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TOLLESON CITY COUNCIL MEETING ACTION MINUTES 
TOLLESON CIVIC CENTER 
9055 WEST VAN BUREN STREET, TOLLESON, AZ 85353 
ZOOM WEBINAR ID: 840 6967 9194 
TUESDAY, MARCH 25, 2025 
6:00 PM 
Doors open to Council Chambers at 5:45 PM for public seating. The public may be asked to 
temporarily relocate if an executive session occurs. The public will be invited back into Council 
Chambers when the Council returns from executive session.  
 
Members of the public may also participate in the meeting via Zoom Webinar 
(https://us02web.zoom.us/w/84069679194) with a computer or cell phone. 
  
A. 
CALL TO ORDER 
 
Mayor Rodriguez called the Tolleson City Council Meeting to order at 6:00 PM. 
 
B. 
INVOCATION/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE 
 
The Invocation was delivered by City Attorney Pierce, and the Pledge of Allegiance was 
led by Council Member Laborin.  
C. 
ROLL CALL 
 
City Council: Mayor Juan Rodriguez, Vice Mayor Jimmy Davis, Council Members Christine 
Chavira, Clorinda Erives, Adolfo Gámez, Linda Laborin and Cruzita Mendoza. 
Council Member Cruzita Mendoza arrived at 7:47 PM. 
 
Department Directors: City Manager Reyes Medrano Jr., Deputy City Manager/Employee 
Resources Director Wendy Jackson, Deputy City Manager/Chief Government Affairs 
Officer Pilar Sinawi, Chief Financial Officer Kevin Artz, Chief Preparedness Officer George 
Good, Chief Technical Officer Steve Holliday, City Clerk Crystal Zamora, Development 
Services Director Jason Earp, Field Operations/Parks & Recreation Director Randy 
Babchuk, Fire Chief Michael Young, Library Director Mandy Carrico, Public Safety 
Director/Police Chief Rudy Mendoza and Utilities Director Jamie McCracken.  
 
City Representative: City Attorney Justin Pierce 
D. 
FINAL CALL TO SUBMIT SPEAKER REQUESTS 
 9055 W. Van Buren St., Tolleson, AZ 85353 • (623) 936-7111 • TTY users, dial 711 for Relay • www.tolleson.az.gov

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All citizens and interested parties wishing to speak before the Council regarding non-
agenda items or during a public hearing shall fully complete a Speaker Request Form and 
submit the form(s) to the City Clerk prior to the meeting being convened. Citizens must 
complete one form for each item they want to address. Speaker Request Forms are located 
at the entrance of the Council Chambers. For Zoom participants, click the chat button, and 
enter your name and the item you would like to address. Submissions should be made no 
later than the Mayor announcing the “Final Call to Submit Speaker Requests”. All speakers 
will be limited to 3 minutes unless otherwise noted by the Mayor. Speakers are not 
required to disclose their identities or personal information. You may also submit an online 
speaker request form at https://www.tolleson.az.gov/speakerrequest at least one hour 
prior to the meeting. 
E. 
CALL TO THE PUBLIC (NON-AGENDA ITEMS) 
 
This is the time for the public to comment on non-agenda items. Members of the Council 
may not discuss items that are not specifically identified on the agenda. Therefore, 
pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.01.H, action taken as a result of public comment will be limited 
to (1) responding to criticism; (2) directing staff to review the matter; or (3) asking that a 
matter be put on a future agenda. 
F. 
SCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCES AND PROCLAMATIONS – FOR DISCUSSION 
 
1. 
Proclamation declaring April 21-26, 2025 as Neurodiagnostic Week in the City of 
Tolleson, recognizing the vital role of neurodiagnostic technologists in diagnosing, 
treating, and monitoring neurological conditions. The Tolleson community honors 
their dedication to advancing patient care and remains committed to supporting 
excellence in neurological healthcare. – Anna Costina, President of AZ ASET  
 
Mayor Rodriguez proclaimed April 21-26, 2025 as Neurodiagnostic Week in the City 
of Tolleson. 
 
2. 
Proclamation declaring March 2025 as American Red Cross Month in the City of 
Tolleson, recognizing the contributions of the American Red Cross and its volunteers 
in providing humanitarian aid, disaster relief, and emergency assistance to those in 
need. – Georgi Donchetz, American Red Cross Communications Manager  
 
Mayor Rodriguez proclaimed March 2025 as American Red Cross Month in the City 
of Tolleson. 
 
3. 
Introduction of New Employees:  
Development Services Department – Diego Padilla, Sr. Traffic Operator  
Utilities Department – Alejandro Padilla, Wastewater Operator  
Employee Recognition: 
Employee Resources Department – Daishawna Matthews, Employee Resources

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Specialist and Yareli Zavala, Employee Resources Specialist: Public Sector Human 
Resources Certified Professional (PSHRC) Designation 
G. 
BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR – PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ACTION ITEMS 
 
1. 
Public Hearing – Soliciting comments from interested parties in reference to 
establishing new fees as outlined in the proposed Citywide Fee Schedule for City 
services, permits, and licenses, pursuant to Arizona Revised Statutes § 9-499.15. 
 
The public hearing opened at 6:12 PM and closed at 6:19 PM. 
 
 
Council Action: Adopt/Deny Ordinance No. 615 N.S. of the Mayor and City Council of 
the City of Tolleson, Arizona, amending the Tolleson City Code, revised, by amending 
Chapter 2, Article 2-6, Section 2-6-5 - Court Fees and Charges; Chapter 5, Articles 5-1, 
and 5-4 through 5-8, Sections 5-1-8 - License Fees, 5-4-3 - Special Permit Fee, 5-5-8 - 
Fees, 5-6-21 - Fees, 5-7-17 - Fees, and 5-8-13 - Fees respectively; Chapter 7, Article 7-
3, Section 7-3-4 - Permit Application; Chapter 10, Article 10-3, Section 10-2-3 - Utility 
Bills; and Chapter 12, Articles 12-2, 12-4, and 12-5, Sections 12-2-24 - Filing Fees, 12-
4-169 - Site Plan Review and Building Permits, 12-4-170 - Filing Procedure and Fee 
Schedule, 12-5-16 - Site Plan Review and Development Fees, and 12-5-18 - Zoning 
Fees, respectively; providing for repeal of conflicting ordinances; and providing for 
severability. (Finance Department) 
 
Vice Mayor Davis moved to adopt Ordinance No. 615 N.S.; the motion was seconded 
by Council Member Laborin. The motion carried 6 to 0. 
Mayor Rodriguez – Aye  
 
Vice Mayor Davis – Aye   
Council Member Chavira – Aye 
Council Member Erives – Aye  
Council Member Gámez – Aye 
Council Member Laborin – Aye 
 
 
Council Action: Adopt/Deny Resolution No. 2595 of the Mayor and City Council of the 
City of Tolleson, Arizona, adopting the Consolidated Fee Schedule for City Services, 
Municipal Court Services, Field Services Fees, Fire Department Fees, Development 
Services Fees, Library Fees, Parks and Recreation Fees, Police Department Fees, Utility 
Department Fees, and any fees related to use of City facilities, permits, and licenses; 
providing for repeal of conflicting resolutions; providing for severability; and setting 
an effective date of April 25, 2025. (Finance Department) 
 
Council Member Gámez moved to adopt Resolution No. 2595; the motion was 
seconded by Council Member Chavira. The motion carried 6 to 0. 
Mayor Rodriguez – Aye  
 
Vice Mayor Davis – Aye   
Council Member Chavira – Aye

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Council Member Erives – Aye  
Council Member Gámez – Aye 
Council Member Laborin – Aye 
H. 
CONSENT AGENDA – ACTION ITEMS 
 
Items on the Consent Agenda are of a routine nature and are intended to be acted upon in 
one motion. Council Members may pull items from Consent if they would like them 
considered separately.  
 
1. 
Approve Regular City Council Meeting Minutes of February 25, 2025. (City Clerk 
Department) 
 
2. 
Approve Claims and Bills Report for the period of February 19, 2025 to March 18, 2025. 
(Finance Department) 
 
3. 
Approve the Employee Staffing Agreement between the City of Tolleson and 
Educational Services, LLC (ESI) for employee staffing services, and authorize the City 
Manager to execute and deliver said Agreement. The initial term shall be effective 
from April 1, 2025, through June 30, 2025, with a total amount of $50,000 for FY 25 
and the option for annual renewal upon mutual agreement of both parties. 
Additionally, approve and authorize the City Manager to enter into and execute the 
second Employee Staffing Agreement, as necessary, to facilitate the implementation 
and continuation of employee staffing services, with a total amount of $150,000 for 
FY 26. (Employee Resources Department) 
 
4. 
Approve Second Amendment to the Cooperative Purchasing Agreement between the 
City of Tolleson and CDW Government, LLC for Software Value Added Reseller 
Services, and authorize the City Manager to execute and deliver said Agreement. The 
City desires to amend the existing Agreement to increase the annual aggregate 
amount from $250,000 to $300,000 for additional services. (Information Technology 
Department) 
 
5. 
Approve the Fourth Amendment to the Cooperative Purchasing Agreement between 
the City of Tolleson and Pump Pro LLC for the purchase of goods, materials and/or 
services described in the Contract as vertical water pumps, maintenance, purchase 
and repair, and authorize the City Manager to execute and deliver said Agreement. 
The City and the Contractor wish to retroactively amend the Agreement to extend the 
term of the Agreement through November 18, 2025, and to increase the annual 
aggregate from $300,000 to $500,000 for additional goods, materials and/or services. 
(Utilities Department) 
 
6. 
Approve First Amendment to the Chemical Purchase Agreement between the City of 
Tolleson and PVS DX, Inc. for the purchase of chemicals for the Tolleson Wastewater 
Treatment Plant, and authorize the City Manager to execute and deliver said 
Agreement. The City desires to amend the existing Agreement to increase the annual

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aggregate amount from $200,000 to $500,000 for additional chemical purchases. 
(Utilities Department) 
 
7. 
Adopt Resolution No. 2596 of the Mayor and City Council of the City of Tolleson, 
Arizona, authorizing the City Manager to execute a Termination and Release of 
Development Agreement on behalf of the City; and providing for repeal of conflicting 
Resolutions. (Development Services Department) 
 
Council Member Gámez moved to approve Consent Agenda items 1. through 7.; the 
motion was seconded by Council Member Erives. The motion carried 6 to 0. 
Mayor Rodriguez – Aye  
 
Vice Mayor Davis – Aye   
Council Member Chavira – Aye 
Council Member Erives – Aye  
Council Member Gámez – Aye 
Council Member Laborin – Aye 
I. 
REGULAR AGENDA – ACTION ITEMS 
 
1. 
Approve/Deny the Job Order Master Agreement between the City of Tolleson and 
Achen-Gardner Construction, LLC for Job Order Contracting (JOC) Water/Wastewater 
Pipeline Utility and Infrastructure, and authorize the City Manager to execute and 
deliver said Agreement. The City shall pay the Contractor an annual aggregate amount 
not to exceed $1,500,000 for services. This Agreement shall remain in full force and 
effect until September 2, 2025. (Development Services Department) 
 
Council Member Gámez moved to approve the Job Order Master Agreement; the 
motion was seconded by Council Member Laborin. The motion carried 6 to 0. 
Mayor Rodriguez – Aye  
 
Vice Mayor Davis – Aye   
Council Member Chavira – Aye 
Council Member Erives – Aye  
Council Member Gámez – Aye 
Council Member Laborin – Aye 
 
2. 
Adopt/Deny Resolution No. 2597 of the Mayor and City Council of the City of Tolleson, 
Arizona, (1) providing for the sale and issuance of City of Tolleson, Arizona General 
Obligation Bonds, Series 2025 and for the annual levy of a tax for the payment of the 
bonds; (2) approving the form and authorizing the execution and delivery of the 
necessary agreements, instruments and documents related to the sale and issuance 
of the bonds; (3) delegating authority to the City Manager and the Chief Financial 
Officer of the City or their designees to determine certain matters and terms with 
respect to the foregoing; and (4) authorizing the taking of all other actions necessary 
to consummate the transactions contemplated by this resolution and ratifying all 
actions taken to further this resolution. (Finance Department)

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Council Member Chavira moved to adopt Resolution No. 2597; the motion was 
seconded by Council Member Laborin. The motion carried 6 to 0. 
Mayor Rodriguez – Aye  
 
Vice Mayor Davis – Aye   
Council Member Chavira – Aye 
Council Member Erives – Aye  
Council Member Gámez – Aye 
Council Member Laborin – Aye 
 
3. 
Adopt/Deny Ordinance No. 616 N.S. of the Mayor and City Council of the City of 
Tolleson, Arizona, prohibiting camping in designated public areas and providing 
penalties for violations; providing for repeal of conflicting ordinances; and providing 
for severability. (Police Department) 
 
4. 
Adopt/Deny Ordinance No. 617 N.S. of the Mayor and City Council of the City of 
Tolleson, Arizona, prohibiting the unauthorized removal, possession, or alteration of 
shopping carts; providing penalties for violations; providing for repeal of conflicting 
ordinances; and providing for severability. (Police Department) 
 
Vice Mayor Davis moved to table Ordinance No. 616 N.S. and Ordinance No. 617 N.S. 
to the June 10th City Council Meeting; the motion was seconded by Council Member 
Gámez. The motion carried 6 to 0. 
Mayor Rodriguez – Aye  
 
Vice Mayor Davis – Aye   
Council Member Chavira – Aye 
Council Member Erives – Aye  
Council Member Gámez – Aye 
Council Member Laborin – Aye 
J. 
WORK STUDY AND PRESENTATIONS – FOR DISCUSSION 
 
1. 
Discussion pertaining to a potential development on the property located at the 
southwest corner of 91st Avenue and McKinley Street. – Jason Earp, Development 
Services Director 
 
2. 
FY 2025 Second Quarter Update – Kevin Artz, Chief Financial Officer 
 
3. 
FY 2026 First Budget Work Study – Kevin Artz, Chief Financial Officer 
K. 
MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER’S REPORT OF CURRENT EVENTS – FOR DISCUSSION 
 
1. 
Community Events Update – Randy Babchuk, Field Operations/Parks & Recreation 
Director

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2. 
Council Update on National League of Cities Congressional City Conference on March 
10-12, 2025 in Washington, DC. 
L. 
CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION 
 
1. 
Motion to go into executive session. 
 
Vice Mayor Davis moved to convene into executive session at 8:15 PM; the motion 
was seconded by Council Member Erives. The motion carried 7 to 0. 
Mayor Rodriguez – Aye  
 
Vice Mayor Davis – Aye   
Council Member Chavira – Aye 
Council Member Erives – Aye  
Council Member Gámez – Aye 
Council Member Laborin – Aye 
Council Member Mendoza – Aye 
 
2. 
Convene into an executive session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03(A)(3) and (A)(4) to 
receive legal advice and discuss and consult with the City Attorney regarding a contract 
that is the subject of negotiations relating to a nonprofit organization.  
 
3. 
Convene into an executive session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03(A)(3) and (A)(4) to 
receive legal advice and discuss and consult with the City Attorney regarding a contract 
that is the subject of negotiations relating to joint use of school facilities and funding. 
M. RECONVENE INTO PUBLIC MEETING 
N. ADJOURNMENT 
 
Vice Mayor Davis moved to adjourn the Regular City Council Meeting; the motion was 
seconded by Council Member Gámez. The motion carried 7 to 0. 
Mayor Rodriguez – Aye  
 
Vice Mayor Davis – Aye   
Council Member Chavira – Aye 
Council Member Erives – Aye  
Council Member Gámez – Aye 
Council Member Laborin – Aye 
Council Member Mendoza – Aye 
 
The meeting was adjourned at 9:01 PM. 
Pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.01 and A.R.S. § 38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of 
the Tolleson City Council and to the general public that the Council of the City of Tolleson will 
hold a meeting open to the public. Council Members of the City of Tolleson will attend by 
telephone/video conference call.

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Note: The City Council of the City of Tolleson, by a duly passed motion, may vote in public session 
to adjourn to executive session on any agenda item in conformation with A.R.S. § 38.431.03 for 
legal advice from the City Attorney.  
 
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Caption (CC) button during the meeting.  
 
THE CITY OF TOLLESON ENDEAVORS TO MAKE ALL PUBLIC MEETINGS ACCESSIBLE TO 
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES. With at least two business days advance notice, 
accommodations can be provided at this meeting for individuals with vision, hearing and/or 
speech disabilities, including a transcriber, large print, an interpreter, an assistive listening 
device, etc. Please call the City Clerk at (623) 936-7111, or TTY users may dial 711 for Arizona 
Relay Service (AZRS), to request an accommodation to participate in this public meeting. The 
City will try its best to accommodate any last minute requests.  
 
LA CIUDAD DE TOLLESON SE ESFUERZA PARA HACER TODAS LAS REUNIONES PÚBLICAS 
ACCESIBLE PARA INDIVIDUOS CON DISCAPACIDADES. Con al menos dos días laborables de previo 
aviso, se pueden proporcionar adaptaciones en esta reunión para personas con discapacidades 
visuales, auditivas o del habla, incluido un transcriptor, letra grande, un intérprete, un 
dispositivo de asistencia auditiva, etc. Llame a la Secretaría Municipal al (623) 936-7111, o los 
usuarios de TTY pueden marcar 711 para el Servicio de Retransmisión de Arizona (AZRS), para 
solicitar un alojamiento para participar en esta reunión pública. La Ciudad hará todo lo posible 
para satisfacer cualquier solicitud de último minuto.

VENDOR NAME
AMOUNT
CHECK #
CHECK/PAYMENT DATE
CITY OF PHOENIX
535,080.60
183895
03/13/2025
CITY OF PHOENIX
417,776.40
183799
02/27/2025
ADAPTIVE ARCHITECTS INC
181,003.00
183793
02/27/2025
FSL HOME IMPROVEMENTS
174,483.02
183985
03/17/2025
BROWN AND CALDWELL
146,840.00
100305
02/26/2025
UNPLUGGED PERFORMANCE INC
139,890.00
183730
02/19/2025
AZ MUNICIPAL RISK RETENTION POOL P & C
127,701.80
183855
03/06/2025
BROWN AND CALDWELL
52,384.00
100305
02/26/2025
FSL HOME IMPROVEMENTS
49,087.60
183668
02/19/2025
CITY OF PHOENIX
48,958.71
183798
02/27/2025
BROWN AND CALDWELL
48,696.00
100305
02/26/2025
BROWN AND CALDWELL
45,760.00
100305
02/26/2025
SANDS MOTOR COMPANY, INC.
44,219.18
183953
03/13/2025
AZ PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL RETIREMENT SYSTEM
38,627.59
100354
03/11/2025
DON SANDERSON FORD INC
37,410.38
183952
03/13/2025
AZ PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL RETIREMENT SYSTEM
36,620.58
100322
02/28/2025
STRAIGHT ARROW CONTRACTING, LLC
34,771.07
183961
03/13/2025
Fiber Glass Systems LP
34,721.70
100309
02/26/2025
CITY OF AVONDALE
34,056.30
183859
03/06/2025
AZ PUBLIC SAFETY RETIREMENT, POLICE
33,208.01
100355
03/11/2025
AZ PUBLIC SAFETY RETIREMENT, POLICE
33,002.77
100323
02/28/2025
SOLENIS LLC
32,976.00
100380
03/14/2025
SAN TAN AUTO PARTNERS LLC
28,955.27
183950
03/13/2025
ASR CONSTRUCTION GROUP LLC
27,243.02
183885
03/13/2025
TYLER TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
27,031.70
183783
02/25/2025
AZ MUNICIPAL RISK RETENTION POOL P & C
26,629.63
183855
03/06/2025
AZ MUNICIPAL RISK RETENTION POOL P & C
26,449.87
183855
03/06/2025
SAN TAN AUTO PARTNERS LLC
24,904.28
183950
03/13/2025
STRAIGHT ARROW CONTRACTING, LLC
23,180.71
183961
03/13/2025
ASR CONSTRUCTION GROUP LLC
22,877.30
183885
03/13/2025
LYFT, INC.
21,781.97
100365
03/11/2025
WASTE CONNECTIONS OF ARIZONA
19,693.28
183806
02/27/2025
LYFT, INC.
19,021.70
100294
02/21/2025
CDW-GOVERNMENT INC
18,178.68
100349
03/07/2025
KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES, INC.
16,300.90
100361
03/11/2025
JACOBS ENGINEERING GROUP INC
15,990.00
100311
02/26/2025
CLARK ELECTRIC SALES INC
15,568.90
183751
02/25/2025
City of Tolleson
Checks Recorded
Check Dates: February 19, 2025 to March 18, 2025
PAYMENTS OVER $10,000

Metropolitan Life Insurance
15,057.73
183767
02/25/2025
TRAFFICADE SERVICE LLC
14,078.16
183886
03/13/2025
MATLICK ENTERPRISES INC
13,498.83
100371
03/11/2025
ARIZONA STATE TREASURER
12,847.61
183883
03/13/2025
MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE
12,648.87
183930
03/13/2025
VERIZON WIRELESS SERVICES LLC
11,660.72
184000
03/17/2025
KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES, INC.
11,643.50
100313
02/26/2025
LIBERTY PROCESS EQUIPMENT, INC.
11,527.18
183923
03/13/2025
CITY OF TOLLESON-MEDICAL
11,171.57
100289
02/21/2025
VERIZON WIRELESS SERVICES LLC
10,371.43
183732
02/19/2025
WEST YOST & ASSOCIATES INC
10,158.00
100382
03/14/2025

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MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Also we’re moving on to the -- now is the final time to submit 
speaker requests to the City Clerk.  All speakers will be limited to three minutes for 
comments only.   
Is this working, Crystal? 
ZAMORA:  It is now.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Okay.  Limit to three minutes for comments only.  Actions taken as 
a result of all the comments will be limited to one, responding to criticism; two, 
directing staff to review the matter; or three, asking that a matter be put on a future 
agenda.  City Clerk, do we have any final call speaker request forms at this time? 
ZAMORA:  We do not, Mayor. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  It is now call to the public. 
City Clerk, do we have any call to the public submissions?   
ZAMORA:  We do not.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All right.  Scheduled public appearances and proclamations.  I 
believe we have two of those -- maybe three.  Well, we have two.   
So first one is proclamation to declare April 21st through the 26th, 2025 as 
neurodiagnostic week in the City of Tolleson, recognizing the vital role in 
neurodiagnostic technologies and diagnosing, treating, and monitoring neurological 
conditions.  The Tolleson community honors their dedication to advancing patient care 
and remains committed to supporting excellence in neurological healthcare.  I believe 
we have Anna Costina, the president of AZ ASET to say a couple of words about the 
proclamation now.   
You have the podium.   
COSTINA:  I want to say thank you.  This means a lot to us.  There's neuro diagnostic 
technologies throughout the entire country, and we are uniting to bring awareness to 
what we do.  We take care of patients with neurological issues such as epilepsy, brain 
tumors, any type of brain -- I guess -- damage that you can get from accidents, and we 
want to make sure that more people hear about this, and hopefully none of you guys 
ever end up in our hands.  So thank you, Mayor.  We really appreciate it.

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MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  We have a comment.   
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Yes, question.  Anna? 
COSTINA:  Yes.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  So do you have a facility where you do this or do you go to 
other facility? 
COSTINA:  We have -- actually most major hospitals in the valley have a neurodiagnostic 
department -- not all of them.  I work for Barrow Neurological Institute.  We have 
another person who's not here yet.  She's going to be so sorry she missed this.  She 
works for Phoenix Children's Hospital.  Mayo Clinic has one, Banner -- a couple of the 
Banners have some.  Yes, St.  Joseph is where Barrow is so we have epilepsy monitoring 
units where we bring in patients and take them off their medications to monitor them 
for seven days to treat them for their epilepsy.  And at Barrow we also have a surgical 
program, where -- in the awesome case where we find where the seizure focus is, we're 
able to remove that focus and actually give them a life.  And just in case you guys didn't 
know, this Saturday, March 29th, we have Epilepsy Walk.  It is for the entire state of 
Arizona.  It is the local one here.  I will have a table there.  If any of you have nothing 
better to do on a Saturday morning by all means, come on by. 
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Thank you.   
COSTINA:  Thank you.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I do have a proclamation here on behalf of somebody who had a 
friend who had a brain tumor, and a mother-in-law who also had -- oh, they're both 
doing fine.  Thanks for all the research you all do.  But if we can, we'd like to get a 
picture with you.   
COSTINA:  I'd love that.  Thank you.  This is so awesome.   
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Yay. 
ZAMORA:  Ready?   
COSTINA:  Thank you.   
ZAMORA:  Thank you. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Thank you.

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COSTINA:  Thank you, Mayor.  We really appreciate it.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Fantastic.   
COSTINA:  Thank you.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All right.  Now, therefore, I, Mayor Rodriguez, do hereby proclaim 
April 21st through 26th as Neurodiagnostic Week in the City of Tolleson.  Be it 
proclaimed.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Mayor, may I?   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Yes. 
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Anna -- oh, she's walked out.  That's okay.  I just wanted to 
thank the organization for their work.  25 years ago, my daughter was diagnosed with 
epilepsy.  And there were no resources out there then like there are now, and it's so 
important and you don't know how important it is until you need it.  So I'm glad that 
we've taken this step to acknowledge that and thank them for their service.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Anybody else? 
All right.  We're going to move on to Item number 2.  We're going to proclaim declaring 
March 2025 as American Red Cross Month in the City of Tolleson, recognizing the 
contributions of American Red Cross and its volunteers providing humanitarian aid, 
disaster relief, and emergency assistance to those in need.  Georgi Donchetz.  Did I say 
that right?  Close?  No?  Okay.  American Red Cross Communications Manager.  So I'm 
just going to call -- you're standing up so you get to come up and talk.   
QUIJANO:  Hi, everyone.  My name is Jeff Quijano.  I'm Vice Chair of the Board for the 
Red Cross Central Arizona Chapter, and I have two board members here with me.  We 
just wanted to thank you for your support.  I'm sure everyone in the room knows about 
the partnership that our chapter has had with the City of Tolleson, and it -- you've given 
us the opportunity to roll out an initiative that is really in the early stages and will 
continue to evolve.  But I think what we've witnessed in our partnership with you is that 
-- that it works, that using the Red Cross's expertise in building disaster response 
infrastructure in cities is something worth investing in and it does work.  So I think it's -- 
of course we would say this but I think the American Red Cross is the most important

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humanitarian organization in the world and we're proud of our partnership with the City 
of Tolleson here in Phoenix Metro.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Thank you for your efforts.  I know that we have built a strong 
partnership. 
QUIJANO:  Absolutely.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  And so we look forward to continued partnership.   
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Under the alarm that we did when we installed 112 alarms 
into the neighborhood where we watch.  And yeah.  It was super humbling, right?  
Because you're going into homes.  Many of the alarms that were in there are no longer 
working.  And then we had a new family that had just moved into the home that they 
bought and there were no alarms in there.  So they -- and we gave them the escape plan 
so that was -- like, it was a very humbling experience but you realize the focus.  You 
know?  Especially because maybe nine months ago there was that big fire in the trailer 
parks on 43rd Avenue so -- it was just a wonderful experience.  Yes.  Yes.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Thank you all for doing that.   
This time I'm going to do it right.  I'm going to proclaim it and then we're going to take a 
picture if that's okay.   
QUIJANO:  Of course.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Now therefore I'm Mayor Rodriguez do hereby proclaim March 
2025 as American Red Cross Month in the City of Tolleson.  Be it proclaimed. 
QUIJANO:  All right.  Now let's take a picture. 
ZAMORA:  Thank you.  Perfect. 
QUIJANO:  Thank you.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Okay.  Number 3.  I'm going to turn over to our City Manager.  It's 
the introduction of new employees.  We have a number of employees, but I know our 
City Manager will be moving forward introducing or introducing the Director of that 
Department.   
MEDRANO:  I will.  Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of Council. 
This list is comprised of new employees, employees who've been promoted, or achieved

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certain recognitions or certification.  So we'll start with Traffic Operator Diego Padilla 
who apparently is a starting third basemen -- he's not here -- for the Tolleson 
Wolverines in high school.  Oh good.  He's online so -- I was told that he played baseball 
for the Wolverines which was always an aspiration of mine and we have a few 
Wolverines in the room I know that that did play.  So welcome Diego. 
And then Wastewater Operator Alejandro Padilla.  I asked both of them if they were 
part of the Padilla family we grew up with here but they are not.  But maybe -- you know 
-- you never know.   
And then employee recognition.  For those that were here 20 years ago when Wendy 
Jackson started as a Director of Human Resources, you recall the challenge she had to 
bring that department into this century.  She's done an incredible job and has built a 
team that is simply unrivaled.  So with that, receiving their Public Sector Human 
Resources Certified Professional designations are Daishawna Matthews, and Yareli 
Savala of our Employee Relations Department.  So congratulations.  I'm proud to be 
down the hall from them.  They're the first people we see when we come in, and it's 
always a reminder of how lucky we are to be here.  So thank you all very much. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  As always, I'd just like to welcome all the new employees.  Here in 
Tolleson, we're like a family.  So if you've been here for a while, we embrace you, we 
look forward to you being here.  We as Council take your work very serious.  We have 
external candidates -- or external customers which are residents and people that visit 
Tolleson and then we have our own internal customers as well which is all of our 
employees.  So just know that if you're entering brand new, you're entering into a great 
organization that puts their employees first.  And every employee puts the service of 
their community first as well.  So it's a win-win recipe that has worked for Tolleson since 
its inception so thank you and welcome.   
All right.  We're going to move on to G which is business from the floor.  Public hearings 
and Actions, Item number 1.  It's going to be a public hearing so any comments from 
interested parties in reference to establish new fees, as outlined in the proposed city fee 
schedule for city services, permits, and licenses pursuant to Arizona Revised Statutes,

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special series 9-499.15.  I will now open this public hearing and turn this over to CFO 
Artz.   
ARTZ:  Thank you, Mayor, Council.  So before you tonight are actually three items under 
this one item.  So the first is the public hearing.  The second item is an ordinance -- 
Ordinance Number 615 which would remove all of the fees from the City Code.  And 
then there's a Resolution 2595 which adopts a new fee schedule.   
So again, city fees are currently in the City Code and they're throughout the City Code 
numerous places, so there's not one document that has all of the City fees.  So the 
ordinance will remove all references to city fees in the Code.  The Resolution then 
establishes a fee -- a citywide fee schedule, and included in the new fee schedule are 
some new fees that were not in place previously.  So I just wanted to go over a few of 
those, so that you have a good understanding of what we're adopting here.   
So Ordinance 615 removes Chapter 2, Chapter 5, Chapter 7, 10, and 12.  All of the fees 
are coming out of the Code for those for the Ordinance.  And then the Resolution adds 
the Citywide fee schedule.  Again, the benefit of this is it's all fees are in one place, one 
document, so if we wanted to know what the fees are, there would just be one 
document.  You wouldn't have to search all through the Code to find it.   
Going forward the Citywide fee schedule will be part of the budget process.  So every 
year when we adopt the budget, there'll be a fee resolution included in there so that the 
fees will be updated every year with the budget.  And then, as I mentioned, there's 
some new fees that are being added as part of the Resolution.   
So in Development Services, there's some new fee for zoning verification letters, 
actually oriented business application fees -- there's some new fees for that -- special 
permit fees, credit card fees.  So the Development Services Department is going to start 
accepting credit cards for some of the large permits, but we want to be able to pass on 
the credit card fees for doing that.   
In Fire, they're adding some firework fees.  And Fire we really didn't have a lot of fees 
before, so all of these fees are new, but we're adding fees for fireworks and when 
they're going out and looking at -- you know -- one of those retail establishments or the

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tents and doing their inspections of that, there will be a fee for that now.  They're 
adding operational permits, hazardous materials, and fire staffing.  And I know the Fire 
Chief may want to add some to this once I'm done here.  
Library -- we're adding the passport fees, so this is a new service that the City is 
providing so we're providing passport services.  So this will establish the fees for those 
services that we're providing for passports. 
And then Parks and Recreation has some staffing fees, so when they have staff for an 
event, it's establishing the fees so that we can pass those along to other -- to the users.  
State Statute does require a few things when we're establishing new fees so ARS 9-
499.15 requires that we post this on the City website for 60 days, so that's been done.  It 
requires that we publish it in the newspaper.  That has also been done, and the City has 
also prepared a schedule and a written justification of all those fees and that's included 
in your packet as well.   
So with that, staff recommends that Mayor and Council hold the public hearing, and 
then you would adopt Ordinance 615 which removes the fees, and then you would 
adopt Ordinance 2595 which would establish the new fees in that city-wide fee 
schedule.  With that, staff is available if you have any questions or if the Fire Chief 
wanted to add anything.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Presentation.  I want to turn it over to Council.  Do we have any 
questions?  I know I have some comments.  I reviewed the fee schedule and it looks like 
they're pretty much in market rate with fellow -- other cities in the West Valley, 
including the bigger city to the east.  And so I think we're in line with what other 
organizations would charge their residents or clients.  Also, you mentioned the schedule 
that's going to come before us during the budget process.  If there are changes to that 
schedule, will those be called out during future years and budget processes?   
ARTZ:  Yes, Mayor.  So this would be the fee schedule for this year, but then next budget 
year, any fee that's amended or any new fee would be called out and would have to go 
through this process where we post it on the website for 60 days, and then we would 
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MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Also, it keeps us from incrementally just adding more fees over 
time and this way there's some checks and balances and I think that would be great.  
Any other comments or any other questions?   
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  I think it's far more user friendly.  So if I'm a member of the 
public I can go to one place and know what all the fees are as opposed to having to 
search different pages and search for a specific fee so I like that idea and this is much, 
much better. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Awesome.  All right.  Well with that, I think you're off the hook.  
ARTZ:  All right. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Well, we still have -- do you have a question?  Well we still have a 
speaker from the public.  We have three minutes.  
City Clerk, do we have anybody from the audience that would like to speak on this 
public hearing?   
ZAMORA:  We do not, Mayor. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Once?  Twice?  This public meeting is closed.   
Now we move on to Council Option.  It's action to adopt or deny Ordinance Number 
615, a new series of Mayor, City Council of the City of Tolleson, Arizona amending the 
policy City Code revised by amending Chapter 2, Article -- well, it's a bunch of stuff -- 
Article 2-6, Section 265, core fees and charges, Chapter 5, Article 5-1 and 5-4, 5-8, 
section 5-1-8 license fees, and a bunch of other stuff.  So for repeal of conflicting 
ordinances and provide for severity.   
Also, does anybody have any comments at this time?  I will entertain a motion to 
approve or deny.  We have a motion to adopt?   
DAVIS:  Motion to adopt.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  We have a motion to adopt by Councilmember Davis.  We have a 
second from Councilmember Laborin.  All those in favor.  All those in favor please signify 
by saying aye. 
ALL:  Aye. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All those opposed.  Okay.  That long motion passes unanimously.

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Thank you very much, CFO Artz. 
So now we move on to the Resolution.  So the Mayor of the City -- I think I was going to 
read this one.  It doesn't have small lettering -- City Council, Resolution number 2595.  
The Mayor, City Council of the City of Tolleson, Arizona, adopt or deny the consolidated 
fee schedule for city services, municipal court services, field services, fees, Fire 
Department fees, development service fees, library fees, Parks and Recreation fees, 
Police Department fees, Utility Department fees, and any fees related to the use of city 
facilities, permits, and licenses providing a repeal of conflicting resolutions, providing 
severity, and setting an effective date of April 25th, 2025.   
Council, any questions at this time?  I will entertain a motion.   
GAMEZ:  Mr. Mayor, I move that we adopt resolution number 2595. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Okay.  We have a motion by Councilmember Gamez.  Do we have 
a second? 
CHAVIRA:  Second.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  We have a second by Councilwoman Chavira.  All those in favor, 
please signify by saying aye. 
ALL:  Aye.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All those opposed.  Not hearing any.  Motion passes unanimously.  
Thank you, everybody.   
We're going to move on to Item H, which is a Consent Agenda Action Item.  I see Items 1 
through 7 for consideration.  These are items that should have been reviewed in your 
packet and at this Council meeting, we can ask questions.  We can do whatever we need 
to as far as those items, but if you are in agreement with Item 1 through 7, I will also 
entertain a motion to approve them all in one move. 
GAMEZ:  I'll make that motion, Mr. Mayor. 
ERIVES:  Second.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  So we'll make a motion.  Councilmember Gamez, we have a 
second by Councilwoman Erives.  All those in favor of passing or approving the Consent 
Agenda Action Item, Item 1 through 7, please signify by saying aye.

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ALL:  Aye.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All those opposed?  Again, not hearing any.  Motion passes 
unanimously.  Thank you very much. 
Moving on to Regular Agenda Action Item.   
It's time for a minute break.  Promise it's just water.  I heard a story about a cruise and 
you're not allowed to take certain chemicals or liquids onto the cruise -- only bottled 
water.  Starts going to purify.  This is truly H2O. 
All right.  Regular Agenda Action Items.  Item number 1, approve or deny the job order 
master agreement between the City of Tolleson and Achen-Gardner Construction, 
LLC for job order contracting JOC, wastewater, pipeline, utilities, and infrastructure and 
authorize the City Manager to execute and deliver said agreement.  The City shall pay 
the contractor an annual aggregate amount not to exceed $1.5 million for services.  This 
agreement shall remain in full force and effect until September 2nd of 2025.   
Development Services Utility Director McCracken.  Is there a discussion or presentation?   
MCCRACKEN:  Yes.  Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of Council.  It's a fairly 
straightforward project.  We have a water facility at the corner of 97th Avenue and 
Roosevelt.  And currently there's a large tank there, and there's no established drain 
right now if there was to be a catastrophic failure of the tank.  And so we needed to 
plumb and install a line that's going to connect to our storm sewer over closer to Van 
Buren.  So this project would put in that line essentially from the facility all the way to 
our connecting storm sewer.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  A requirement.  So any questions for Mr. McCracken at this time?  
Not seeing any.  Okay.  I will entertain a motion. 
GAMEZ:  So moved.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All right.  We have a motion by Councilmember Gamez to 
approve.  And I have a second by Councilwoman Laborin to second the item.  All those 
in favor, please signify by saying aye.   
ALL:  Aye. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All those opposed.  Awesome.  Motion passes unanimously.  Mr.

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McCracken, you have the money for the pipe.   
MCCRACKEN:  Thank you.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Number 2, adopt or deny Resolution number 2597 of the Mayor 
and the City Council of the City of Tolleson, Arizona.  Number 1, providing for the 
sale and issuance of City of Tolleson, Arizona general obligation bonds, series two of 
2025, and for the annual levy of a tax for the payment of the bonds.  Number 2, 
approving the form and authorizing the execution and delivery of the necessary 
agreement, instrument, and documents related to the sale and issuance of the bonds.  
Number 3, delegating authority to the City Manager and the Chief Financial Officer of 
the City of Tolleson of the City or their designee to determine certain matters in terms 
with respect to the foregoing.  And number 4, authorizing the taking of all of other 
actions necessary to consummate the transactions contemplated by this resolution and 
ratify all actions taken to further this resolution.   
Finance Director Artz, you have the floor sir. 
ARTZ:  Thank you, Mayor and Council.  Before you tonight is Resolution 2597.  It is 
authorizing the bonds -- the general obligation bonds for the Aquatic Center. 
Tonight we have Paul Gales here who is our bond counsel and Mark Reader with Stifel 
who is the underwriter on this transaction.   
So back in 2020 -- November the 3rd, 2020, the voters approved a bond election for $21 
million of general obligation bonds to construct an aquatic facility or Parks and 
Recreation amenities.  The City has purchased the land for the Aquatic Center and 
entered into a design contract for the facility.  The budget has increased.  The estimated 
budget is now at $32 million, and so additional funding is coming from a $1 million 
private donation.  And then in the next budget year, in fiscal year '26, we're allocating 
$10 million of fund balance towards this project.  So $21 million worth of bonds, the $1 
million dollar private donation, and $10 million of fund balance gets us to a budget of 
$32 million for the Aquatic Center.  And as I mentioned, Stifel is serving as underwriter 
on this transaction.   
So the Resolution provides for the sale and issuance of the bonds, but it also approves

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several agreements and documents that are included in your packet.  It also delegates 
authority to the City Manager and the CFO to determine terms, rates, maturities of the 
bonds.  And the reason for that is once we sell the bonds, you basically have 24 hours to 
get all the documents signed and everything done.  So we wouldn't have time to bring 
all of that back to Council, so you're delegating to the City Manager or myself to just sign 
some of those final documents.  And then it authorizes and ratifies all the actions 
taken to consummate the sale of the bonds.   
So some of the documents that are included in your packet.  The preliminary official 
statement, this is the offering document that goes out to the investors, so it includes a 
lot of financial information on the City demographics.  Basically, it provides 
information so that the investors can make an informed decision on whether they want 
to buy or purchase our bonds.  So the City, along with Stifel and Mark Reader, put this 
document together.  It is our responsibility to make sure it's correct and everything in 
there is accurate.   
There's also a continuing disclosure agreement.  This outlines the City's 
responsibilities in providing ongoing financial data.  So once the investors purchase 
these bonds, they want to see financial data going forward, so they may purchase a 
bond that's 20 years out.  They want to be able to see our financial statements and any 
information, so it's a document that we agree to provide certain information.  We also 
agree if there's certain items occur over the next 15 or 20 years, such as a ratings 
change, or if we were in default on our bonds, that we would have to disclose that 
information on a website so that all of the investors would know.  So it's a document 
that requires quite a bit of information from the City.   
There's a bond purchase agreement.  This agreement would be with Stifel acting as the 
underwriter to purchase the bonds from the City.  So they will actually be purchasing 
the bonds, and then they'll be turning around and selling those to the end investors that 
would ultimately purchase them.   
And then the bond register paying agent agreement.  It's an agreement to help 
facilitate the registration of the bond ownership so that the City doesn't have to keep

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track of who owns the bonds.  There would be a vendor that would track all of that 
information.   
So those are all the documents that are included in the Resolution and that you're 
approving tonight or that we're asking you to approve tonight.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All right.  Is that the end of the presentation?   
ARTZ:  I have a little bit more.  Sorry.  So again, the Resolution is also delegating 
authority to the City Manager and the CFO just to be able to determine date, the 
principal amounts of the bonds cannot exceed $21 million.  That's the maximum 
amount.  To determine maturity dates not to exceed 25 years;  interest rates based on 
the bids from the investors, so we'll determine what the interest is as the bids come in 
from investors.  If there's any call dates, sales date, pricing, closing costs, all of those 
things then will be delegated to the Manager and myself to determine as we go 
forward.   
As far as the budget, the bonds have been programmed into the budget for two years.  
The repayment source on this is secondary property taxes, and we are projecting that 
the combined property tax rate -- so the primary and the secondary rate -- will not 
increase.  And it's actually going to go down very slightly, but we're able to issue these 
bonds and not have a property tax rate increase, so we're able to maintain the rate and 
still provide the amenity to the community.   
So with that, staff recommends that Mayor and Council adopt the Resolution 
2597, providing for the sale and issuance of $21 million of general obligation bonds, and 
staff is available if you have any questions.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I will turn it over to Council for any comments or questions.   
Well, I'll start off.  I have a comment.  We have a design firm.  We have a construction 
company.  I think we have a final design.  We have authorization to purchase the 
bonds, and we have excess income to cover the difference between the $21 million 
bonds and the $30 million price tag.  This building aquatic facility, I'm very excited. 
I've been waiting for this for a very long time, and I think the residents of Tolleson have 
been waiting for it.  They deserve it, and our kids will know how to swim, and someday,

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hopefully, God willing, we'll have a Tolleson Olympian and another one for swimming or 
something.  But it all starts with building that pool, so I'm very excited.  And hopefully 
the rest of the Council is excited as well.   
ERIVES:  Just to add to that, the taxes, right?  So I'm going to get something within my 
community to swim, to exercise, to have a great time with, and yet I'm not going to feel 
like I can't go swimming anymore because I have to pay the taxes for it.  So it's a win-win 
for our community.  I'm excited.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  It doesn't fall off the reality that a property -- you're selling $21 
million bonds and secondary taxes and the residents not really going to feel an 
impact more than they're already feeling.  None of us are ignorant to think that that just 
happened by accident.  We know that you and your staff have worked hard with that.  
City staff have worked hard to make that happen, and so on behalf of the 
residents, we're very thankful for that, so thank you.   
Councilmember Gamez.   
GAMEZ:  Yes.  Can the public -- regular John Blow out there -- buy bonds?   
ARTZ:  Mayor, Councilmember Gamez, I think they can, and I'll probably turn that over 
to Mark on how -- if a private individual can bid on the bonds.   
READER:  Thank you, Mr. Artz.  Mr. Mayor, members of the Council.  Good evening, 
Mark Reader with Stifel, and we're very pleased to have the opportunity to work 
with you on this exciting project.   
With regard to your question, could residents of the City of Tolleson, if they were 
interested, purchase the City of Tolleson bonds?  And the answer to that is yes.  We do 
our best when we're selling the bonds, if someone in the community is interested, to 
contact our office and we will do everything within our means to allocate bonds to local 
residents;  so no promises, but that's something that we really try to accommodate 
for you.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  That's great.   
READER:  Thank you, sir.  Thank you very much.   
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ERIVES:  Is there a minimum investment amount?   
READER:  Mr. Mayor, members of the Council.  Excellent question.  Probably minimum 
of $5,000.  You know, we certainly could accommodate that if somebody wanted.  The 
interest income, as you all know, is exempt from federal and state taxation, so we like 
that.  The interest rates will be very low, so when they hear how low the interest rate is 
-- hopefully.  Knock on wood, right?  We like low interest rates.  They may say no, but 
that being said, we're glad to offer them up to them.  Thank you very much. 
ERIVES:  Thank you.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Awesome.  Thank you for that answer.   
I do have a question for staff, but I think this is something that we can do on the back 
end.  I would like to know what percentage of residents don't have pools in Tolleson.  
And again, this is something that we can look into and get an answer down the road, but 
I think building an aquatic facility for a community that, quite honestly, I think at least 
for my family, nobody in Tolleson -- and we have 10 households -- has a pool.  And so I 
think it's a very important and needed amenity that we have for a long time in 
partnership with the high school, and it just disappeared overnight.  I think we're 
correcting a wrong and providing a service to the Tolleson residents that is really, highly 
needed.   
ARTZ:  Absolutely.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  So I think it's a win-win.  
GAMEZ:  I agree.   
ARTZ:  Members of the Council, based on just my empirical observation over the years, I 
can think of three houses in Tolleson that I remember having pools, two of which have 
been filled.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  We have put irrigations up every two weeks.   
ARTZ:  That's pretty easy.   
GAMEZ:  We had a pool growing up.  It's called the R.I.D. 
ARTZ:  And it's still there.   
GAMEZ:  Exactly.

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ARTZ:  It's amazing. 
GAMEZ:  Actually the high school was our swimming spot.  You know?  And if you were 
lucky enough to have a quarter, it was cool.  If you didn't, R.I.D.  Simple as that.  Thank 
you.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Go ahead Councilmember Davis.   
DAVIS:  I will say I'm excited.  I'm eager to get this built so we can open it up for our 
community and I can do a cannonball into the pool.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Yeah, you heard it here.  Vice Mayor Davis will do the first 
cannonball.   
ERIVES:  I'll hold you to it.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Summer first, right?   
All right.  Well, with that, I will entertain a motion.   
ERIVES:  I make a motion to adopt the sale of bonds to accomplish the building of our 
first aquatic center.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All right.  I have a first from Councilmember Erives.   
ERIVES:  Motion.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Thank you.  It's getting late.  And we have a second from 
Councilwoman Laborin.  And so all those in favor of building a new Tolleson pool and 
passing this item, please signify by saying aye.   
ALL:  Aye.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All those opposed, say R.I.D.  No, I'm just kidding.  All right.  
Everybody said yay, so we're building a pool, sir.  Thank you very much.   
ARTZ:  Thank you, Mayor. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Thank you folks for your service.   
All right, Item number 3.  Adopt or deny Ordinance Number 616, new series of the 
Mayor and City Council of the City of Tolleson, Arizona, prohibiting camping in 
designated public areas and providing penalty for violations, providing for repeal of 
conflicting ordinances, and providing for severity.  Turn it over to Chief Police.  Our 
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ARTZ:  Before the Chief, if I could, this is both Items 3 and 4 are on the agenda pursuant 
to your direction, and we're excited to report back to Council that we're ready to move 
forward on these critical tools.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Thank you.  Very critical. 
MENDOZA:  Good evening, Mayor and Council.  So should we go over both of them?  
Can we go over both?  We'll just cover both.  The first one is going to be for the urban 
camping ordinance -- or I think it's referred to as the anti-camping.  We do currently 
have an urban camping ordinance in the City of Tolleson.  There was a Supreme Court 
case.  I think it was surrounding whether or not it was violating the 14th 
amendment and it was found that it does not.  And so that started this kind of 
trend where cities were rewriting their ordinances and this kind of brings ours up more 
to date and it falls in line with what other cities are doing.  And I know Justin and his 
group did a good job of kind of mirroring what's been going on around the valley and 
probably around the country.  So the anti-camping ordinance basically has two 
parts that would be considered violations or the prohibited acts.  It shall be unlawful for 
any person to camp in on or a public street, alley, sidewalk, rights of way, park, preserve 
or other public ground owned, possessed or controlled by City except as permitted 
under subsection 5.  And part B is it shall be unlawful for any person to camp on or 
within 500 feet of a parcel where a school, childcare facility, shelter, or city park is 
located if reasonable notice of camping prohibition is provided except as permitted 
under subsection 5;  and subsection five basically states that if the Parks and Rec 
director is coordinating an event -- so let's say, like, some students are going to sleep 
in at the -- you know -- set up tents to be at the park for whatever reason that that is 
allowable and would not be in violation of the statute.  That's the easiest example I can 
give.   
The second ordinance is a shopping cart ordinance.  It says a person shall not do any of 
the following with the intent to temporarily or permanently deprive the owner or 
retailer possession of a shopping cart.  And then it goes on to talk about removing 
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shopping cart that belongs to another retailer, removing serial numbers, leaving 
abandoned carts that belong to retailers in the City of Tolleson, or convert or 
tamper any of the parts on the shopping cart for personal use.  Both of these would be 
Class 1 misdemeanors, which typically for Tolleson Police Department, when we're 
talking about a class of misdemeanors, it's usually a citation, which gives the person a 
notice to appear in court.  We typically do not arrest and book people for Class 1 
misdemeanors unless it is multiple offenses of the same type.  So for instance, 
shoplifting is the easiest example.  First time shoplifter, Class 1 misdemeanor, they 
usually get a citation, come to court.  You know?  Down the road we start getting into 
multiple times, then that's comes a time where we will actually book somebody. 
So on both of these ordinances, staff makes a recommendation to adopt and I'm open 
for any questions.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Comments?  I have a comment.   
DAVIS:  I have quite a few questions and comments, so get ready. 
MENDOZA:  And -- sorry.  Mayor and Council, I do have Marc Simmons here from 
Human Services, and I kind of put him on the spot about ten minutes ago and he agreed 
to help speak to probably some of the answers that you're looking for as far as what 
we're currently doing city-wise other than having this ordinance.   
DAVIS:  So I want to begin by acknowledging that homelessness is a widespread urgent 
issue, one that affects communities across our region and state and country.  It is 
complex.  There's no one-size-fits-all solution, and I understand the need to keep our 
public spaces safe accessible.  But we cannot legislate our way out of homelessness with 
criminal penalties.  This ordinance on urban campaign, though well-intentioned, risks 
putting a target on those who are already among the most vulnerable, people 
experiencing homelessness, mental illness, substance use disorder and poverty.  
Criminalizing their existence in public spaces doesn't solve the problem.  It simply moves 
it, delays it, and ultimately deepens it.  As policy makers, we must ask ourselves, are we 
treating the symptom or are we addressing the cause?   
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root of these challenges, not just the surface.  I have a bunch of them, you can answer 
them at the end.  What data or evidence do we have that criminalizing urban 
camping actually reduces homelessness in the long term?  How will this ordinance 
impact individuals who have nowhere else to go, especially if shelter space is limited or 
unavailable?  Can we discuss what investments we are making or plan to make in 
affordable housing, mental health care, and substance abuse support as part of a 
holistic solution?  How are we measuring success -- by how many people are connected 
to services or by how many are cited or displaced?  What safeguards will ensure this 
ordinance isn't disproportionately enforced against people with disabilities or mental 
illness?  How will we ensure that citations of arrests don't make it harder for 
individuals to access housing or employment later?  What community-based 
alternatives were considered before turning to criminal penalties?   
I believe we should invest in outreach, housing-first strategies, and real systems of 
care, not citations and jail time.  We should be engaging with people who lived through 
homelessness to shape better policy.  If we truly want lasting change, we must be 
compassionate leaders who will be willing to do the hard work of addressing root 
causes, not just passing ordinances that kick the can down the road.   
And in the same spirit of compassion and accountability -- and both at the same time, I'll 
do both -- I want to address the proposed ordinance on the carts as well, on the 
unauthorized possession of shopping carts.  On the surface, this may appear to be a 
matter of neighborhood cleanliness and retail protection, but in practice, this measure 
has the potential to further criminalize those experiencing homelessness, individuals 
who often use shopping carts as a means to carry their belongings, not to commit a 
crime.  Let's take a closer look at what this ordinance really does: makes possession of a 
cart outside of the store premises without written permission a Class 1 misdemeanor of 
the same level of offense as you mentioned earlier, shoplifting.   
So what problem are we trying to solve here?  How significant is it within our city?  Have 
we meaningfully engaged local retailers to understand their current practices and pain 
points around abandoned carts?  And really with the shopping cart thing -- you know -

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- I've seen some community members -- you know -- who are going to the food bank or 
whatever, pushing carts around.  So are they going to receive the same penalties?  If our 
goal is to create cleaner streets, let's also work towards creating more just and equitable 
policies.  It is our goal in public spaces.  Let's include public health and dignity in that 
vision.  As I said earlier, we must be leaders who address the root causes, not just the 
viable symptoms. That means investing in outreach, wraparound services, affordable 
housing, and mental health resources, not leaning on the criminal justice system to 
solve social problems it was never designed to fix.   
Let's aim higher.  Let's lead with both heart and strategy.  You know?  I think that here in 
Tolleson, we pride ourselves on being a family.  Doesn't feel like a very family forward 
policy or ordinance.  That is all.   
MENDOZA:  Yes, Mr. Mayor -- I can wait.  Want me to make my comment first?  I have a 
suggestion.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Then I'm going to turn to Council.   
MENDOZA:  Just a quick suggestion.  I appreciate Vice Mayor Davis's questions.  They're 
very much valid, and I think fruitful to produce a poignant policy.  I would recommend 
to Council that we postpone both of these items so that we can develop a presentation 
for our work study, to spend a little more time on these issues before Council considers 
them.   
GAMEZ:  Yes, Mr. Mayor.  Jimmy, that was great.  Thank you.  And I think that a lot of 
these issues and concerns will be addressed when we establish a nonprofit -- 
TASA, Tolleson Alliance Against Substance Abuse -- because a lot of things that you're 
talking about stems from substance abuse.  And the things that we will be trying to do is 
to have fundraisers and those dollars can be attributed or directed to events like this or 
programs like this in partnership with health providers.  That's coming down the pike. 
And you and I know that we've talked about this and this is something that can be 
addressed with TASA.  But thank you for bringing those items up.  They're all legitimate, 
all concerns.  But I keep wondering, I don't remember seeing any business in 
Tolleson has shopping carts, so they all must be from Food City.  The only one that

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comes to mind is Family Store, and I don't think they're that big, but nonetheless, 
they're out there.  Thank you.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Yes.  Councilwoman Chavira.  
CHAVIRA:  Having spent 30 years in the housing industry -- in public housing specific -
- and working with homelessness for 30 years, Jimmy's points are valid and they are 
issues.  The difficulty is that Tolleson is a small city, and we do not have our own housing 
department, nor do we have a federal funding specific to affordable housing or ways in 
which to help the community.  And we rely on partners like Community Bridges and 
Maricopa County Housing Authority and our sister housing authorities to help in that 
capacity, and we don't have the control.  So I love the idea of the nonprofit, and I love 
the idea of further discussing it.  And maybe it's a time for me to reach out or for us to 
reach out to our partner cities and to Community Bridges to help us solve this.  But I also 
want my streets cleaned and for -- you know -- to kind of help solve the homeless 
program, but it's just not a problem easily solved.  It's just not.  And so I like the idea of 
maybe discussing this further and maybe coming up with other ideas of how we can 
address this.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Anybody else? 
So my comments are the majority of the complaints that I get for the City of Tolleson 
are twofold.  One is the transient population and two is traffic.  So I've seen it get worse, 
and it's going to continue to get worse, because they're being pushed in this direction.  
And so I don't want our Police Department not to have the tools necessary for them to 
be able to enforce certain rules in parks, in right of ways, in places that people should 
not be sleeping or hanging out on.  I mean, I can tell you right now, there's a spot where 
people go and get high behind apartments.  They're all transients, and the police go by 
there, and then they just go right back onto Van Buren.  And so this problem is not 
getting better.  I do agree that we need to have a more holistic approach to it.  And I 
think our Human Services Department, along with the Police Department and other key 
departments are going to be key players in that.  I mean, obviously we're not -- you're 
right.  We're not going to arrest ourselves out of this problem, especially they're Class 1

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misdemeanors.  We don't even arrest Class 1 misdemeanors, but I do want our Police 
Department to have some team.  So if you have somebody out there that is doing 
something you shouldn't be doing, and they're clearly not part of our community, and 
they're outsiders coming in, and they just want to do as they want, our Police 
Department can address that.  And I've had those situations in my main job where 
somebody just says, "I'm going to this Ramada.  I don't care what you tell me".  And 
then you end up having to arrest them when you run their background, turns out 
they're sex offenders or they have some kind of criminal activity from other states that 
they're running from.  And you're like, I didn't know this.  Well, now we have something 
that's codified that can help us deal with that population because they're out there too.  
And last time I checked, they like to hang out in certain areas of the coast where we 
cross our kids from north of Tolleson to south of Tolleson.  And so to me, having these 
things on the book is just another tool for us to use in the most extreme situations. 
But I agree, I don't think it should be the only choice.  I think it should be one of a 
number of choices, and part of that could be housing vouchers, some of that can be 
counseling, some of that can be drug education and counseling.  And I know we have 
some contracts that we have with the nonprofits as well for treatment, stuff like that.  
So we have to have a wide array of different ways of addressing this.  But to sit here and 
act like this problem -- and I'm not saying you are -- but to sit here and say that this 
problem is not getting worse and that the people that are homeless here in Tolleson are 
Tolleson residents born and raised, we'd be lying to ourselves because we know who 
those people are.  And you know what?  When they come to my house and I happened 
to grow up with them, I'm the first to offer them a water, some food, whatever, but 
these folks aren't them.  So let's just make sure that if we're going to paint this with a 
wide brush and -- you know -- it's going to be trying to solve everything, it includes some 
teeth.  Because if it doesn't have teeth, then nothing else matters.  There's some 
folks that as long as there's no teeth in your community, and they know that there's no 
teeth, they're going to continue to do what they're going to do because they know no 
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There's about 40 of those people there.  Every single day they have taken over 
Ramadas, burned down a restroom, and all kinds of other havoc, and the community's 
had it.  I don't want to become that.  I'd rather do things proactively.   
So I'm okay with the bigger discussion as long as we make sure that we're addressing 
every part of the problem.  And part of that has to do -- I'm not going to say creating a 
criminal element, but we have to be able to address the criminal element.  And these 
types of ordinances are the teeth that our Police Department needs.  Without them, 
their hands are tied, and I don't want to be in that situation either because the 
complaints are going to keep coming in.  And the answer's -- you know -- it can't be this.  
We have to allow them to do their job as well, so that's my two cents. 
CHAVIRA:  The City of Phoenix has already shown us, right?  They had tent city where 
they didn't have ordinances in place and look what became of that.  And then you're in 
the news and you're spending millions of dollars to clean up -- you know -- tent city and 
having created issues in there, so it's a difficult subject.   
DAVIS:  Can I say something else?  I actually just read an article today about somebody 
who works in homeless services -- which I used to, for the record, work with homeless 
families for a good part of my 20s.  But there's some research that's showing that these 
types of ordinances and the cost to the taxpayer is more than it would be to do a 
housing-first model.  So I mean, it's just something to look at.  It could be a cost savings 
to our taxpayers.   
I do agree that we do need to have some, our PD does need to have some authority and 
some teeth.  We cannot allow urban camping to just run amok in our city.  We don't 
want that, and we need to make sure that our residents are safe.  But that doesn't mean 
that we cannot come up with a compassionate policy.  When people get criminal 
convictions on their record, it makes it harder for them to obtain housing and to get 
employment, so that just perpetuates the cycle of homelessness.  We can do better.  
That's all I'm saying.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Yeah.  And I think we need to have a discussion to do better.   
DAVIS:  Agree.

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MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Yeah.  And so I'd be for that, but for me to say we shouldn't pass 
this now, I think it would just inhibit police -- the Police Department's ability to do their 
job.  So I'd be okay with moving forward with these and then having a discussion to 
figure out how to best address these other issues or other services that will fill the gap.   
MENDOZA:  Mayor and Council, and Councilmember Davis specifically, I agree this 
should not be the primary tool that we use to address homelessness.  As long as I'm the 
Police Chief here -- and I hope I get to finish out all of my time here, the rest of my 
career -- this will never be the primary source of dealing with homelessness.  And I hope 
that I get to groom the next Police Chief and they have the same type of 
attitude towards homelessness.  I agree with you, it's a social issue that should never 
have been primarily handled by the Police Department -- by any Police Department, and 
we can see what's happened specifically in Phoenix.  You can look at businesses that are 
suing the Phoenix Police Department for not doing anything, and you can see the ACLU 
is suing the Phoenix Police Department for addressing it, so it's a lose-lose situation for 
Police Departments.  And so I don't think there's any Police Chief that is volunteering to 
take this up.   
DAVIS:  Sorry.  You bring up a good point, and it's something that I have mentioned 
before that I would like to see is potentially a crisis response team being part of our 
public safety portfolio.  I know that that has happened in lots of other cities, and it 
seems to be having great success.  I agree with you that PD should not be the first 
responders when it comes to mental health situations or homelessness.  It should be 
some type of social work component.  So that's something that I would definitely like for 
us to look at as well.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I think we might be missing the second part of this conversation.  
Were you going to call them up to do presentations of what we're doing from the 
human services side?   
LABORIN:  Well, not yet.  Let me just -- so I just wanted to finish my thought really quick 
if I could.  The -- so what we already have going on with the Police Department is we're 
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them.  We're trying to get them connected with services.  We have partnered with CBI.  
However, that team has been dissolved by CBI, and so we're in need of another 
partner, but that's our primary mission was to connect them to services.  It's always 
been that way.  Even when they refuse, we go back out the next couple of days and do 
this.  As the complaints start stacking up, those are what we would call, like, a frequent 
offender or someone that's getting calls on.  The best example I have is there was a 
couple, a boyfriend, girlfriend that, I mean, there must be 20 or 30 calls involved in the 
same couple from businesses, private citizens, passer buyers [sic], you name it.  That's 
where this would come into play.  When we have exhausted all of the other avenues to 
try to help them get back on their feet.  I don't have it in front of me, but it's definitely 
not as specific as the current one we have.  And I'm not sure if we can bring that up. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I will say, I think it's important to note that this ordinance, the 
ordinances that are being proposed are not something that is designed to be overly 
punitive, that we want to outdo the other cities or anything like that.  Quite the 
contrary, we use other cities as a model and these ordinances have been able to be 
defended in court.  And so -- you know -- bigger cities have taken these ordinances 
on, they got sued, and they were able to win, so the ordinances that have been readily 
accepted by law enforcement, by the courts, and by the community at large, and they 
passed the public mustard in that sense, and so we would just be in line with what other 
police agencies are already doing.  And I wasn't going to say anything -- any kind of 
public -- like, the carts -- you know -- if there's information in those carts that's specific 
to a person and they don't want to move it or whatever, I say, we don't throw it away, 
we have to hold it.  And if they ever want to come back and maybe there's medical 
information in there or identification or whatever, they're welcome to come back and 
get it.  You know?  We hold it until their court date.  And then if they say, I don't want 
any of that stuff, then that's different;  we can discard it at that point.  But even in my 
opinion, for 30 days, I don't discard anything.  And we put a date on the day that it was 
collected.   
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Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of the Council.  That's what we can do is put together a 
presentation because it is a multi-pronged approach.  We've found out during our -
- while we were putting this and going over this with the Council that the previous 
Director of the Human Services Division was supposed to solicit the partnership with the 
Phoenix Rescue Mission, is that right?  That obviously there's been a change over there. 
We have a new director that's sitting over there that we all know and love so well.  And 
he is going to reignite that -- those discussions.  So I guess what I'm asking for is a little 
bit of time to put that presentation together so we can talk about what we currently 
do and what we plan to do moving forward with potential partnerships with groups like 
the Phoenix Rescue Mission, if that's okay with Council. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I'm open to whatever.  Yeah.  I just think it's -- the conversation 
had to be had.  And so these ordinance are here, they're to address.  And if today's not 
the day to adopt them, we want to have a deeper conversation, I'm okay with that.  If 
we want to adopt and have a deeper conversation, I'm okay with that too.  I just -- I'm 
not okay with continuing to get phone calls about things that are obvious and we're just 
ignoring them, and they're only going to get worse if we don't -- we're not proactive 
about it.   
MENDOZA:  Thank you, Mayor and Council.  One more, and Councilmember Davis, to 
your point.  There are definitely cities -- I think Scottsdale and Phoenix come to mind -
- of having the actual social workers or counselors inside of the dispatch center.  And 
those being the first to go out.  Resource wise, we don't have that, but what we've been 
doing is sending our officers to the crisis incident training.  And so we have, I would say, 
well over half of our Police Department are trained in crisis intervention training.  I'm 
sorry -- not crisis incident -- it's crisis intervention.  And that is a one-week school on 
how to deal with people with mental health issues.  It talks about autism and -- correct, 
right, right.  Agreed, agreed.  But it is to have the majority of our Police Department be 
trained in that, that's something that you're not going to see in any other city.  You're 
talking about other cities that they actually call for a CIT trained officer.  And we pretty 
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MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I would suggest -- and this is just an idea -- but I don't see a 
problem with finding somebody who has a master's degree and specializes in -- you 
know -- interacting with folks who have mental issues, drug issues, homeless issues, that 
maybe they're willing to work for contract, on-call kind of employees.  When we have a 
situation, we call them in, they can help us address it.  I mean, I know there's other 
opportunities out there for us to -- and you know, our budget cycle is right around the 
corner.  So if we're going to identify expenses for that, right about now would be the 
time to start -- you know -- having those conversations.  So like I said, I mean, there's 
definitely an opportunity for us to continue to have the better aim.  I mean, I think this 
is a good solution on one extreme to kind of fill the gaps between having to get there. 
You know?  If we get there, it's because it was the extreme, but we should have done a 
bunch of things prior to that to prohibit us from getting there and try to get these folks 
back on the right track.   
GAMEZ:  Yes.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Yes. 
GAMEZ:  Mr. Medrano, are you suggesting maybe we table those items until you give us 
a presentation?   
MEDRANO:  Mr. Mayor, members of Council, Councilman Gamez, yes.  I recommend 
that we postpone until such time that we can coordinate efforts between -- it'll be 
several departments -- but to get some feedback from those partnerships, those 
potential partners that were approached and we haven't heard back from.  There's at 
least two I'm thinking of right now, so we can address Vice Mayor Davis's questions as 
well, because I think it lays out a very -- a solid framework for our approach going 
forward.   
ERIVES:  Like a clarifying question, but yes to do a more in-depth exploratory, however 
you want to word it.  However, does that change these ordinances?  Like it wouldn't, 
right?  Like, so these ordinances, the way I understood, have already been vetted in 
other cities, other communities.  This is kind of -- but this is not saying that the moment 
you see one person is immediately going to give them a citation for this.  Like there's

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other parts that go, this is just like in an extreme case.  So even if we have a work study 
in a couple of weeks, that won't change the wording for these two ordinances.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All we're doing is we're taking these two ordinances and literally 
facing them up.  If the recommendation is taken by Council, we would take these two 
ordinances and they would be placed on a table.  And then we're ready to have a 
presentation.  The ordinance would be brought back for action.   
ERIVES:  But what would be future discussion would be something different, right?  Like 
now we're looking for something with housing and something else, something else.  
That won't change these two ordinances. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  No.  I mean, really we could adopt these and have the discussion 
also.  Right.   
DAVIS:  Personally, I would like to see a policy that says this is what we're going to do 
first, right?  Something in writing, like the steps, like how it's all going to look for me to 
feel more comfortable with these.  That's what I would want, personally so -- because 
Chief Mendoza -- you know -- you're a great guy.  We love having you.  It might be 
different, you know?  So I just, I would like to see some clear policy, a clear plan in place 
before we adopt something like this.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  So yeah -- I mean, I'm here.  I'll entertain any motion.  I mean, if 
you guys want to table it, you need to make a motion to table it.  I'm not going to do it.  
I think we need to adopt this and have something on the books and allow us to respond 
to it and then have the conversation.  But if the discussion is going to be to table it 
now and then go back and have this discussion, and then sometime in the 
future, hopefully the problem doesn't get worse, we're able to address it.  I'm okay with 
that too.   
DAVIS:  Can you -- could you guys present at the next Council meeting?  Is that too 
soon?   
SINAWI:  I just need a little bit more time just to be able to get it -- a hold of the 
partners.  So I mean, we can attempt the next meeting, but realistically a month from 
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GAMEZ:  You hear the question?  A month?   
MENDOZA:  It'd be difficult, Mr. Mayor, members of Council, to put a timeframe on it.  
We currently do enforce what's on the books now, but to say in two weeks, it'll be 
ready, even a month, I'm reticent to commit to that for us to do a comprehensive.  
Right. 
DAVIS:  Not to sign agreements with organizations yet.   
MENDOZA:  No.  But even just to get, like Mrs. Sinawi said, getting the potential 
partners to respond to us is my main concern.   
SINAWI:  And Council, just in my own experience, it's not that easy.  You don't just get to 
call a partner and say, hey, we want a partner.  Can you help us do that?  If it was that 
easy, we wouldn't have this problem.  It's just not that easy.  And federal funding is 
diminishing.  It's not growing.  And so -- you know -- who knows how much time it could 
take us to have a partner that would be willing to work with us.  And because we do 
need to solve the problem -- it doesn't really solve the problem, but it does give us some 
teeth to help us move in the right direction.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  This was identified two years ago at our advancement.  It was 
identified this year in our advancement, so it's taken us literally two years to get to this 
point.  And now we're saying, let's table this.  And we don't know how long it's going to 
take us to get to the point where we can feel comfortable with it.  I honestly think it's 
time for us to adopt something to have on the books, and then we can come up with a 
more comprehensive approach, which would make sense for our organization.  And 
quite honestly, it's not going to be the Phoenix solution.  It's not going to be the 
Scottsdale solution.  It's going to be the Tolleson solution.  And that's going to take 
different players, different nonprofits, different organizations to help us out with -- 
maybe some internal staffing, I don't know.  But I think it's a conversation worth having. 
GAMEZ:  Mayor?  I think if we waited two years, another month, two months is not 
going to hurt us.  Is two months too short?   
MEDRANO:  I think within that timeframe, we can provide an update on what we are 
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issues, both through PD, like Chief Mendoza mentioned, with CBI -- I didn't realize they 
disbanded their task force -- but that was our main approach with PD, but the other 
Human Services Divisions approach to helping prevent homelessness or unhousedness 
in the first place.  So we can provide that update sooner than -- and then while we're 
working on trying to contact these potential partnerships.   
GAMEZ:  Is two months okay?   
MEDRANO:  Are we good with two months?   
SINAWI:  Yes.   
MEDRANO:  I'll let a snapshot presentation of where we're at and the direction that we 
want to go in.   
GAMEZ:  Okay. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Okay.  Well, Jimmy, make a motion.  You want to table this for?   
DAVIS:  Yeah.  I motion that we table this item for two months so we can come up with a 
more comprehensive plan and then take a second look at these ordinances.  But I would 
also like some data on if these ordinances are working in other cities.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Reyes, what would be the Council meeting in the issue for the 
meeting in June?   
MEDRANO:  Procedurally Mayor, just because there's a motion on the table.  So what -- 
and I would say for ease of the motion, maybe just it -- because it's a lot -- just a motion 
to table to a future agenda.  And that way, and then get a second, and then you can talk 
about that as much as you want.  To table the item for a future agenda.   
DAVIS:  Table the issue for a future agenda item, preferably in June.   
GAMEZ:  I'll second it. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I would have a friendly amendment to add June 11th.   
DAVIS:  So June 11th.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  June 11th, so we have the date that we're going to pull it off the 
table.  Okay.  Friendly amendment adopted.   
Second, okay with the friendly amendment?   
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MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Okay.  So we have a motion on the floor.  All those in favor, please 
signify by saying aye.   
ALL:  Aye.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All those opposed?  Okay.  Motion passes.  So these two items for 
the record, Ordinance 9617, new series, and 616 will be tabled until the June 16th -- 
June 11th meeting.  Okay?  Okay.   
Now we're going to move to Work Study and Presentation for Discussion.  Discussion 
pertaining to a potential development on the property located at Southwest -- Yes.   
SINAWI:  Just for the record, that meeting date would be June 10th, not June 11th.   
MEDRANO:  You don't need to redo it, but I think that's just, we'll call it a scrivener's 
error.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I'll make that one is zero.  Okay.   
All right.  Tolleson, Arizona, prohibiting the unauthorized removal, possession of, or 
alternative -- that's one we just got done.   
Work Study Presentation for Discussion.  Discuss pertaining to a potential 
development on the property located at the Southwest corner of 91st Avenue and 
McKinley Street.   
Development Services Director Earp.   
EARP:  Thank you, Mayor, members of the Council.  So this is TCS.  I think everyone's 
familiar with TCS on 91st and McKinley.  It's been a body shop, transmission shop, you 
name it for many, many years.  So the owners -- they want to sell the property.  They're 
having a legal issue, civil issue that has nothing to do with the City, with the tenant 
that's in there, Tony's Transmission, so they're trying to figure that out.  So once they 
figure that out, they want to sell.  And on the Zoom is Mr. Luke Grecia (ph.), and he will 
provide what he wants to do with that property.  It's one -- it looks like one big lot, but it 
is about five small parcels, and majority of those parcels are already zoned for 
multifamily.  And I believe that's where the direction he wants to go, so I'll let him take it 
from here, Mayor.   
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multifamily development there on McKinley.  We're currently working through the legal 
process right now, civilly with Tony's Transmission in order to try to resolve that 
issue and develop a multifamily housing unit there.  And I wanted to propose and see if 
there was anything from the City's perspective that would be beneficial to the 
community here.  There is currently five parcels there and that -- those parcels, we'd 
prefer to merge those APNs and actually build some multi-housing units there.  So I just 
wanted to open the floor up to see if there was any questions, concerns, anything that 
comes up with that and see how I can work with the City in order to achieve our goal of 
building multifamily here on that corner.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Okay.  Well, two thoughts come to me.  The first is, is there going 
to be any opportunity for economic development?  Let's say there are 
apartments, which it sounds like you're proposing apartments.  The first floor of the 
apartments facing onto 91st Avenue or even McKinley, if they could be a commercial 
development on the first floor and apartment on the second floor.   
GRECIA:  And that is something that we're definitely open to doing.  Currently right 
now, that is not something that we have on the table, but it is something that we would 
be open to doing, like the first level retail and then above that would be apartments.  I 
just didn't know with the current zoning -- it's in your guys' core district, which I've 
spoke with Brett Harris on.  And it's kind of odd how one parcel is core and the other 
four parcels are zoned multifamily.  And from my understanding, it is -- I don't want to 
use grandfathered as the term, but it's currently being operated not as multifamily.  And 
we're looking at it from a multimillion-dollar development perspective and trying to see 
exactly what we could and couldn't do on this parcel, being that we'll most likely have to 
rezone that front parcel to multifamily or potentially -- you know -- retail with the 
upstairs being apartments.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Okay.  Jason.  What do you -- 
EARP:  Yes.  Thank you, Mayor, members of Council.  So in our meetings with Luke 
before, we suggested possibly if Council's in favor of going into this direction, a PAD, 
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So we can write exactly what you would want to see and not want to see in it. 
And also to help with maybe lessening the setbacks so we can -- there'll be more 
parking, especially if there is going to be a retail component and living component of 
that.  So -- excuse me -- so we would look into rezoning the whole thing, making it one 
APN.  And when the time comes, we'll come back before Council with me working with 
Luke and figuring out what's the best, highest and best use for that property and then 
get your thoughts from there.  This was the first initial steps for Luke to find out if this is 
even something that Council would entertain.  And then I also want to mention that it's 
been a transmission mechanic shop.  We have a grant -- the City has a grant, and Luke's 
aware of this -- through the Brownsfield and they approved that site as they'll go in, 
check it out.  If it's contaminated, then we'll mitigate that issue as well so we can build 
on it.  Mainly from a staff point of view, cleaning up that area would be number one. 
And if we could get some retail with a multifamily above would be great for the City.   
GAMEZ:  I'm sorry.  I like the idea of the retail and also the residents.  I think that's cool. 
I like that.  I was hoping for more parking.  We have issues with parking.  We need 
parking on 91st Avenue because you have a lot of businesses -- not a lot -- but those 
that are thriving, but they have nowhere to park, and that's an issue that causes issues 
on 91st Avenue.  91st Avenue alone is a big issue when it comes to traffic in the morning 
and in the afternoon, so one of these days I would like to have a meeting out there so 
everybody can see what the hell is going on over there.  It's not good and it's not safe.  
That's another issue, but I like the ideas.  I think that's great.  Thank you. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Councilmember Erives.   
ERIVES:  I have a couple of questions.  You know, because the property is kind of like 
fenced off, so you don't really get to see what's in there.  Can you tell me how much 
space -- I know you're saying five properties -- but is it like two acres, one acre?  Are 
those -- you say little properties, but what does my little look like as far as yours?  Are 
there currently homes that are there now that you --  
GRECIA:  No.  
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EARP:  That's what it's zoned for.   
ERIVES:  It's zoned for, right.  But - so what type of property -- how much land are we 
talking about?   
EARP:  I think Luke probably has that answer for you.   
GRECIA:  Yeah.  So each parcel is roughly about 5,000 square feet, and there's currently 
five parcels, so we're talking about 25,000 square feet of total land.  The other thing is, 
is we don't -- we would prefer -- we're under contract to purchase the property right 
now, and we'd prefer not to leave it the way it currently sits.  But from my 
understanding, that is, for lack of better term, grandfathered in and currently being 
operated as that.  So depending that phase one and phase two, we'll be able to see 
exactly what the costs are and associated with -- you know -- developing that parcel. 
But yeah, roughly about 25,000 square feet total.   
ERIVES:  Thank you, Luke.  Thank you. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Okay.  We have another question from Vice Mayor Davis.   
DAVIS:  I just wanted to say that I would also like to see retail on the bottom, housing on 
the top.  We do have a couple of other developments that are coming to our city that 
are designed that way and we're landlocked, so we got to go up.  
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Or down. 
DAVIS:  Or down.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Yeah, we have Councilwoman Chavira. 
CHAVIRA:  Thank you.  Thank you, Mayor.  If there were tax credit dollars 
available through the Arizona Department of Housing, given our previous 
conversation, would you be open to tax credit affordable housing units?   
EARP:  Yes, and that's something that I've proposed actually in earlier meetings to see if 
there was any need for low income housing or government subsidies -- you know -- that 
would prefer.  Currently, we have a development in Glendale that is more kind of 
Section 8 through HUD and being a federal program, we're able to do that.  I'm not sure 
if that would work with the proposed retail at the bottom and apartment at the top.  
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at 40 feet total, so I don't know through the PAD if we would be able to write in our own 
-- you know -- height requirements in order to build higher, or if Council would have any 
objections to a taller building in City of Tolleson to increase that skyline.  
CHAVIRA:  Perhaps because it could help us solve another problem that we have, if we 
have some affordable or low-income housing units available in the City, and so it could 
be a win-win for us.  Thank you.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I think we'll all start with looking at what it is you're proposing to 
build for us to respond to, because right now we're kind of -- we all think have a 
different image of what it's going to be.  And we're hopeful because what it is right 
now is really not what we would prefer.  It looks like -- well, you've seen it.  It looks like -
- you know.  Yeah. 
GAMEZ:  Sanford and Son.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Yeah, very much a junkyard.  But so -- you know -- anything new 
and shiny would be great, but it also has to be good fit for our community.  I'm a big 
proponent for ownership.  I would love to see residential condos where people can 
actually buy the individual condo and be able to say that this piece of land, this little 
parcel, is mine versus rental, but that's something else to consider.  I think we've talked 
about doing lots in other parts of the City or condos where people can actually buy at a 
much lower price point than a residential home.  And I think the Tolleson market would 
be very, very much open to that, because we have a lot of young people that want to 
stay in Tolleson, but their option is stay with mom and dad -- or in some cases, Nana and 
Tata -- or have to buy a house, which is a big jump.  You know?  So I mean, it's 
significant, but a condo, the price points typically are lower and they make it more 
affordable, so I guess that was my contribution to this conversation.  Give us something 
to respond to.  I would like to see a product that could sound like a condo approach.  I 
would like to see retail on the front end, especially on 91st Avenue.  And to 
Councilmember Gamez's point, parking that is sustainable for the development because 
we are in a very tight spot there, and that's a lot to be asking for on five residential 
parcels, so we get that.  So I think Council would be open to showing some flexibility on

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ideas and possibility what we can develop there, assuming that we get it to the 
point that it turns into a PAD because then we have a lot more freedoms at that 
point, not only as a developer, but also as a Council.   
Council for the comments?  Yeah.  Okay. 
EARP:  Okay, sir.  Do you have anything else you want to add?   
GRECIA:  Yeah.  The final thing would be with the condominiums, if we were to 
propose with an architectural rendering of that, would that be something that the 
Council would consider any sort of grants or any help to develop that or anything that 
we could do to work in tandem here with you folks to achieve our -- you know -- mutual 
idea of what we're looking to do?  We're not opposed to the condominiums, but the 
main thing is just parking, and also on 91st, I think you guys have a 12-inch 
waterline and in the alley, I want to say it's 6.  So we're looking at utilities currently to 
see if that would even be something feasible and if there would be any help from the 
City to kind of help us offset those costs -- you know -- depending on kind of what 
direction we go, if we have to tap into the 12 or the 6.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Well, what I would say to that is we're -- in the City of 
Tolleson, we're in the constant mode of improvement, making things better.  And I can 
tell you what we have there now needs better.  And it sounds to me like you can help us 
get to better, but you're in good hands.  You're with Jason and with his team and your 
players and management team.  Anything that we can do on behalf of the City, they 
would know about, and they would be more than happy to have that conversation with 
you and try to get to a point where everybody is in a win-win situation.   
Jason? 
EARP:  Thank you, Mayor, members of Council.  One thing I can say right off the bat, the 
City of Tolleson does not -- eliminated their Development Impact fees, where I know in 
Glendale or wherever else he's building, those can get significantly high, and so those 
right off the bat are -- there's no cost for that. 
CHAVIRA:  And just for me, I still would like to see maybe an option for affordable 
housing.  I think that plays into the other issues that we're having, and I would like to

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see that, but it's just me.  Thank you.   
DAVIS:  You know, I've been thinking about that.  You know, affordable housing for 
veterans is another issue that we have. 
CHAVIRA:  For veterans, yeah.  Yeah.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Jason? 
EARP:  Thank you, mayor.  So if Council, Mayor and Vice Mayor and Council agrees, I 
think we have a good idea on Council's direction.  I could continue to work with Luke 
and move forward and probably, if Luke agrees, we may bring a couple of different ideas 
before you that -- when we're ready, and then we can move on from there. 
Does that sound okay, Luke?   
GRECIA:  Yeah, that sounds great.  I can't see the name here, but to the person that 
spoke before, regarding affordable housing, would that be affordable rental housing or 
would that be, like, affordable housing for sale?   
CHAVIRA:  Affordable rental, I think.  I think it helps us address our homelessness 
issue that we spoke about earlier.   
GRECIA:  And to comment on that, that was something that I was thinking as well would 
be something to do with affordable housing on the rental side.  If we're able to get -- 
you know -- a Section 8 vouchers to help -- you know -- offset that.  That -- you know -- 
CHAVIRA:  That would be a wonderful thing, yes.  And we could work with our local 
housing authority to get those vouchers specific to a project-based unit that are specific 
to us that would enable us to even open the door to working with our Human Services 
Department to say this family is homeless in Tolleson, and we want to try to mitigate 
that to Jimmy's point.  And that so we can work with the housing authority to allocate 
that Section 8 voucher to that unit and have some input on what family obtains that 
voucher, so that would be a great thing.  Yes. 
GRECIA:  Would that be foregoing the retail and just making it all residential rental 
housing?   
CHAVIRA:  I think everyone would like to see some retail, and I can't say in my 
experience in housing that I've seen that, but that doesn't mean it can't be done.  It's a

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whole new world, so maybe.  Yeah.  In housing, we just want a housing unit, right?  So I 
think it would be okay.   
GRECIA:  Would there be any specific or any insight from Council regarding beds and 
baths in terms of what the need for the City of Tolleson would be regarding if these are 
families moving in -- you know -- if we were to do a larger unit, I just want to have 
something to propose our next meeting, a few different options regarding the beds and 
bath mixture between each unit, because for us, it's an equation of the current income. 
CHAVIRA:  Right.  
GRECIA:  You know, we're under contract to purchase the property, so -- you know -- we 
have to look at costs on that side, but I don't know if there's any insight regarding beds 
and baths in terms of what you feel like would be the main need, if that would be a 
three bed, two bath, or a two bed, two bath, or anything regarding that.   
CHAVIRA:  And I apologize.  Yeah. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Many of the houses in Tolleson are three twos, three beds, two 
baths, but I don't think we'd be opposed to two bedrooms, one bath.  I mean, really, at 
the end of the day, I know there's some folks that want to see rentals.  I still think 
ownership is better, and quite honestly, I want to get my kids out of my house and they 
can't afford a house, but they might be able to afford a condo.  But I think just go 
back and just come up with the magic solution.  I know you've got a magic deal 
somewhere that you can show us and we're going to be blown away.  And working with 
Jason, you're going to come up with all the right answers and we're going to be 
extremely impressed.   
CHAVIRA:  And I apologize.  I do not know what our homeless community looks like 
here, and so maybe I'll get a better feel for what we see every day in our 
community and get a better feel for what the need is so we address the need.  But I 
don't know how many single people as opposed to family, so we can find that out for 
you, but probably a good mixture would be an easy solution.   
GRECIA:  One other idea just in closing here was to deed one of the APNs to the City for 
some sort of community center and to develop the other side too.  That's something

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that we've been exploring in other markets and that we've had a lot of success with 
doing depending on if there is any particular need from the City in exchange for allowing 
us to do other things on the parcel.  So we will definitely get to the drawing board 
here this week and start working on different proposals and different renderings so we 
come prepared next meeting with an actual -- you know -- vision and some concrete 
detail regarding exactly what we're going to.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Okay. 
CHAVIRA:  Great. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Sounds good.  Thanks for your time.  
CHAVIRA:  Thank you.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Jason, anything else?  All right.  Well, that concludes that Work 
Study Session. 
We're going to move on to -- do you guys want to take a break before we get into the 
budget or – we're going to take a five minute -- or 10 minute recess for a little rest room 
break before we get into the fiscal updates for the coming year.   
(Recess from 7:30 p.m. to 7:41 p.m.) 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All right.  We're back in session 7:41.   
Item J, Work Study Presentation Number 2.  Fiscal year 2025, second quarter update.  
I'm going to turn it over to our Chief Financial Officer Artz.   
Sir, you have the floor.  Good evening. 
ARTZ:  Evening.  Thank you, Mayor and Council.  So tonight we have the second quarter 
update for fiscal year 2025.  That's the current budget year that we're in.  And we just 
wanted to go through where we're at currently.  
So this is the financial information through December 31st, 2024, and these are the 
revenues of the revenue side.  So taxes, we had an original budget of 38 -- a little over 
$38 million.  That's our sales tax and our property tax.  We've collected almost $20 
million of that through December, so we're at about 52 percent collections on the 
taxes, which is, as you can see, the largest percentage of our total budget in the General 
Fund.  Intergovernmental is our revenue that we get shared from the state, so the

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income tax, the state sales tax.  Those revenues were right at 50 percent there of our 
collections on the intergovernmental.   
Licenses and permits.  We're a little bit behind what we had budgeted there.  We're at 
34 percent, so we haven't seen quite as many of the licenses and permits coming in, but 
the other areas are making up for that, and that's a fairly small revenue line item for us.  
Charges for services.  That is primarily the dispatch services that we have with El Mirage 
and the TO, and so we're above our collections there.  We're at about 70 percent, 69 
percent there, and I think we actually have one extra receipt in there is why. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Dispatch services for the TOs right here off of the 101, but are we 
also doing it at the 303, both of them?  Okay.   
CHAVIRA:  Wow.  Okay. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I wasn't aware.  I want Chief Mendoza to answer. 
MENDOZA:  So -- and I'm -- I don't think my mic is working.  Here we go.  So TO is still 
running the same number of officers.  They have gone back and forth with the one 
that's -- you know -- kind of helped them to get through.  So yeah -- that same number 
of officers provides service to two different locations.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Okay.  So we're able to service both with same number of people?  
Okay.  That's all.  Thank you. 
MENDOZA:  Sorry about that.   
ARTZ:  And then interest is our next revenue line item.  We had budgeted $1.5 million.  
We've collected almost $1.2 million, so we're well ahead of our budget there -- about 37 
percent collected on our dividend or interest income.   
The miscellaneous.  The big amount there is the sale of the old City Hall property, so 
that's what's included in the $3 million actual.  And so in total, we're at about 61 
percent collected of our budget for through the second quarter.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Looking at 50 percent of the year that already passed. 
ARTZ:  Exactly, so being right on budget would be at 50 percent.  So we're about 10, 11 
percent above budget on the revenue side, which is a positive variance for us.   
Just looking at some of the other funds.  Public safety tax, we're at 41 percent.  There's

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just -- when we collect the taxes overall, there's a journal entry that has to be made, so 
that's only actually five months worth of revenue there at 41 percent.  So that's actually 
exactly where it should be after five months.  HEERF is at 47 percent.  Water, sanitation, 
both coming in right where they should be or a little bit above.  The wastewater looks 
low, but again, that's the one where we bill out our partners, and so when we get to the 
expenditure side, you'll see that we have $4.7 million of revenue, but we'll have less 
than that on the expenditure side.  So don't really look at the percentage on that one. 
It's more of the dollar amount, and then we're right where we should be again on the 
wastewater side also.   
Again, this is one of the graphics that we like to keep track of.  Just looking at our sales 
tax collections on a month over month basis.  So for fiscal year 25, we've collected $21 
million through the first six months.  Comparing that to 24, we're at 17.5, so we've seen 
very strong growth in our city sales tax.  And then just looking at the graphic on the 
right, you can just see where the dark blue is the 25 number, and so you can see that 
each month, basically, we're collecting more than we did in the previous year, except for 
December, which was a little bit low, but it's basically right there about the same 
amount.  So everything is looking good on our sales tax collections.  We track this on a 
monthly basis so that if we start to see a trend of our sales tax collections coming 
in below the prior year, we would be able to come to Council and discuss that and then 
discuss possibly what options needed to occur if we see a continued trend of 
that coming in below our prior year.   
So looking at the expenditure side, I won't go through all of them.  I mean, basically, 
again, we're at 50 percent.  Mayor and Council's at 55.  That's because both of the City 
Attorney payments have been made by the end of December, so you've basically got the 
full year of the City attorney's contract being charged through six months, so it looks 
good there.   
I know I'll get some comments from some, so I'll just point it out.  Finance is at the 
highest there at 58 percent.  I heard a little bit about that last quarter when we were 
over.  But similar thing, it's our insurance premiums to the risk pool.  We've made three

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of those through the six months, so by the end of the year, I'm confident that all 
departments will be below budget, and so we'll just kind of scroll through here.  The rest 
of these are all below 50 percent on their percentage of budget.  And everyone's looking 
good, right on track.  And so in total, $15 million of expenditures or about 30 percent of 
our budget on the expenditure side.  So again, a positive variance when we're looking at 
budget to actual on the expenditure.  So revenues coming in higher than 
projected, expenditures being lower than the budget, so very positive news.   
Looking at some of the other funds, everything here is again in line.  You know, nothing 
stands out is on the expenditure side.  And then you'll see there, the wastewater 
treatment plant, that $4.1 million on expenditures;  revenues were about $4.4 million.  
So again, everything is tracking right as it should, and we're very comfortable with 
where we're at on the budget through the second quarter.   
But just the key takeaways.  Revenues are projecting to exceed budget, expenditures 
coming in under budget, so we anticipate that the results of the year is that we'll be 
adding to our fund balance.  And that number is already very positive and we'll be 
continuing to add to that number.  With that, staff is available if you have any questions. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  My only comment is great news is always embraced.  And you said 
it best.  Expenses are low, under projections, and revenues high, above what we 
expected, and so that's a win-win.  We got to make up our difference in our new aquatic 
facility, so this will help us go a long way with that.  
Other comments, questions?   
GAMEZ:  So you're going to get a raise soon, right?  Good job, man.   
ARTZ:  Thank you.   
GAMEZ:  Absolutely.  
ERIVES:  I'll just say, I appreciate the visuals with the graphing.  It makes it really easy 
because I'm not a numbers person, but I can understand that.  So thank you for the 
presentation, that ease of understanding.  Thank you.  
DAVIS:  I appreciate the same thing.  I am lucky enough to sit on the -- I'm not going to 
say actually that -- let's just say thank you.  Thank you.

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MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I can tell you that one of the biggest things that we do as a Council 
is approve the budget and hope that the City's in a good financial place.  And we got 
people that are surgical like yourself and your team that help us stay there, and quite 
frankly, reports like this, help us sleep at night, knowing that we're doing the best that 
we can, of course, with the support of all of you folks that actually do the day-to-day. 
So thank you, I can rest tonight knowing that we're in a very good place.   
So if there's no other questions or comments, take a seat.  No, not yet.   
We're going to move on to Item number 3, which is fiscal year 2026 First Budget Work 
Study.   
ARTZ:  Mayor.  So tonight we're going to focus on the revenues.  So we're not going to 
get into any of the expenditure side or any of the requests from the departments, so we 
just wanted to focus on revenues tonight.  And then when we come back at the next 
meeting, we'll get into the department's request and the departmental budgets, the 
expenditure budgets.  So just focusing on the revenues tonight, this is just a snapshot of 
where we're at for each of the funds.  It starts on the left column with an estimated 
fund balance in July of 25.  So three months from now, this is what we're projecting our 
fund balance to be.  So for the General Fund, just shy of $80 million, $49 million of 
revenues, and then $71 -- and on the expenditure side, we're still fine tuning this, so 
when we come back in a couple of weeks, these numbers may change a little 
bit because we haven't completed the expenditure side of the budget.  But these are 
the numbers of where we're at today.  So expenditures of a $71.6 million, transfers out 
of $13 million.  $10 million of that is going down to the Aquatic Center, so that's where 
the funding for the Aquatic Center is at, is in the transfers out.  So projecting ending 
fund balance to be at $44.7 million.   
Now we're very conservative when we project that beginning fund number, so I'm 
confident that the ending fund balance is going to be above the $44 million, especially 
when we have the results of next year where we should have positive revenue 
variances and positive expenditure variances.  So although it appears that we're 
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And then you can see that with all of our other funds, there is one fund there that the 
impound fund that's showing in the negative, and so we still have some work to do 
there to figure out what we're going to do if we're going to transfer money in or adjust 
expenditures.  But by the time we bring this back to you in two weeks, all of the funds 
will be balanced and we'll have a positive ending fund balance.   
So included in your packet tonight was a detail of all of the revenue line items, so I'm 
going to keep it fairly high level and not get into all the details, but you do have every 
line item and what we're projecting the revenue to be.  So if you want the details, you 
have it.  And if you have any questions on that, I'm happy to answer it tonight, but 
otherwise I was going to try to keep it at a fairly high level on the revenue side.   
So taxes, we're at -- current year budget is $38.4 million.  Next year, we're budgeting 
$43 million.  So a $4.5 million increase in taxes is what we're projecting -- almost a 10 
percent -- or actually a 12 percent increase on sales tax.  We then go ahead and break all 
of our revenues down into one-time revenue and ongoing revenue so that we can 
balance our budget to the expenditure side, so all of our revenues are categorized and 
then all of our expenditures are categorized on ongoing and one-time revenues.  So 
we've got $37.7 million of ongoing revenue for taxes.  Intergovernmental, we're 
projecting a slight decrease.  That's because the formula for the income tax changed a 
little bit, and we're actually going to project it to see a little bit less in revenue from the 
state on that.  Excuse me.  We did decrease license and permits just based on the 
current year results where we were seeing that those weren't coming in as strong, so 
we've reduced those a little bit.  Charges for services staying about the same.  And then 
the miscellaneous, we're showing some increases and the majority of that is again in the 
interest income.  We're seeing very positive results from our investments and our -- so 
we're seeing increased revenue from our dividends and interest income.   
So total of $44 million in the current year and we're projecting in the General Fund over 
$49 million of revenue -- so a 10 percent increase on the revenues, which is fairly 
substantial.  And when we bring back the expenditures to you, you'll be able to see 
where we're programming all of those funds towards.  Some of the other funds, HEERF

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is going up a little bit.  Grants, we're showing an increase.  You know, the grants -- a lot 
of what's in there is the federal appropriations and there's obviously some 
unknown with whether we're going to get some of those revenues.  But we thought it 
was better to leave it in the budget because if we do get the grants, we need to have it 
budgeted so that we can expend the funds, and so we understand that there's not a 
high likelihood that we're going to get $56 million of grants next year, but we need that 
flexibility based on what does come in or what becomes available to us.  Public safety, 
showing an increase of a couple of hundred thousand dollars in the public safety tax.  
The Aquatic Center, the $21 million is the bonds, so we're showing the revenue from the 
bonds coming in.  So in total, going from $167 million of revenue to about $180 million 
of revenue is what we're projecting.   
AAA is our -- I forget what it stands for now, but it's basically the senior center area.  
We've got -- thank you.  And so it's the meals and some of those, so it's a grant that we 
get from the county.   
Also just wanted to talk a little bit again about the property tax.  So for the last several 
years -- so back in 2021, our property tax rate was at $3.52.  We've been able to 
gradually decrease that.  And then we're actually holding it the same now for the past 
four years or just a very slight decrease this year, but it's nice that we're able to 
maintain that tax rate and not have any increases and actually show almost a dollar 
decrease from back in 2021.  So -- you know -- providing more services, providing more 
amenities, but keeping the tax rate at a stable rate and not having to increase it, so 
that's a very positive.   
With that, staff's available for any questions that you may have on the revenues.  As I 
mentioned, we'll come back in the first meeting in April and we'll have all of the 
expenditure budgets and go through the increases on the expenditure side and the new 
programs and services.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Awesome.  Well, I've got to say 25 is looking great.  We're getting 
better, and so it's a rolling.  Thank you very much for the information.   
CHAVIRA:  Thank you.

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GAMEZ:  Good job, man.  Thank you.  Thank you so much. 
ARTZ:  Thank you.  Thank you, mayor.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Mayor and City Manager Updates of Current Events, community 
events.   
Director Babchuk? 
BABCHUK:  Thank you, Mayor and members of the Council.  Excited to update you guys 
on some events that are coming up for the month of April.  We have a few of them 
starting with our Whoopee Daze event -- or Whoopee Daze Festival -- starting next 
Friday. 
We have a good lineup starting with our Youth Day event and then live entertainment 
starting at 6 p.m. and going to 10:30.  We have our 5K run with the elementary 
school that we'll be doing.  We'll have an update tomorrow.  We have a meeting with 
them to see exactly how many runners we have.  So that'll be followed by our 
parade, which is themed community spirit.  After that, we have our Dia de los Ninos 
from 11:00 to 4:00, which library has graciously helped out with in the past years and is 
helping us this year again with that.  So Sunday, we will have our friends and family 
kickball tournament starting at 8 a.m.  So if you guys can get a team out, we're currently 
at five teams. We're possibly looking at staying at eight, so if you guys know anyone that 
wants to get in, it'll be a good time.  And then our live event -- or live entertainment -- 
will start at 1 p.m. and go through 8:30 on Sunday night, April 6th.   
We have our Easter event the following Saturday, April 12th, which we do in 
conjunction with our VFW.  We've added a car show component to help fundraise for 
them -- for their facility as well -- so we'll have a car show component, which will go 
from 10:00 to 1:00, 10 a.m. to 1 p.m.  April 12th.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  What is it?  Just a show and shine or --   
BABCHUK:  It'll be a show and shine.  Cars will be paying an entry fee of $20 to show 
their car and all proceeds will go to VFW 6310, post 6310.  
April 19th, we will have an Arbor Day event.  We partnered with a company called Trees 
Matter.  They've donated 25 trees for 95th Avenue Park.  We're going to do a tree line

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on the south end of the field, as well as the west side, so they're donating 25 plush 
Pistache trees, and then they're going to do some volunteers as well as helping them 
train some of our staff as well, so we'll have a good time, and that'll be from 8 a.m.  to 
12 p.m. that day.  And then that'll line up so we can be a Tree City USA, so that'll be the 
last component for that, and we'll become a Tree City USA.  And that's the month of 
April.   
MEDRANO:  Public safety has an update too. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Public safety.   
MEDRANO:  Thank you, Randy.  Oh shoot.   
CHAVIRA:  Wow.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I just wanted to be noted.  I will not be pushing out the trouble.  
LABORIN:  For the record. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All right.  Well, we got some good events coming from Randy.  
Thank you, sir.  We got another great event over there.  And Public Safety --   
CHAVIRA:  We have a Tolleson Talks.   
ERIVES:  Don't we have one on Friday?   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  We have a Tolleson Talks this Friday.  Yeah.  I think it's going to be 
at Irma's?   
ERIVES:  Irma's.  Yeah.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  And so we'll be talking about Parks and Recreation and events 
coming up this summer. 
So I'm moving to Item number 2, and I guess I'll go first.  It's just the Council of the 
National League of Cities.  This year was a little different.  At least for me, it felt 
different.  Like the vibe in D.C. has changed a little bit.  I'm not going to say for the 
better, but I'm going to say it's definitely different.  But like I explained to the 
Councilmembers, our job is to ask.  You know?  We do what we can, and there's certain 
things that are out of our purview and those -- you know -- eventually the 
congressman's got to take over and the executive branch and everybody else, and then 
they decide what's going to be funded and what's not.  Going back to the CFO's earlier

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comments, we don't expect to get $50 million, but you never know.  I know what's going 
to happen if you don't ask, and you don't apply;  you're going to get zero.  And so this 
year we had a -- I'm not going to name him, but we had a guest that came along with 
us, and he was observing City staff and Councilmembers.  And before I forget, Reyes and 
Pilar did an amazing job along with our Anna and Bob putting together our talking 
points.  And we proposed four projects, and each one was, I think, 1.25 -- so $1.25 
million -- so in totality, you're looking at $5 million, cross our fingers.  But having said 
that, I asked him -- I was kind of -- when we went to dinner, I said, hey, so what'd you 
think of today?  And he said, you guys are like a well-oiled machine.  At first you guys 
started off, and it was a little kind of -- you know -- and you have a strategy, but by the 
second one, you guys were hitting on all eight cylinders and you guys had your talking 
points, little committee things here and there.  And so I think overall, the 
Councilmembers that went this year was Jimmy, and we also had a Councilmember 
Chavira, and they did an amazing job.  And so I think we did what we wanted to do.  And 
I got to tell you, there were some people that went and never even met with the 
Councilmembers, other cities.  And they were convinced that, for what?  They're just 
going to cut the budget, we're not going to get anything.  Okay.  If that's the way you 
want it.  Well, first of all, if you want to come all the way to D.C. and say you're 
advocating for your city, and then you don't advocate for your city, that's on you.  But 
we went there to do a job, and I feel very confident and comfortable knowing that we 
did exactly what we wanted to do, and that was good.  And I didn't want to talk too 
much beyond that, because I know maybe some other Councilmembers that went or 
staff wanted to add their own two cents, like something. 
DAVIS:  This was a different conference for me.  It was the first time -- I had to get 
there a couple of days early because I had my federal advocacy committee meeting for 
human development.  So that was really interesting, just kind of hearing all those 
different perspectives of change to human development, just from all over the 
country and some of the problems that different people are having.  And I also sat in the 
Small Cities Committee meeting.  And I will say one of my takeaways from that

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meeting is that even though Tolleson is a small city, technically, and rural at that, where 
you have a rural designation, you don't really have small city problems. We have -- how 
do they describe it?  We're a small city wearing big city clothes.  Like, we have big city 
problems, but it's good.  We have very different issues as a small city, so that was 
awesome.  And then, I was really excited that our team Council got to go -- seven Teen 
Councilmembers, right?  Yeah, seven Teen Councilmembers.  We had that retreat 
high, so to speak.  You know what I mean?  They were so excited and just so grateful for 
the opportunity.  And I'm really glad that as a city, we were able to provide that 
opportunity to them because that's our future.  Those are our future leaders, so we 
need to really cultivate that and grow that, nurture that.  I don't think any of them had 
traveled out of state before, right?   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  None of them have been to D.C. 
DAVIS:  Yeah, and none of them had ever been to D.C.  So it's an amazing 
opportunity that we were able to provide for them, and so I'm just glad we got to do 
that.  Also the busiest NLC schedule I've ever had in my life.  And I actually came home a 
little early on Wednesday because I was so tired.  I went to the airport and was in their 
face, like send me home.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I mean, you literally get picked up and we go to the Capitol and 
from the moment you get dropped off, it's walk, walk, walk, walk, stop, present.  Okay.  
Thank you.  Shake hands.  Get up, walk, walk, walk, walk, present.  And then okay.  Now 
we're going to go to the other building and you get out of this building.  So it's a lot of -- 
it's all synchronized.  When you're done with it, it all makes sense.  You hit all the 
important points.  And the only one that I was kind of disappointed -- it wasn't a 
disappointment -- but obviously it was out of his control, but we used to see 
Councilmember Grijalva.   
CHAVIRA:  Yes.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Not Council, I'm sorry.  Congressman Grijalva.  And he wasn't 
there today.  He wasn't there during the -- he was at home getting treatment and we 
asked him how he's doing, and we knew he was feeling a little bad.  And so they

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reassured that he was doing great and this and that.  And unfortunately we came 
back and we got the sad news that he had passed away.  And -- you know -- on that 
note, I got to say, we're very thankful for all of his past support and he's been a great 
friend of Tolleson and we're surely going to miss him and -- you know -- our prayers are 
with their families.  And so we'll see what happens with District 7 moving forward, but 
it's very important that we stop and we thank people when they help us out.  And to say 
that Congressman was a friend of Tolleson is a huge understatement.  He was a huge 
advocate for us and we're very thankful for all of the service, and so we wish the best 
for his family.   
But Christine? 
CHAVIRA:  It was an amazing experience that I very much appreciate.  A little bit 
intimidating to be in our nation's capital and speaking to people who -- you know -- 
work there and are seasoned people.  So yeah, I think the first time it was like, wow, I 
kind of bumbled that a little bit.  So definitely we'll get better at that, but it was an 
amazing experience to go and speak about our city and pitch for money for our city.  
And you're right, if you don't ask for any, you're not getting any.  So we'll see what 
happens.  Staff, wow.  You guys do a great job.  First of all, keeping us in line, knowing 
our schedule and getting us from point A to point B and organizing it, and that's a 
tremendous task in and of itself.  So thank you for all your hard work and hopefully 
Tolleson gets some money.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  I didn't get to thank Ruben.  Ruben had probably the hardest job. 
He had seven teenagers that he had to take care of the whole time from the moment he 
got there to the moment that he left.  And I got to say, we sat down and after a couple 
of days, the teams get to go on team tracks.  So they're with other teams from across 
the country and they get to talk about leadership and about governance and vision and 
themselves.  And you sit down and have a slice of pizza with these kids and they're just 
gleaming of leadership.  I mean, they're hungry for the opportunity and for just -- it 
charges your batteries because you're sitting there and you're kind of tired because 
you've been walking all morning and you're just having a general conversation with

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them and they're just -- they're ready to go.  You know?  And that's what we're 
producing here.  And I think that's a testament to guys like Ruben, Randy before him, 
and the entire Parks and Recreation Center.  That was their Teen Council.  You guys are 
producing an amazing crop of young teenagers that are ready to take that next 
challenge, so let's continue to do that.  Let's expose them to great opportunities.  I think 
that was very, very good.   
DAVIS:  Yes. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Absolutely. 
DAVIS:  About the Teen Council, I thought of it.  They called me by my first name.  So 
that's a testament to our family dynamics here in Tolleson and something that we need 
to keep with our Teen Council, making sure they do know us and they know that we're 
there to support them.  And of course, thank you to Ruben for -- they had a horrible trek 
to D.C.  Their flight got delayed.  They got to the airport at like 7:00 in the morning and 
they were on my flight in the evening, so they were there all day long.   
CHAVIRA:  They lost their luggage. 
DAVIS:  Yeah, they lost their luggage.  So every horrible travel situation happened to 
them, so they're prepared for their future now. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Yeah.  Get it out of the way.  Hopefully it doesn't happen again. 
DAVIS:  Yeah.  No.  I didn't say it earlier, but thank you so much to the staff for preparing 
everything for us and you guys do a really good job of playing to our individual 
strengths, so we appreciate you guys and all your hard work.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Randy, you had your hand up. 
BABCHUK:  Yeah.  Thank you, Mayor, members of the Council.  Just wanted to -- you 
know -- thank you guys for being so accessible to our teens.  That was, I think, one of the 
biggest things they took away from the conferences is that they know your names. 
They know you come in and visit with them and they have that accessibility to you 
guys and whatever you guys are doing.  They're there with you guys.  So they really 
appreciated that, and I think that was the biggest part that they took from it and they 
loved.  So -- and they came back ready to work for sure.

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MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Awesome. Staff?   
MEDRANO:  Thank you, Mr. Mayor.  You want to say something before I do?  So I'm 
going to disagree with Councilwoman Chavira.  You were outstanding and you've been 
outstanding since you've been on this Council and it's an honor to work with you.   
Vice Mayor Davis, equally as outstanding and I loved how you pointed out how proud 
you are about how diverse our organization is and how reflective we are about the 
community we serve.  Most notably, when you mentioned the promotion of the two 
deputy City Managers, that meant a lot to me.  I know it did to them.  When Senator 
Gallego's staff was so impressed when they sat down with us and looked around and 
said, you're all Latino.  It was awesome.  It was awesome.   
And Mayor, the way you facilitated all the meetings kept us all in order and it went 
extremely well.   
So thank you to all three of you for investing the time in that.   
I have a couple of announcements after to present too.   
SINAWI: Mayor, members of Council.  I just want to say a huge thank you to all of the 
directors and staff, their support.  You know, it's an official project.  There's a lot of work 
to get it ready to have projects, to present things.  There's also a lot of work in the 
community that we can't do without your support.  It's priceless.  I feel very blessed to 
have the support that we've been offered.  Like you've all mentioned, it's a lot of work 
throughout the whole entire process, but we definitely, like you've all mentioned, worth 
it for the community for us to -- you know -- at least to make that attempt for the 
community.  So thank you to Council and thank you to my teammates.   
MEDRANO:  Thank you very much, Pilar, for acknowledging our team.   
Yes, first, I want to acknowledge the 10-year anniversary of one of the most bold steps 
I've ever seen anyone take.  Today is the anniversary of the formation of the Pierce 
Coleman, who's now been our -- we were his first client and we are the first of 16.  So 
Justin, congratulations on your prosperity and thank you so much. 
And then lastly, at least under this category, I want to thank Stephen Holliday for his 17 
years of service.  He's reached his retirement age and I'm overjoyed that he's decided to

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stay with us and thank Council for honoring that today with the passage of our new 
contract.  And I look forward to 17 more years of working with you, Stephen.  You've 
changed my life personally, both with your contributions to the organization and helping 
us get through the pandemic the way you and your team did, but also through your 
friendship, so thank you and congratulations.   
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  Okay.  Well, with that, I know you guys are waiting for the next 
one, at least most of you are.  We're going to convene into executive session, so I'm 
going to make a motion to go into executive session.  Now, I always have to read this. 
Now the time for Council to convene into executive session, we are asking members of 
the public and those that are not involved in the executive session to please exit the 
meeting at this time.  The only action items after the executive session will be to 
adjourn the public meeting.  Do we have a motion to go into executive session?   
We have a motion by Vice Mayor Davis. 
We have a motion by -- second by Clorinda Erives.  All those in favor, please signify by 
saying aye.   
ALL:  Aye. 
MAYOR RODRIGUEZ:  All those opposed?  All right.  We're now in executive session.   
Everybody have a good night.  Take care, folks. 
 
 
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ATTEST: 
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CERTIFICATION 
 
I HEREBY CERTIFY THAT THE FOREGOING MINUTES ARE A TRUE AND CORRECT COPY OF 
THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TOLLESON, 
ARIZONA, HELD ON MARCH 25, 2025. I FURTHER CERTIFY THAT THE MEETING WAS DULY 
CALLED AND HELD, AND THAT A QUORUM WAS PRESENT. 
 
 
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