We have about 869 units that we manage.  Since 2016, the Housing Authority has 
developed 801 tax credit units, through either a tax credit application or a co-
partnership.   
Currently, we are developing redeveloping -- re-developing a property in Avondale.  
That's our largest property.  It's 120 units.  And so we're in the process of doing that 
right now.   
The Housing Authority has been, like I mentioned, a high performer.  We've been 
working with families, many of housing options, affordable housing options, well over 
80 years now.  So we have been in the market to develop properties like this.  So this is 
Madison Heights on the left.  It's in Avondale on Dysart.  It's 143 units.  That was one of 
our prized properties there.  Top right-hand corner of the River at Eastline Village.  It's in 
Tempe.  It's 56 units.  It is a -- that was a brand-new construction there.  And then at the 
bottom right, Heritage at Surprise, that's 100 units there.  That was also a brand-new 
construction.  The two on the right are both owned and managed by the housing 
authority.  The one on the left is a co-partnership with the housing authority, with the 
developer.  So those are kind of some of the outcomes that we have.   
This is a prime example of what we are really passionate about.  This is Norton Circle 
redevelopment.  So on the left, that's the before.  So that's kind of a military barracks- 
style public housing, brick-and-mortar, cement, rough, dilapidated space.  And we 
converted that 46  units to 100 units.  And that's on the right.  It was leased, 100 percent 
in three months.  And that's the space on the bottom right-hand side.   
So it went from the before, to the after, 46 units.  We increased density from 46 to 100 
and allowed it to be a lot more modern and a lot more smiling faces and families.

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This is Heritage Senior Apartments.  This was recently opened in October of last year.  
This is 99 units, brand new construction.  The Housing Authority owns and manages this 
particular property.  It has Section 202.  Noel mentioned that a little bit earlier.  This is 
an investment and partnership with the City of Surprise.   
This is actually the second property that we have, which are almost right next to each 
other.  But Heritage Senior Apartments is a part of a old-town site initiative by the city, 
and they're actually building -- after we completed this, they're currently building their 
multigenerational center.  That'll go right next to the Heritage Senior Apartments.  But 
this particular project includes nine percent tax credits, and it also has HUD Section 202 
with it.  So we kind of see, kind of, some of the development that has taken place.   
The proposal that we're seeking out now is Baden and Hollar Apartments.  So this is 
existing property, existing families, existing homes, that we want to modernize.   
There's 45 units.  They are in need of not only a fresh coat of paint, but a lot more 
amenities inside the unit.  This particular property currently is four -- one to four 
bedrooms.  We're going to convert it to one to three bedrooms.   
We want to include supportive services.  We want include -- those are wraparound 
services for resident services.  We want to include a higher density, going from 45 units 
to 100 , and keep the affordable housing option, or the affordable housing subsidy that's 
on the property.  When we say affordable, we mean -- I mean, families pay 30 percent 
of their income.   
This is a design concept here.  Like I mentioned, this will include a property that's 
adjacent from one another, 100 units.  It'll include a clubhouse with amenities or the 
existing two properties,  Baden and Hollar.  They do not have a leasing office on site, so 
families have to go elsewhere to get that support.  But this will include a clubhouse with 
amenities, a play area, a tot lot, and will be around two to three story building.   
This is the project timeline.  We're looking to get the support from the City Council.  
We're going to put in our tax credit application for nine percent April 1st.  
Announcements are roughly around June.  We'll look to bring in an investor to help 
support the financing in August, do our due diligence, look for project closing,

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construction completion around September of next year, and then have stabilized 
occupancy by December of 2027.  So that's the brief timeline.   
So the investment -- I heard that earlier, that word -- is really the -- to help the Housing 
Authority assist with the tax credit application aspect.  The State of Arizona is extremely 
competitive when it comes to funding for housing, whether that's bonds, tax credits, 
nine percents, four percents.  And because of that competitiveness, it's important that 
we score very high on that -- on that scoring criteria for tax credits.   
There's two specific scoring criteria:  local government contributions of at least 500,000, 
and developer fee waivers of at least 100,000.  So those two scoring criteria will assist 
with a scoring, as we scored it now, 180 points out of a possible 185.   
Developers that typically get the tax credits are scoring in that range.  So it's very, like I 
said, competitive.  So would we be very helpful to have those two criteria so that we can 
maximize the amount of scores that we have when we go in for application.   
So the other thing that I wanted to bring up is, right now, the property, hasn't been 
named yet, as we're going to redevelop it.  So we had two possible ideas, three possible 
ideas, Residence at Roosevelt, Garden Court Apartments, and Flats at 93rd Avenue.   
And so those are the potential names that we're going to name this new redevelopment 
investment of housing in the City of Tolleson.  So I wanted to open it up for questions if 
you have any questions for me.  
DAVIS:  First, the name's missing Tolleson.  So.  
[LAUGHTER] 
DAVIS:  (Indiscernible) 
MINOTT:  Great question.  Yes.  So the families that are there now, they'll have the first 
right to refusal.  They can come back to the property.  Obviously, we would have to 
relocate them, because we're going to demo the entire property, and they would come 
back.  So similarly, we've done this on three other projects.  But 80 to 90 percent of 
families that had to relocate came back to the property.  Yeah.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  By the way, I am a big fan of Brandon Talks, (ph.) always a square 
mile.

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MINOTT:  Yes.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Somehow we've got (indiscernible) Tolleson to date 
(indiscernible). 
MINOTT:  Tracking.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:   Yes, Councilmember? 
CHAVIRA:  So will all the units be LIHTC,  or will there be a mix then, of public housing, 
Section 8 voucher, or just -- 
MINOTT:  Great question.  
CHAVIRA:  -- all LIHTC?  
MINOTT:  No, that's a great question.  So the entire property will be tax credit, but on 
another layer of -- of subsidy, there will be what's called project-based rental assistance.  
That's the assistance that we currently have with HUD.  We would not remove that.  And 
that allows the families to only have to pay 30 percent of their income for their rent.  
GAMEZ:  You mentioned -- 
MINOTT:  Yes, of course.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  You mentioned services, and I'm just wondering, I know you 
brought up the leasing office, but what other services do the residents get in their 
contract?  
MINOTT:  Yeah.  So typically with tax credit applications, there are resident services that 
have to be included in that lower agreement.  Certain agreements haven't been finalized 
yet.  But typically what we see on properties that we do is financial literacy.  We -- that 
is a resident service requirement, so that families that are in that particular property 
have to attend those types of programing.  We also have computer literacy.  We also 
have other resident services such as Kids' Cafe different things like that.  So it's really a 
mixture.  And it also depends on what the state is requiring as far as those wraparound 
services for residents.  
GAMEZ:  I just wanted to say, I grew up on (indiscernible). 
MINOTT:  Okay.  Okay.   
GAMEZ:   With that Hollar Gardens Apartments.  Those are the ones west of where I

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grew up.  And so I had a lot of friends that grew up there, and they're still friends of 
mine.  And I always thought those units were kept up nicely.  They were clean.  We 
played a lot of ball there --  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Pope Francis. 
GAMEZ:   -- broke windows and stuff, but nevertheless, got chased around.  But we had 
a great time.  And I think this is good that it's happening.  I think that it's going to 
continue to do what it's always done, provide housing for people who need it, but at a 
greater scale, and I welcome this development.  I think it's great.  My issues would be 
the traffic, if anything, and the parking situation for the people that live there.  It might 
be self-sustaining.  I don't know.  Those are issues that maybe aren't issues, but just 
concerns.  Again, I really do appreciate this.  And it kind of tears me up a little bit 
because what I grew up with, it's all going to be gone, but it's new, so that's cool.  That's 
fine.  And so I welcome that, big time.  Thank you so much.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Thank you.  Anyone on this side? 
ERIVES:  I just have a question.  Sorry.  I know you speak housing, but when you say 
those letters, LIHTC, I'm assuming that's a tax credit?  
CHAVIRA:  Yes.  
ERIVES:  And I heard -- they speak a little bit more of that.  So can you explain to me, you 
said the people that live there now have the option of coming back and signing up to  
be -- to live there.  In the meantime, where do they go?  
MINOTT:  So typically when we do relocation, we have a relocation plan.  Typically, 
when we have to demo a property, we place families temporarily in a neighboring 
property that we manage.  So it may be Avondale.  It may be -- we have a couple of 
properties in Avondale.  We have different partnerships.  We want to keep them close 
to where they're at, because obviously they may have school --- 
ERIVES:  That was one -- yeah.  Uh-huh. 
MINOTT: -- medical, or those types of things.  And we fall into that.  We've handled that 
appropriately.  If there isn't something that meets the family's need because it may be 
size, maybe it's, you know, other extenuating circumstances, we do have some other

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housing options.  
ERIVES:  So they -- they're  -- they go.  And what about like, pack -- I mean, I'm just 
literally thinking of a senora, a woman, right?  And she -- she's elderly.  Is there 
assistance to help her pack up the stuff and to physically move her?  I don't want 
anyone hurt, and, you know, just kind of like, oh, I broke my arm when I was moving 
heavy boxes, and so I wasn't sure if there -- so there's support for that.   
Okay.  So then you said those, those families, if they choose to, they can come back, but 
you also said they were going to almost double in size, so additional people can come in 
to live.  Do I have to have a voucher, or a Section 8 voucher, for that?  Or again, can my 
daughter say, oh, there's now some new apartments in.  Maybe I qualify based on the 
requirements.  Or, like, can you explain that next part?  
MINOTT:  Yes, yes.  Thank you for your question.  Thank you.  So let me go back.  So the 
families that are going to have to temporarily relocate, as part of the relocation plan, 
we're required to provide them the moving services.  So what we offer is the moving 
services; pack, move, whatever.  That's part of what we're going to do in that process.  
So no one that has maybe -- they have a cast on their hand, and they can't pack, then 
we take care of things like that.  So there's a whole process that goes along with that.   
In terms of families that have a voucher, so the property currently has assistance on it.  
So you can't add a Section  8 voucher with project-based assistance, right?  Because that 
would be dual subsidy.  So you can't have both.   
Now, potentially, what would happen is if we're going to increase it to 100 units, 45 
would have the assistance.  So the 30 percent.  But families that maybe have a Section 8 
voucher, or they income qualify, because under the tax credit eligibility they have to 
income qualify, right?  They have to be under a certain income level.   
They could use their Section 8 voucher at the property, as long as it's not -- as long as it 
doesn't have subsidy already on it, on that unit, right?  So if we have 100 units, 45 have 
subsidy on it, the other 55 would be able to use a Section 8 voucher on it.  
The other folks that maybe don't have a Section 8 voucher, as long as they income 
qualify, they could still be able to -- be able to -- be eligible for that unit, even though it

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is a lower rent cost.  So.  Okay.  
CHAVIRA:  I'm sorry, I forgot one question I meant to ask is that historically there has 
not been management there on the property.  Would there be now then management 
on the property and maintenance?  Yes?  Terrific.  Thank you.  
DAVIS:  I've got a bunch of things (indiscernible). 
[LAUGHTER] 
DAVIS:  You mentioned qualifying income.  What is that?  
MINOTT:  That's a great question.  And I don't memorize those charts.  Because it's also 
based upon how many -- how many household members you have.  It's a whole chart 
that it comes with the state.  I don't have those memorized because I would have to go 
through each bedroom size and each set aside that's part of the tax credit property 
program.  
DAVIS:  Families that are (indiscernible) that help them with going to school 
(indiscernible). 
MINOTT:  Agreed.  Right, right.  And then right when school starts.  Right.  Depending on 
the timing of the development.  So we do offer services, and it is somewhat limited.  So 
we have moving, we have transfer fees, we have utility, you know, transfer fees, 
different things like that that we take care of.  But as far as travel to a particular school, 
if you will, because they had to be temporarily displaced.  That is not something that we 
typically take care of.  Okay.  
DAVIS:  If I can (indiscernible) senior  center  (indiscernible) 
MINOTT:  Uh-huh. 
DAVIS:   It's wonderful.   
MINOTT:  Right.   
DAVIS:  I would have the same concern with them being able to get to the senior center.  
And you know, that socialization is very important for seniors.  Okay.  And you also 
mentioned amenities.  What amenities are -- is this property going to have?  
MINOTT:  So we would include -- some of our modern properties include a dishwasher.  
They would include a garbage disposal --

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MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  (Indiscernible) 
MINOTT:  Okay.  Okay.  So you know, there's certain -- with the property that it exists 
now, there are certain things that it just doesn't have that we would consider, why is 
this not in the -- why is this not in the unit?  So you know, dishwashers, ceiling fan, 
different things like that.  Obviously, new  light fixtures.   
DAVIS:  (Indiscernible) 
MINOTT:  Correct.   
DAVIS:  And (indiscernible) 
MINOTT:  Correct.  Yeah.  We're not going to do a splash spot, but it would have like a 
playground.  That's something that the property doesn't have.  So it would have those 
types of outdoor amenities.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Jason?  
EARP:  Thank you.  Mayor, Vice Mayor.  I can't take the credit.  Randy thought of this, 
but it's something we could think about if this comes to fruition, is potentially putting 
that as part of our Lyft and Uber destination.  Or -- and/or -- I can't speak for -- for 
George, but you know, our vans going out of the city to pick up seniors. 
DAVIS:  (Indiscernible) 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:   (Indiscernible) There's going to be a waiting list for these units.  
Do you go to a county waiting list, or are you going to give Tolleson residents an 
opportunity, and have a local waiting list here?   
MINOTT:  Great question.  So all of our -- the waiting list for this particular property is 
currently open now.  So there is a waiting list, because there is a federal requirement 
that has to take place because of that -- the subsidy that's on it.  For the subsidized 
units.  Those units that don't have subsidy, like that are just tax credit, right, like we 
talked about the 55, those don't have a waiting list.  Those are just, you know, you come 
out to the property management and you say do you have any available units, that type 
of thing.  So yes, there is a waiting list for the affordable side, but for those that are not, 
it -- there's a, you know, first come, first served. 
DAVIS:  Can we designate those to the community?  Is that possible?

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MINOTT:  It's possible when we go into the application process, there are certain things 
that we can do as far as set aside.  So maybe there is a  -- excuse me -- there is a point 
system for seniors, if you're going to serve those types of populations.  So that is 
something that we could consider.  Yeah.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  How about for Section 8? 
MINOTT:  Yeah.  So there'll be some -- certain requirements for ADA units.  There has to 
be a certain percentage of that.  So we'll have to have that included in that proposal for 
that development.  Yeah.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  (Indiscernible).  Well, I didn't grow up on 8, but I grew up with a 
bunch of friends that grew up in these projects.  
MINOTT:  Okay.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  And so I can tell you I often (indiscernible) my knees on that turf 
out there many times, playing basketball.  But I think it's time for some modernization.  I 
mean, the units have been there.  I'm a big masonry guy, I like block.  I'll admit it.  
Bullets can't penetrate through them.   Just saying.  
[LAUGHTER] 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Plywood and chicken wire look kind of bad.  But that's the 
construction model that we have here in Arizona.  Tornadoes and that kind of stuff.   But 
I think it's time for modernization.  Honestly, the need has grown.  Initially, the service 
that we provided for 45 families.  We're on pace to double it at 100 new ones.  
MINOTT:  Uh-huh.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Which I don't think is a  crazy ask.  
MINOTT:  Uh-huh.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Well, (indiscernible) is on the property.  
MINOTT:  Right. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  And it's in a sense, self-contained. 
MINOTT:  Uh-huh.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  So I think we do (indiscernible).  I really do.  And so with that being 
said, I want to thank you for your presentation.

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MINOTT:  Thank  you.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I look forward to seeing some renderings of what the --  
MINOTT:  Uh-huh.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  -- Tolleson development will look like because right now it's 
theoretical.   
MINOTT:  Uh-huh.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  You see what other things have happened in other cities.   
MINOTT:  Right.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  But as we move closer to Tolleson, and the design starts, I would 
love to see a follow up to that.   
MINOTT:  Of course.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  And maybe that's something we can do here locally.  And then, 
also, I just want to reiterate, it's very critical for us for a six-foot mile city that Tolleson is 
prominent as a name.  
MINOTT:  Okay.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:   And so, you know, if there's any way that Tolleson can be tied 
into it, I think, it would be beyond awesome.  
MINOTT:  Yes, sir.  Okay.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Vice Mayor?  
DAVIS:  And if there's some space for a mural somewhere on there or some artwork, 
we're never going to shy away from that.  If there's no other --- was there other 
questions?  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  No, I'm just --  I was making sure nobody else questions.  
DAVIS:  Can I make a motion to adopt resolution number 2633? 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I will now entertain a motion.  Vice Mayor has made a motion --   
ERIVES:  Second.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  -- to adopt.  We have a second by, was it Cruzita, or was it -- 
Clorinda.  By Councilwoman Erives.  We have a first.  We have a second.  All those in 
favor signify by saying aye.

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ALL:  Aye. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:   Those opposed?  Awesome.  Motion passes.  And good luck on 
the petition.  You got the 500,000 and 100,000, so hopefully it puts us in a pretty good 
competitive place.   
MINOTT:  Thank you, sir.  Appreciate it.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All right.  We're going to move on to item number two.  This is to 
adopt, deny resolution number 2634.  This is Jason's walk-up clap.  
[LAUGHTER] 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  For the Mayor, City Council from the City of Tolleson, Arizona, 
authorizing the sale of the City parcel number 102-48-263, located at the northeast 
corner of 91st Avenue and Van Buren Street to Schultz Real Estate Management Corp. 
and authorizing the Mayor, City Manager, City Clerk, and City Attorney to execute and 
deliver the purchase contract, and all related documents necessary to complete the 
transaction development.  Mr. Jason Earp, Development Services Director, you have the 
floor, sir.  
EARP:  Thank you.  Mayor.  Vice Mayor, Members of Council.  First of all, this is a step 
forward to something that the City has been wanting, the community has been wanting 
it awhile.  Myself, with our team, certainly Jon Paladini, has helped put this together 
tonight.  And they're also on virtually, if there's any questions for them, but I'll just kind 
of go over some highlights.  It would be the sale of the northeast corner of 91st and Van 
Buren.  We're selling it for $1 million.   
Some of the requirements for this development, it has to be a minimum of 15-year 
lease.  It has to include a grocery store that has a minimum of 30,000 square feet.  They 
have a due diligence time.  They're working with someone now, but that would be nine 
months.  And for some reason, if in that time, whether it's nine months or even shorter, 
they cannot fulfill that that requirement, then the property reverts back to us, and then 
we can move on looking for someone else.   
But we think, and another important aspect of this, if they do move forward, they build 
a beautiful plaza area with a grocery store, and other stores around it, and in two years

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they want to sell it, we have first right of refusal to purchase it and own it for as long as 
the City would want to own that.   
So we make sure to put a lot things in place to make sure that we're protected, that this 
property is just not bought and then developed into something else.  And if, Jon, you 
want to add anything else to that, that's kind of the gist of the --  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Let me mention that --  
MINOTT:   Oh, go ahead.  Mayor.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Question is this.  It's zoned commercial, but it has to be a grocery 
store of at least 30,000 square feet that would be built on?  
EARP:  That is correct.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  No commercial development without our approval can be built 
there?   
PALADINI:  Right,  the, Mayor and Council, the current purchase agreement will be 
followed up at some point during the escrow by a development agreement.  It's 
required in the purchase-and-sale agreement, but there'll be basically a deed restriction 
that requires that the property be used for at least a 30,000-square foot grocery store. 
As the primary tenant or occupier of the property, there's a likelihood that there'll be 
some other ancillary shops and maybe a restaurant pad or fast food pad or something 
like that that goes along with it.   
I think the other thing that the buyer-slash-developer is going to be obligated to do is -- 
is fix that big drainage hole, you know, that's going to -- that's there, you know, so that's 
why the cost is a little bit less than appraised.  But when you look at sort of the 
engineering that needs to go into the property to make it usable, it, you know, we're 
pretty -- what was what's the word?  Satisfied with purchase price, and then the  -- for 
the long term return on investment.  
EARP:  Jon, I just  need a small correction because of that -- what's there is  -- it comes 
off of 91st Avenue, has nothing to do with the project actually.  So we're going to use 
other CIP funds --  
PALADINI:  Okay.

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EARP:  -- to move that off of it.  So that would be our responsibility.  But under another 
fund because that's drainage from 91st Avenue, not from the actual property.   
PALADINI:  The only other -- not the only other thing, but what you will see, I think, in 
two weeks is bringing to you a zoning, or amendment to the core zoning code that 
allows -- because right now it doesn't allow for 30,000 square feet for a grocery store.  
So there'll be a code amendment that will create an exception to that for a grocery store 
purpose.   
So you know, unless you want it to be, you know, another 30,000 square foot sort of 
box stores.  But the kind of thought -- the thought was is to allow for 30,000 square foot 
grocery store in the core zone.  And I think our thinking is that if and when this one goes 
in, you probably won't see another one for a while.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  In our core zone, is there any other lot -- building that size?  
EARP:  Potentially the southwest corner of Van Buren.  
PALADINI:  And you know, again, getting a little bit ahead.  But, you know, developers 
can always cobble together multiple parcels, and you know -- so it's always possible, I 
think.  So that's why we're going to do it sort of strategically to allow for, you know, a 
30,000-square foot grocery store.  And by the way, a 30,000 square foot,  I think the 
agreement says it -- that's the retail space.  So if you talk about like the back areas, 
offices, that's an addition too.  So that's a pretty good size full-service grocery store.  
Yeah.  
EARP:  That's pretty much it.  Obviously staff is recommending this, and  hopefully 
sometime in the near future, we have a grocery store.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Well, this is -- this obviously has been a lot of work, just making -- I 
know Jason has seen, Reyes and other management folks have done amazing work and 
going out there and marketing this site.  Our developers also has done a great job,  and 
you know, we're not quite there yet, but this is a major step in that direction.  So you 
know, I think it's -- it's a good step.  And then they're going to pay us for it.  You said a 
million dollars? 
EARP:  Yes.  For the property.  Yes.

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MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  (indiscernible), so I think it's a good idea.  
ERIVES:  When you mentioned -- thank you, Mayor.   When you mentioned the million, 
can you just tell me again, you said if in nine months they don't get a --  
EARP:  Yes.  
ERIVES:  -- it returns back to us?  
EARP:  So they have an initial --  
ERIVES:   Do we have to pay them back the million?  Do we have to refund them? 
PALADINI: No, no, because it will be -- it will still be an escrow.  So -- and there's an 
extension period of the escrow.  So right now we're anticipating nine months.  I think 
they have an extension up to another six months after that.  So you know, just to lock 
down a tenant, you know, a grocery store tenant and then -- and then once they do 
that, then they close escrow, then then that's when the purchase proceeds come to the 
city. 
ERIVES:   I just wanted to make sure that we looked, but we really didn't find anything.  
And so we --   
PALADINI:  Just be clear the agreement allows either party, the city, or -- as a seller and 
the buyer/developer to cancel the escrow up to that time period, if for some reason 
can't accomplish what we're trying to accomplish.  Because the whole goal of across the 
street is to get that grocery store. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:   Attorney and staff have done an amazing job of putting together 
a contract that protects the city, and that's a perfect example of how it's doing that.  But 
any other questions?  Yes, please.  
DAVIS:  I think this is a great step forward being out there, you know, talking to the 
community lately this,  still, one of the number one asks of our community, so -- and 
our -- our residents deserve equitable access to food.  So if we can -- all food, you 
know ---  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:   Fruits and vegetables.  
DAVIS:  Good food.  You know, not fast food, not McDonald's.  Sorry, McDonald's 
[LAUGHTER]

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DAVIS:  (indiscernible) guardrails, safe, it'll help.  (Indiscernible) 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  And this is (indiscernible) talking about this great development 
that's coming down the road.  There's a lot of pieces that have to fall into place, but this 
is a very significant first piece.  So the work that's gone into it is also very significant.  So 
again, I just want to reiterate my thank you for staff's efforts, and continued 
commitment to an ongoing goal to get where we need to be, and -- somebody talking?  
(Indiscernible) did they want to speak?  I don't have any questions.  I just have a lot of 
gratitude at this point.  So any other questions?   
All right.  Well, funny enough, I will entertain a motion.   
GAMEZ:  (Indiscernible) 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Okay.  We have a motion by Councilmember Gamez.   
DAVIS:  Second. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  We have a second by Vice Mayor Davis.  All those in favor of 
approving this item, please signify by saying aye.  
ALL:   Aye.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All those opposed?  Okay, Clerk, motion passes unanimously.  We 
are going to move on to Work Study, and so, Jason, thank you very much.  Are you -- 
EARP:   Thank you mayor. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  So just because we want to be efficient, I don't want Jason to walk 
all the way back.  Stay where you're at.  This is a Work Study and presentation for 
discussion only.  This is city owned property update.  And guess who's going to be 
presenting?  Our Development Services Director, Jason Earp.   
EARP:  Thank you.  Mayor.  So this is an overview of the properties that the city owns.  I 
know a couple of the councilmembers have -- am I hitting the wrong one?  The big -- the 
big button, right.  Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.   
[LAUGHTER] 
EARP:  Any questions?  
[LAUGHTER] 
EARP:  So these properties -- there's about 11 properties.  We're going to discuss the

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current status, identify development opportunities, and then receive Council direction.  
And just wanted to let you know, also, we have Ruby Arvizu, from our department here 
taking notes, so if anything that's said, we're -- I know it's recorded, but you never know.  
I want to make sure we capture everything that's -- that's said.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Who? 
EARP:  What was that ?  Arvizu.  Ruby Arvizu.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Arvizu? 
EARP:  Yep.  So this is kind of an overview of our 11 properties that we own.  And we'll 
get a closer look at them.  The ones -- the ones in red are still in escrow.  So they're 
officially not ours yet.  But those were approved by Council, and we're working towards 
those.  But we'll also go over those as well.   
So we might as well start off with the -- the biggest one which we dub the Pit.  It's 
undeveloped property.  There's certain things we could do.  We talked about them 
earlier with Noel's, and also the county's, you know, build to rent or lease to own 
housing, for sale, residential.  Obviously, that would be market driven.  Or public parks-
slash- recreation or all the above.  You know, so this is one of the ones that we're here 
to tonight to get feedback from Mayor and Council on what you want to look for it, look 
at in this area.  
So this is kind of just a description or shows where it's at, Villa del Verde.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  My perspective, earlier when I was talking about purchasable 
condos, this is a property that comes to mind.  I like the idea of incorporating a park and 
maybe putting the condos on the edge side of it.  And then, this is also where our trail 
system -- is going to -- it's going to border this property, so we can tie in the trail system 
into it.  But I would love to see condos that young, or anybody can purchase.  But 
particularly young folks coming out of Tolleson can buy as a first home, as a starter 
home, as they build up their income to be able to do something more significant, like 
build a -- buy -- buy a bigger home.  But this parcel has amazing opportunities for a 
pond, a fishing pond.  It's got access to the canal right there.    (Indiscernible). 
Stuff like that.  Nothing too crazy, like I wouldn't want to see Workforce here.   It'd be

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more of a passive.  But of course, the housing, I think, is critical.  And maybe the parking 
and rest stop area for some of the homeowners we have, (indiscernible).  But that's 
what I would like to see.   
DAVIS:  I agree.  My doctor told me recently that he was (indiscernible) find that out 
there.   
[LAUGHTER] 
DAVIS:  But I do think that's a great spot for some type of mixed use with -- with parks.  
And you know, I think I think a pond would really be great.  And condos would be 
amazing more.  But condos that you can purchase, not -- not rent.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Yes? 
CHAVIRA:  Thank you.  I also love that idea.  I think that would be great to have some 
condos, to have a pond, to have the dog park, a walking space.  It can be integrated into 
our multimodal project that's coming through.  All great ideas.  Love it.  I think I would 
like to see us have perhaps a town hall at some point and talk to the community that 
lives in that area and get some ideas to what they might like to see.  By then, we're 
going to have the aquatic center coming up and have it all work together.  Awesome.  I 
love it.  Yeah.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  (Indiscernible).  Maybe 5th Avenue and Van Buren.  And Del Valle.   
CHAVIRA:  Yeah.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I mean, it's small enough to where you're not going to have a huge 
traffic flow so you can have your units, but not so many that it becomes scrappy.   
CHAVIRA:  Right.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  -- when you're leaving every morning before work. 
CHAVIRA:  Right.  Yeah.  
DAVIS:  It would be wonderful if (indiscernible)  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ: (indiscernible) 
ERIVES:  Out on the rocky modal?  
DAVIS:   Once the trail ends,  you know, the lakes, their little park where you can 
exercise some more.

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EARP:   Okay.  Thank you.  Mayor,  Vice Mayor, we were taking notes, and we'll come 
back with something on all these properties that we talk about.  Thank you.   
9101 West Pierce.  This is the one that was just approved last Council meeting.  Still 
going through escrow now, but it has two properties 6,500 each, so about 13,000 total.  
Things that can go in there.  It's core.  So it's commercial office, residential, 
entertainment.  Retail, residential.  Yeah.  Right there.  It's right off of 91st Avenue.  Infill 
housing.  We've been talking about  houses -- it's is a theme tonight, I guess.  So that 
could be -- it could be residential over retail.  I think that was brought up also and -- or 
standalone retail.  So those are some options for that lots.  And  we're open to any 
suggestions Mayor and council has.  
GAMEZ:  Mr. Mayor -- oh go ahead, sir. 
LABORIN:  Yes. 
DAVIS:  Yes.   
[LAUGHTER] 
DAVIS:  I think in many of these spaces, if we can, because with such a huge housing 
shortage, I think we should always look at commercial and-- and retail.  I mean, you 
know what I'm saying?  Commercial on the bottom and residential on top.  I think that's 
a good option for many of these.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I will add that I think parking needs to be thought of before we put 
in retail.  We have a situation, as you all aware of, where we have a great store, and a 
lot of complaints from the neighbors because people are parking in front of their house.  
And so that might be a good opportunity for us to have a small parking lot to service the 
retail portion on the frontage.  
DAVIS:  I think there is a parking lot already like a block away, isn't there?  From there -- 
isn't like the one by Circle K?  Isn't that --  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  It's a walk.  
CHAVIRA:  It's a walk.  
[CROSS TALK] 
DAVIS:  The one that goes to the church?

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MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Yeah.  That's the church one.  
DAVIS:  Yeah.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER 6:  Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of council, just to give you 
a brief history on this parcel.  We've had two different groups over the years.  It's been a 
very long time that have approached us.  The first one was Dairy Queen.  That never 
came to fruition.  We were very excited about it.  And then, a, --like a, what would you 
call it, a miniature golf facility that would have had a snack bar and stuff.   
So there's been interest in the past.  Hopefully with the increased traffic, and the more 
development around Tolleson, we can attract -- I think we all agree, like, we've been 
after residential over retail for years, and the one to the south of Van Buren sets the 
precedent.  I'd love to see more up and down the core.  This is a great opportunity for 
that as well.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  (Indiscernible). 
ERIVES:  (Indiscernible) so that's how her house was before, too, right?   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Yeah.    
ERIVES:  Yeah.  You had said.  Yeah.   Something like that.  Yeah.  
EARP:  Thank you,  Mayor.  9213 - 9215 West Polk.  Again, about almost 14,000 square 
feet.  We're already moving towards.  This is the old,  sorry, Andretti's -- Aldretti's (ph.) 
Aldretti's.  So we're moving forward towards infill housing.  I had a conversation -- oh, 
she left, with Noel about this.  So we're working on this.  It just makes sense because it's 
housing all along Polk Street.  So we're looking at -- the only question I have for Council 
is would you like to single lots or would there, duplex?   
CHAVIRA:  Tiny homes?  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I would like, I would like a single-family home on each lot.  
DAVIS:  I would disagree.  I think if we have the opportunity to be flexible or something 
like that.  I know I used to flex that the owner had (indiscernible) on one side  and 
then -- 
CHAVIRA:    Uh-huh. 
DAVIS:  -- pretty messed in the middle of the (indiscernible)  It had plenty of parking.  It

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didn't really disrupt the rest of the neighborhood.  So like those options would be great, 
if it's diversified, if we'll have an option.    
EARP:  Thank you, Vice Mayor.  So the biggest difference obviously you have two single 
detached family homes.  It's  two families, for the most part.  Duplex, fourplex, if you go 
up, you can add more residential that way.  So it was just a conversation we had 
internally just wondering, you know, thoughts from Council.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Do we have any bites on it.  
EARP:  No, no.  We would -- we had to go out and solicit for whatever council decides 
they would like to see there.   
CHAVIRA:  My street.  You know, but I'm not opposed to a duplex or a triplex or maybe 
some -- I'm sorry, townhouse style.  If we have an issue with seniors that don't have an 
affordable place to live, maybe that's the way to go.  I think just having a residential 
development would make us all happy on the street, as opposed to a commercial 
business.  So whatever that may be, and what serves the community best, for me, that 
would be great.  But I think if we -- the more people we can serve, if we can serve, 
maybe some seniors, that would be terrific.  Yeah.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  (Indiscernible)  
EARP:  Yeah, yeah.  There's several things we could do, and that's one of them, RFP, 
RFQ, and/or working with a nonprofit to do some infill housing or whatever that looks 
like.  After we get feedback from council, then we'll go back and kind of do our 
homework, and then I would assume, come back and, you know, we can  -- we put 
feelers out there between Noel and I on the housing part and see what -- what best fits 
there and who wants to -- it's all market driven, right?   So.  
ERIVES:  For that same property, I don't know.  I think we have talked about, like, if you 
did senior housing -- but you're so close to Van Buren, could we also add like a walkable 
path that they could go from that neighborhood area down towards Van Buren?  So 
then once they're there -- I think of like schools, right?  When we talked about different 
buildings and an apartment complex, if there was a gate so that they could walk to the 
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But if it were to come down right to -- to Van Buren, now, if it's a senior complex that 
has a senior area, right, for homes, then they could, like, walk to Van Buren.  Once 
you're on Van Buren, you can go to the restaurants.  You can go walk to different places.  
Sometimes there's a church.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  (Indiscernible) 
ERIVES:  We own that.  Right.  So that could be a -- I'm just thinking, if you're -- that way, 
you don't have to go all the way around.  It's a walkable park for that facility.  
CHAVIRA:  I would, you know, I would think about security for -- if it was seniors as an 
example that we would want to make sure that they're secure.  And I think a gate to Van 
Buren would be great.  But that's also going to be a parking area.  So we'd have to see 
how we could make that work.  Yeah.  
EARP:  9258 West Van Buren.  We're calling it -- right now  we're just calling it Tolleson 
Community-slash-event center.  We don't know exactly what.  That's the former call to 
care property that we bought off -- on Van Buren, to host city and community events 
meeting space and regional events.  Lately, we've been having Congresswoman Grijalva 
and others.  And you know, you see, sometimes it gets pretty packed in our area.  Now, 
this will be definitely a much bigger spot for -- to host those kind of things and anything 
from quinceaneras, anything that we could think of potentially needing space.  
And we have a bunch of ideas flowing, but we -- we still wanted to ask you and your 
thoughts on that.  Potential expanded programing and rentals.  That's what I was talking 
about.  But just to kind of give you a picture, that's where it's at in the lot to the -- to the 
west we purchased, so then that would be incorporated parking as well for the river. 
DAVIS:  (Indiscernible) most especially (indiscernible). 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  (Indiscernible) outside of all of the uses would be awesome 
(indiscernible) small businesses incubator for culinary arts, if we have a kitchen and its  
different (indiscernible) small businesses that we provide an office space, conference 
room, and they all have offices.  But the idea is that you could get them, so they go big 
enough to have their own corporate rooms. 
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two.  Because I do like the idea of having a place to have your quinca and your 
anniversary and things like that.  I think the community would all benefit from that and 
like that, especially if residents get a, you know, a sliding scale fee perhaps on using the 
space, but maybe we do that incubator and that I can't remember what we're calling it.  
It's across from -- oh, okay. 
DAVIS:  Having been in that quarter space over there, I think that's a great use of that 
space --  
CHAVIRA:  Right.  
DAVIS:  Pretty big.  It's pretty open.  And then there's another side space that the 
building is kind of divided into two sections, if I remember correctly.  (Indiscernible).  But 
for this one --  
CHAVIRA:  Yeah.  
DAVIS:  -- one other thing that I need to mention.  Mayor pointed it out to me.  The side 
of this wall here is a huge white canvas that needs a mural.  So we need to figure out 
how to make that happen.  
[LAUGHTER] 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Sorry, guys.  
[LAUGHTER] 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:   The idea is that could be a studio for residential students at 
Arizona State.  You come down and do a community project  --  
CHAVIRA:  Yeah.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  -- for a semester.  And so basically you need to be artists that are 
developing their own artistic reality, and they can become, or get those studios on their 
own.  But just another idea.  It doesn't have to be business or culinary.  It also be artists, 
or people that --  
CHAVIRA:  Yeah.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:   -- they can do projects at the high school an elementary schools.  
DAVIS:  I think that it might be appealing.   
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MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  That's why I didn't want to bring it up.   
CHAVIRA:  I like it.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:   Just another just another idea.  I mean, whatever sticks and 
whatever the -- whatever the market is calling for.  But who has a question?  Pilar?  Go 
ahead, Pilar. 
SINAWI:  Yes, thank you.  Mayor,  Members of Council.  As you're talking about the 
incubator space, I know that that the Parks and Recreation Center does already have, 
like a community kitchen.  And now that we've been able to move the programing over 
to the after -- on the site, to the Tolleson Elementary School District, I think that, you 
know, those ideas of bringing in students and colleges, that facility may lend itself for 
that also.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  (Indiscernible). 
EARP:  These are -- this is one of the ones that we already are moving towards, the old 
gas station right next to the property we were just talking to.  We're -- some of our 
businesses downtown are busy, especially on the weekends.  And they need parking 
support, parking.  And so we're in design now of a parking.  It's not going to just be a 
parking spot.  It's going to be what our engineer calls a fancy parking, whatever that 
means.  But just to make it more amenable, you know, nicer than your paved parking 
lot, so hopefully fit the area.  And just so you guys --  
DAVIS:  (Indiscernible). 
EARP:  Yeah, we've been discussing that in length, so -- 
DAVIS:  (Indiscernible). 
EARP:  Yeah.  So talking with the Deputy City Manager, she's been really pushing for this, 
and we've been doing a lot of research with traffic engineers with the -- I won't think of 
the name of it,  MUT -- anyways, the manual uniform for traffic control for streets and 
highways.  Unfortunately, we're not going to be able to get a -- it brings more liability on 
us if we put a crosswalk, because in reality, no matter what, even if we flash it, it's two 
lines, it provides security for someone, it doesn't fit in the -- in the basically engineering 
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But another idea that our City Manager and deputy city manager had that we're really 
looking at is doing some closing off -- well, we're already going to close off some of the 
driveways because there's too many driveways.  Again, that's a safety issue, for not only 
pedestrians but also traffic, is some kind of wall that we quoted the fact that Las Vegas 
that will direct them.  Not a small wall where they're just going to jump over and still 
walk across the street, direct them to the -- either of the two crosswalks there.   
DAVIS:  (Indiscernible). 
EARP:  Definitely want to match our esthetics.  Yeah.  For sure.  
ERIVES:  You don't have it marked in yellow, but we own the property where the 
restrooms are?  
EARP:  Yeah, that's going to be part of the -- the parking.  Yeah.    
ERIVES:  Oh, is that part of your presentation, too?   
EARP:  Yeah.  Well, it's just part of the parking that we're going to knock down that little 
wall, and most of the ADA will -- parking will be there.  One for the community center 
and then two to use the existing crosswalk that's right there already.  And then ,they can 
move across to the either the two restaurants they want, may want to go there.  
ERIVES:  Any plans for the restrooms to be open?  
EARP:   We have plans to build the restrooms, actually.  We finally found the original 
developer of that -- McNeel Park, doesn't have any restrooms.  So in speaking with 
our -- with Randy Babchuk every time we have events, you know, we bring in Jay Johns 
anyway.  We don't open those.  It's been a hassle right there.  I think just because of the 
area it's in.  So we keep them closed.  But most of the time, majority of the time -- 
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER 7:  Yeah, Mayor, Members of the Council, we just find all kinds 
of drug paraphernalia when we leave it open, we found, and it's just a hazard because 
kids after school want to go and use the restrooms.  And if there's that kind of stuff 
being left in there, we'd rather not leave it open, and we just lock it up.   
Now, when there's a special event where someone asks they're going to be using the 
place, we'll go up and make sure, open it up, lock it -- clean it, and then come back and 
lock it up when the event is done.  So I know they've done a couple toy drives there at

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the place this past year and we've done that.  So but other than that, we don't leave it 
open.  
EARP:  And so we'll, we'll work with that and rent Jay Johns or anything for events like 
that.  But we use the McNeel Park, not only residents, but also for I'm assuming, T-ball 
and that kind of thing.  So little kids, they got to go to the restroom, and there's no 
restrooms.  There's no restrooms there right now.  
DAVIS:  Those are like modulars?   
EARP:  Yeah.  Yeah.  They're modular.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I like the idea of parking lot because it serves the needs of 
(indiscernible) a parking lot's not going to help break out.  Again, if it's a good fit for us, 
you know the property, we can (indiscernible). 
EARP:  Understood.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  (Indiscernible). 
CHAVIRA:  That would be nice too.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  But the fact that it's a parking lot, it's got a lot of flexibility.   
CHAVIRA:  Right.  
EARP:  91st Avenue, Northeast and Southwest corners.  Goes without saying, we 
approved a PSA today.  We're working on a grocery store development on the northeast 
corner.  The southwest corner, we're pretty confident once the grocery store comes in, 
that's just going to activate that corner.  And that's also core commercial office, 
residential, entertainment.  And so we'll look to do the same kind of things, residential, 
hopefully commercial, and then residential above that, or anything that might come we 
kind of will bring, hopefully, multiple things to council for that.  
DAVIS:  (Indiscernible) these are things that (indiscernible)     
EARP:  Sure.  Sure. 
DAVIS:  (Indiscernible)   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Agree.  
DAVIS:  (Indiscernible) 
EARP:  Aquatics center site, seven acres.  One of the best decisions we ever made about

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moving it here.  We are coming to Council pretty soon.  We're working with our 
procurement officer.  We're doing a change order, if you will, or for economy of scale 
reasons, we're going to do the retail that we talked about whenever we started talking 
about this spot, because it definitely has enough room to put multiple suite up front and 
plenty of parking for both.  So interestingly enough, word got out.  And so we already 
have someone that's interested in.  It'll only fit one drive through to where it is, but then 
we'll have other -- other suites for other retail.  But we already have someone 
interested and ready to go as soon as that's built and hopefully sign there.   
So it is bringing a lot of excitement already, even though it's -- it's not even complete yet 
but --  
DAVIS:  Dairy Queen?  
[LAUGHTER] 
EARP:   I'll tell you -- I'll tell you, we were working with Dairy Queen very closely.  But 
that's the aquatic center.  Anybody has any questions?  Here's one of the ones that 
maybe have out of sight, out of mind.  83rd Avenue and Buckeye.  It's approximately six 
acres.  It's zoned I-1.  This is the one we purchased from the County.  So I just -- 
throwing out different ideas, you could have retail on the frontage, light industrial on 
the back.  Potentially attract I-1 user for e-commerce.   
Now we own it so we can control what kind of I-1 goes there, if it goes.  Or it could be all 
retail.  But that's going to be market driven.  We found out over the years that when it's 
too deep, it's hard to get all retail.  And in this picture I'll actually give you a perfect 
example, even though they kind of frustrated me.  Farmer Boys on the bottom corner in 
Phoenix.  So they put on the corner there retail, and then they have a like a light office 
industrial behind it.  That's something I could see probably fitting there.  So you'll have 
the retail kind of covering that part of it.  But then we diversify our revenues by having 
two -- two types of businesses there.  
DAVIS:  (Indiscernible) but this particular thing is like an incubator for small shops that 
have space where they, like, share.  (Indiscernible).  
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e-commerce a lot.  We have 95 percent built out,  right.  So we've been buying up some 
of these properties because we have to, and then to maximize revenue, we're trying 
different ways to bring in that one would be something like that behind an actual retail 
spot.  So yeah.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  E-commerce would be amazing.  Yes, Pilar? 
SINAWI:  Mayor, Members of Council, also an idea.  I think I've shared just with 
everyone already that my daughter is playing club volleyball, and I never realized how 
much money goes into hosting tournaments.  Just the sheer volume of teams that are 
played to play at a facility.  I think Randy shared with me that teams are paying about 
$900 a team to show up to a facility to play.  And depending on how many games you 
can host at the same time, multiply that by 20, 30 teams at a time, and that's just on 
one weekend.  And then, these tournaments are held, you know, the majority of the 
time.  There's opportunity, you know, for it to be an opportunity for the city to, you 
know, have a return on their investment to eventually get the money back in that 
investment.   
And there's flexibility for you know, some kind of indoor court facilities.  That would be 
not only, you know, volleyball, but basketball, whatever is indoor.  But there's a very 
high demand for club.  And there is nothing in the West Valley right now.  The closest 
thing we have is the Avondale Sports Complex, and it's small inside.  That's more 
recreational.  We have the recreational already with our parks and recreation 
department, but this could be an opportunity on the club side to be able to bring in a lot 
of revenue and the potential to, you know, bring a lot of people into the community as 
well.   
GAMEZ:  That could support the retail on the frontage.  
DAVIS:  (Indiscernible), but it's just crazy.  So there is a high demand for that, that type 
of use.  So. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I like that idea also for -- to repurpose the current warehouse.  
DAVIS:  Yeah.   Yeah.  
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We can repurpose that too.  
ERIVES:   Right.  Temporary too.  Doesn't always have to be permanent.   
[CROSS TALK] 
DAVIS:  Volleyball, soccer --  
ERIVES:  Uh-huh.  
DAVIS:  Sports are (indiscernible)     
ERIVES:  And indoor because it's hot.  
EARP:  Thank you, Mayor, council.  So the next one is 9360.  Saguaro Manufacturing is 
what we call it next Tomales Guadalajara, the one we talked about earlier, your 
incubator.  I think Councilmember Chavita brought it up.  It could be a retail 
development opportunity.  And help the Van Buren corridor revitalization.  It is about 
5,000 square feet.  It's broken out like that.  Once we get it, we'll make it one lot, but, 
yeah, this could be a lot of different things.  We actually already have because, you 
know, people hear these things.  Well, it came to council, so we already have someone 
that wants to sell home furnishings, like a home goods there.  I've heard anything 
from -- yeah, so there's -- there's all there's already interest in it.  So it'll be interesting 
to see once we actually own it, you know, and do some cleanup and then put it out, see 
what comes back.  But I don't know if you have any questions on that one.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  (Indiscernible) they saw the sign?  
EARP:  Correct.   
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER 7:  (Indiscernible) Manufacturing? 
EARP:  No, it was just called Saguaro Manufacturing, the old -- that's what it was called.  
No, this was just to be just strictly home goods sales.  I'm just giving an example of 
someone that's already reached out to me.  
DAVIS:  (Indiscernible)   
[LAUGHTER] 
DAVIS:  But yeah, I think (indiscernible) 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Yes, Linda? 
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one.  It was a shopping center, and the stores started closing down.  So she took me into 
this one -- one area there where they had like a sales, different, different things on 
certain days.  They had everything for a dollar.  Another day they had $5 items.  You 
know, everybody would bring in stuff that they wanted to sell.  And on another day they 
had furniture, sofas and stuff like that.  New.  Not used.  New, new equipment.  And she 
says that they made money every single day.  There were people lined up to go into that 
thing.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Do you remember the name of it?  
LABORIN:  I'm sorry. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:   You remember the name of it?  
LABORIN:  It didn't have a name.  It was in the shopping center where -- where a big 
store used to be at.  And there were buildings, you know, around it, restaurants and 
everything.  But that one place I'm going, like, this is like a warehouse sale, like Amazon.  
They had a lot of stuff in there from Amazon.  And it was crazy.  It was crazy.  People 
were  -- carts full of stuff, you know, to go check out.  And it didn't -- I don't think they 
had -- they had the checkouts and it wasn't anything fancy, just very plain.  But they got 
a lot of people into that store.  If you knew the days that they were going to be selling 
stuff.  Hats, pants, shoes, everything.  Everything was in there.  It was crazy.  
EARP:  Some of these last ones are 9353 West Van Buren.  Fixations is in the front.  We 
have, we're developing a lease, as we speak, for the back piece and to be announced 
soon.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  That's three, by the way.  That's strike three, buddy. 
[LAUGHTER] 
ERIVES:  It's been barbecue.  It's been Beanie Express ---  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:   It's been a lot things.   
ERIVES:  It's just like --  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  It's all food. 
EARP:  So that's the property.  We've done a lot of work.  We redid the outside seating 
area covered in the back.  If you remember, the barbecue was.  We're doing some more

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this week.  And eventually, probably next fiscal year, we'll be looking at paving the 
parking lot.  So right now it's mill -- millings.  But yeah.  So we're excited that that one 
will be filled as well.   
And then, the last one, 9205 West Van Buren Street, a Ahuevo Cafe .  They've been 
doing very, very good.  They met -- we met with them about three weeks ago.  They're 
ready to expand.  So we took the building, chief building official, looking how they can 
expand into the parking lot in the back.  Because I guess in their weekends, they're 
about two- hour waits.  And so they're trying to look for two things.  They need more 
kitchen space, for sure.  And then they need, not only sitting, but they want to put some 
large parties back there.  And because right now they have to put them in the center of 
it.  And when it comes with large parties, they tend to stay a little longer.  And when you 
already have two-hour waits, it's tough to get people in and out.   
So it's definitely a good thing.  When they first came, I knew the concept would work 
because it was just different.  But yeah, it's not what I expected.  It's amazing.  And 
they're doing a great job.  And very good tenants.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Can you expand (indiscernible) 
EARP:  Yep.  So if you see, like, the red car, the white car.  So they can go back so many 
feet.  I mean they can go back further, but --  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  (indiscernible) 
EARP:  Yeah.  So right now all their employees park in the back.  Yep.  So anyway, that 
that was the last of it, but we thank you, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Members of Council.  We 
took notes.  So on various ones, we'll be coming back to you and then we'll look at 
bringing the core -- the definition core, what's allowed there and what -- and we have 
our own ideas and staff of what needs to be changed or what's outdated.  And we'll 
bring those up then.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Councilmember?  
GAMEZ:  Jason, did you ever consider maybe you did looking at the property, the RID 
property, I mean, that's there.  It's probably the only thing we don't own in that area.  
And it's -- it's next to the aquatic center.  It's next to Happy Town.  It's next --

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MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  (Indiscernible)   
GAMEZ:   Yeah.  Well, you said it.  That's just something to consider.  
EARP:  Yeah, we've considered it.  We've even got an appraisal on it.  We've talked to 
the -- I don't know if he's president or what his title is.   Director.  Obviously, they're -- 
the RID canal is there, right next to it.  it's not ideal that they want to move.  They did at 
least tell us, well, do you have a spot for us, kind of thing.  Nothing set in stone.  And 
then I don't know if there's anything we can do, as far as condemnation or not, but I'll 
leave that for Jon to answer.  But we definitely looked into it.  We approached them 
about it.  It was at first a hard no.  Now it's like, well, do you have another area we could 
go to.  So we're working on that.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Jason, this is a good opportunity.  We keep the faith a lot  
(indiscernible) there's those smaller wins (indiscernible). 
EARP:  Sure.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  (Indiscernible) Honestly, I'm excited.  I'm excited.  (Indiscernible).  
And I'm excited to hear that we have potential users of Saguaro.  Fixation (indiscernible) 
EARP:  The old Saguaro manufacturing.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Trying to figure out what I'm going to ask you about tomorrow.  So 
that's good.  Interest is growing.  The population is growing.  The core is becoming that 
much more popular with the Ahuevo and other restaurants in there.  So that's going to 
be more attention, and hopefully more interest.  So thank you very much.  
EARP:  Thank you, Mayor.  
CHAVIRA:  Thank you, Jason.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Thank you, Mayor.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Let's grab him back  his chair.  Okay.  We're going to move on to L, 
which is Community Events coming up.  So I'm going to kick it over to Parks and 
Recreation Director Babchuk.  
BABCHUK:  Thank you.  Mayor, Members of the Council.  Just want to kind of give you 
an update on our past third Friday, which happened this past Friday.  We had a great 
showing.  It was -- the theme of it was celebrating Black History Month.  We had a group

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of  Kawambe Omowale, the African drummers and dancers come out.  Did an amazing 
job.  Just how they presented themselves, and -- and their culture was amazing.   
And then we had Backdoor Funk, who just killed the show.  They just -- I mean, they had 
people going, and just invited everybody out to dance.  And I think this is one of the 
ones that, I mean, every walks of life came out and danced.  I mean, the dance floor 
was -- was packed the whole time.  So it was a really good turnout.   
Plenty of food vendors.  And I think adding more food vendors helped out.  I mean, pizza 
was all packed.  It was Lent Friday, so everyone was there, but we had plenty of food to 
go around, so it definitely was well received.   
Our next third Friday is March 20th, and we're incorporating our Easter event with that, 
and we're working with the VFW and Theo (ph.) with that.  So we'll have a good 
combination.  Easter Bunny will be out there giving out goodie bags and taking pictures 
with the families, and then looking at booking El Regreso for our entertainment.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Comments?  Questions?  Jason,  you have the floor.  
EARP:  Thank you, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Members of Council.  I just also want to remind 
you this Thursday is Tarleton (ph.) Talks.  I will have canjo. (ph.)  We have the -- the SBA 
coming out, talking about how to open a business, small business association.  We also 
have Arizona at Works coming and talking about employment, how residents can find 
employment.  And then, we'll also have Dress for Success out there.  So if someone is in 
need of either a suit, or a nice dress, or something for an interview, they'll be out there 
to discuss what they do and donate clothing to people that need something to wear.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  You had a question, Vice Mayor. 
DAVIS:  I just wanted to commend the staff who put together the third Friday 
entertainment.  I thought I thought it was exceptional.  It was perfect for Black History 
Month.  It was very culturally appropriate.  So great job.  Just great job to your staff for 
putting that together and highlighting, you know, various cultures, because I think that 
that is one of the, you know, main tenets of TIA  is highlighting art and culture.  So good 
job.  
BABCHUK:  Thank you, Vice Mayor.

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MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  (Indiscernible) 
DAVIS:  (Indiscernible) 
[LAUGHTER] 
BABCHUK:  You did a good job, Vice Mayor.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  (Indiscernible) Pilar? 
SINAWI:  Mayor, members of council, thank you.  On that note, with the third Fridays, I 
think that it's been a phenomenal shift from the city, you know, to focus on the third 
Fridays, because it's allowed the opportunity to streamline even our special events, 
where we're able to, you know, really focus on TIA, yes, the culture and arts, but we're 
celebrating more cultures intentionally through our third Fridays.   
I know, like, one of the bigger changes this year, you know, will be in the fall with the 
third Fridays, like having our Veterans Day be part of the third Fridays.  It's going to 
allow, you know, just a lot of pros, as far as like having our veterans have a night to 
celebrate with their families.  It'll be dedicated to them.  And then, instead of doing our 
Veterans Day during the day, they'll have the flexibility to go other places because I 
know that they've always been torn.   
So the third Fridays has really allowed, you know, the opportunity for us to even 
celebrate more while streamlining our events.  So it was a great move on the council's 
part, and Randy and his team.  
ERIVES:  I just wanted to say Third Friday was fantastic, exceptional, phenomenal, like 
you all had mentioned.  I had a particular family who came up.  We were talking.  
Because of the Third Fridays -- they're not residents of Tolleson.  They just -- their 
daughter loves music.  And so as different bands have been coming to perform, she's 
excited, she's dancing, she's loving the music. The families, they come from the State of 
Washington, so they come down during winter time.  She says they're not snowbirds, 
they're rain birds.  So they get a lot of rain over there.  So they come here to the dry.  
But she just said that she felt so welcomed within our community, that their daughter 
has made new friends, and that the dancing, and then just bringing the different types 
of music.  So the daughter loves all kinds of music.  Love her.

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So she's like rocking and rolling, and yet she's -- she's dancing to cumbia.  She's learning 
all these different cultures while she comes to dance.  And I know why we're here, 
right?  We love Tolleson.  But it was so beautiful to hear a family that kind of wants to 
adopt Tolleson and part -- be part of that family that comes out because of Third 
Fridays.   
So it was a really great to hear that.  So great job, staff, because again, they  --  
they --  they're ready for the next one.  They're ready for the next one.  So thank you.  
Thank you.  Yeah I'm ready for the next one too because the band was magnificent.  
They were, yes.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Good.  Well, that's all really good information.  I look forward to 
the next one as well.  We are going to now move into AM, which is our executive 
session.  So now is the time for council to convene into executive session.  We are asking 
members of the public and those that are not involved in this executive session, to 
please exit the meeting at this time.  The only action item after the executive session 
will be to adjourn and go home.  So thank you for coming.  We will see you folks.  And 
I'm going to call a five-minute recess.   
 
 
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ARIZONA, HELD ON FEBRUARY 24, 2026. I FURTHER CERTIFY THAT THE MEETING WAS 
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