HCAC_2026_0107_Minutes

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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING 
OF THE FOUNTAIN HILLS HISTORY AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION 
January 7, 2026 
 
 
 
 
A Regular Meeting of the Fountain Hills History and Culture Advisory Commission was 
convened at 16705 E. Avenue of the Fountains in open and public session at 4:00 p.m. 
 
Members Present: Chairperson Bob Burns; Vice Chairperson Toni LePoer; 
Commissioner Tim Yoder; Commissioner Peter Gallagher; Commissioner 
Chandler Harper; Commissioner Bonnie Kline; Commissioner Tiffany Titus 
Members Absent: none 
 
Staff Present: Community Services Director Kevin Snipes; Administrative 
Assistant Stormy Mazeikis

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CHAIR BURNS:  It's 4:00.  So I'm going to call the January 7th meeting of the Fountain 
Hills History and Cultural Commission together and to order.  And can we get a roll call, 
Stormy? 
MAZEIKIS:  Yes.  Chair Burns.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Here.  
MAZEIKIS:  Vice Chair LePoer.   
LEPOER:  Present.   
MAZEIKIS:  Commissioner Yoder.   
YODER:  Present.   
MAZEIKIS:  Commissioner Gallagher.  
GALLAGHER:  Here.  
MAZEIKIS:  Commissioner Kline.  
KLINE:  Here.  
MAZEIKIS:  Commissioner Harper.  
HARPER:  Here.   
MAZEIKIS:  Commissioner Titius.   
TITIUS:  Here.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Okay.  All present and accounted for so move on.  We've got no 
presentations today, so go to the regular agenda, consideration and possible action, 
approval of the minutes from the September 4th, 2025 meeting.  Do I hear a motion on 
that or any corrections?  
VICE CHAIR LEPOER:  I motion to accept.  
YODER:  I'll second that.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Okay.  We have a motion and a second.  All those in favor?  
ALL:   Aye.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Any opposed?  And then consideration of approval of the minutes of the 
December 3rd, 2025 meeting.  Do I have a motion on that or any corrections?  
GALLAGHER:  I move to accept them as written.   
HARPER:  Second.

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CHAIR BURNS:  Motion and a second.  
YODER:  Seconded already. 
CHAIR BURNS:  Okay.  All those in favor?  
ALL:  Aye.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Opposed?  Okay.  Now we've got discussion and possible action 
regarding the historical registry for the fountain.  Kevin, do you have anything new on 
that?  I know Ryan was doing some of the legwork and talking to the people, but you 
have some information in the packet here.  
SNIPES:  Yeah, that's the only thing that we have right now is, is the information that 
Ryan had gathered.  I haven't heard anything since he's been out.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Yeah.  Okay.  And no reaction yet from management or council on how 
to go forward.  
SNIPES:  Basically, we're looking for -- given the information that’s shown, kind of that's 
seeing where you guys are at on it and what you think about what was brought back to 
see if this is something that you want to continue working on, or do you think that the 
information that they're asking for is beyond what makes it a useful tool for the Town.  
And so that's kind of where we're at right now is, is seeing what the committee's 
opinion is on where we're at.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Yeah.  Well, from my perspective, I think there is room to work with a lot 
of this.  You know, getting some additional information might be a little harder than we 
first went into it.  I don't know -- we had a suggestion from the last meeting to consider 
a consultant to work with us on.  
HARPER:  A historic consultant.  Do we have --  was it the State Historic Preservation 
Office that denied the application, or --  
CHAIR BURNS:  Yes.  
HARPER:  Do we have their comments on the application somewhere? 
CHAIR BURNS:  Yeah, they're basically outlined in the packet for this meeting.  Looks like 
page 39.  
HARPER:  Okay.  I will take these.  I know this isn't super helpful for today, but I'll take

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these and take a look at those and see kind of what they're comments were.  And see, 
based on my experience with shippos (phonetic) throughout the country kind of what.  
CHAIR BURNS:  And again, my own question, as far as -- I've personally got no problem 
going forward working on some of this, but I would want direction from staff and 
council on their thoughts regarding the Orme Dam.  That's a complicated issue.  And I'm 
not even sure how we can connect the two.  
SNIPES:  So that was kind of one of the things that I thought, as well, was that's going 
beyond the history of the fountain itself into a different class, I think, than what getting 
historical recognition for the fountain is not based on something that's before the 
fountain.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Yeah.  
SNIPES:  So that was one of the things that triggered me as well, is that.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Basically, everything I read, it indicated it was --had really nothing to do 
with the decision to put the fountain.  
SNIPES:  Exactly.  
GALLAHER:  I have read in some places that, because the Orme Dam was not built, that 
they had to come up with some idea of how to sell real estate.  And putting the fountain 
in was the selling point.  So perhaps there is a connection between Orme Dam and the 
fountain, in that the failure of the dam caused the idea of the fountain to happen.  
YODER:  I think that's the -- in my opinion or what from what I know, that's the cart 
before the horse because the Orme Dam was spelled out in --  at some point in time in 
the very late ‘60s or early ‘70s that it might or would possibly come into existence.  But 
the fountain was already up in 1970, and the dam wasn't canceled officially until 1980.  
GALLAGHER:  Yes, but one might think a developer as astute as Mr. McCulloch 
(phonetic) would have foreseen the failure of the dam, since he was developing 
Fountain Hills originally as lakeside project.  
YODER:  I don't know --  
YODER:  Perhaps do we have evidence and proof of that, that he knew and that that was 
his intention?  Or do we just --

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YODER:  I don’t think that’s -- I've never seen -- for certain.   
GALLAGHER:  I have read in some accounts that he initially was going to build a lakeside 
community, and when that didn't happen, he came up with the idea of the fountain.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Well, again, that’s kind of what we're up against in additional research.  
YODER:  Right.  I don't think -- when I read this first bullet point here, I think I'm like you, 
Bob.  The Orme Dam is a controversy or was a controversy and complicated, but I don't 
think that the wording here, the context of the fountain's complicated history.  I don't 
think the fountain's history was complicated at all.  It was built on private land by a guy 
that wanted to build a fountain.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Yeah.  
KLINE:  I believe it was inspired by a newspaper article.  So I think that should be the 
starting point.  
CHAIR BURNS:  That's correct.  And I'd love to find a copy of that, but I haven't been able 
to thus far.  But I'm going to keep looking, or I can keep looking. 
GALLAGHER:  Perhaps the way that bullet is written is not exactly one hundred percent 
correct.  It might be that the complicated history was that of the Orme Dam.  
YODER:  Sure.  And I concede that that's just a written line that might be out of whack 
there.  But on the other hand, it's possible that they imbued the whole existence of 
Fountain Hills with some kind of negative energy, so to speak, when it was basically just 
a business decision.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Okay.  All right.  Well, I think I'll wait.  When Ryan gets back, we can talk 
to him some more and maybe take some direction and go from there, this one point and 
explore the Disney Imagineer element of the narrative.  It connects the idea of planned 
communities and explore what is good about America.  I think digging into, particularly 
C.V. Wood's background, I'm not sure you would find out what's good about America.  
So you know, basically what we've done, if we included a lot of those details in that 
narrative, they might be somewhat surprised.  So anything else, can we move on here?  
YODER:  I think so.  I mean, I could spend about an hour breaking this stuff down, and so 
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GALLAGHER:  I would like to review this further because these bullets are, from an 
editor's perspective, they're very poorly written.  It's actually hard for me to understand 
the intent of some of these bullets because of the way they're written, in particular the 
one about Disney.  The second sentence doesn't make any sense whatsoever.  
YODER:  Yes.  And the whole Disney project, the history of Disney is fraught with 
troubles, even in the recent decade or two.  There's all kinds of problems about holding 
Disney up, the Disney Imagineer as, I don't know, as a hero.  I mean, you could do it, but 
they've also proven themselves to be not heroes.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Yeah.  
GALLAGHER:  I just find it difficult to understand what it is that they're looking for based 
on this set of bullets. 
KLINE:  So I'd have to go back and to notes to find out exactly what it was.  But there 
was something that the government did with the tax situation that made developers 
look at Fountain Hills and also a community up in Colorado, and that made it look like a 
tax.  You know, the tax would make it a money-making venture for them.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Yeah.  Actually, there was a fairly difficult discussion between the 
developer and state legislators and the City of Scottsdale to get the development going.  
Although I'm not exactly sure what that has to do with the fountain.  You know, we're 
not trying to make the whole town a historic landmark.   
HARPER:  Could a copy the application be circulated after this meeting as well?  I don't 
think I have a copy of the application that was submitted.  I think that would be really 
helpful for me to be able to look at that alongside these comments, just if anybody has 
that.  
YODER:  That's a good question.  Like is it past the committee phase now?  When we 
were working on it, it was, oh there's a committee.  It's three people there.  But now it's 
not in the committee.  I wonder if that's officially -- like, we could do that and share it.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Yeah, the way I see it, Tim, it's still pending.   
YODER:  Okay.   
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of took it.  So if we want to pick up a third, there's no problem with that.  
TITUS:  I would nominate and recommend Chandler to be the third then on the 
committee, with his history and experience.  Pete, if you don't mind just providing 
information and resources and support.  
GALLAGHER:  I think that's a great idea.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Okay.  
YODER:  Well, if that can be done, I'd second that motion.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Okay.  We need a vote on that.  All in favor?  
ALL:  Aye.  
ALL:  Aye.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Anybody opposed?  Okay.  So we'll add that and we'll see about how we 
want to pick this up again. 
YODER:  So let's talk about it again next meeting in February.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Sure.  Yeah.  I think it'll still be on the agenda.  
YODER:  All right.  Good.  
CHAIR BURNS:  And I'll try and get with Ryan between then, now and then and see what 
his direction or thoughts might be.   
Next item discussion and possible action 250th anniversary of the USA.  Kevin, can you 
give us an update on what the council action was in December that moved this along?  
SNIPES:  Sure.  We now have secured funding.  Some of the funding is spoken for.  Some 
of it is not.  Up on the big screen you can see -- or the screens behind us.  These are the 
banners that will be being installed.  I believe it's next week or the following week.  So 
we are moving forward with that.   
They have been ordered and are supposed to come in, end of this week or early next 
week.  So we're excited to get that ball rolling.  And so I just wanted to bring them down 
to show you.  No one's seen them, but we'll let you guys see them so you can at least 
get an idea of what we're looking at, and the angle that we used for the logos kind of 
blending ours with the US.  And so I think they did a good job with them, and it'll look 
good going down the avenue as well.

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We have 100,000 that's been approved.  We're going to be securing a – I’ll call him a 
middle-of-the road artist for our 4th of July.  And we have that finalized, but we haven't 
pushed out who it's going to be yet, so I'll keep that a secret for Ryan to share later.  So 
that took part of it, and this took part of it.   
And then we're looking at all sorts of other options.  And so it is a rapidly moving trying 
to get some ideas together for what we purchase, how we do it, you know, from 
tchotchkes (phonetic) to events that we're running, and how we can incorporate 
different things.  And so, as there is ideas that come forth, make sure that you share 
them with us.  I know there's a committee working on it.  So anytime we get 
information, if we want to share it, the quicker the better always  because it is a moving 
target.  And when we see opportunities, we try and jump on it before the money 
disappears to where we can get what we feel is the best things that we can afford to get 
with the money for it.   
But it is going to be a big year next year with trying to tie in and see this tie-in through 
our events that we’ll be doing all year long.  So I think it'll be a fun year of doing things 
like this.  One that we got kind of cheated out of for the 50th of the fountain with COVID 
stealing our thunder.  So it was a lot of planning and zero action, and that was not fun.  
So we'll see what we can do with this.  
KLINE:  So talking about that, one of the things that you had for the 50th anniversary 
was that giant 50 down by the fountain.  And I know I took photos down there, and if we 
could do something like that, where you can get the fountain in the picture and the 
250th and Fountain Hills name, and it would be good publicity for the Town and for the 
event.  
SNIPES:  Yeah, I know that that's one of the things that has been being discussed is 
figuring out a way to redo that.  But stealing this logo’s impression on it so that I know 
that that's something that's being talked about right now.  
CHAIR BURNS:  I see here that in this Council staff report, there's discussion of branding 
stuff regarding to T-shirts and commemorative items, branded materials to distributed 
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something like that.  Those are all on the table, but nothing really firm.  
SNIPES:  We've started discussions with State 48, who's done our town shirts and 
working on a new design for the 4th.  And so that's where the shirts come from.  So 
that's a good one that I'd forgotten about,  but yeah, that one they are working on 
actively.  And I know that like doing a movie in the park with a themed movie, but the 
movies hasn't been selected.  We're just compiling a list.  And then once we get that list 
compiled, then we'll beat each other up until we figure out which one seems the best 
and go from there and trying to make sure that we're family friendly.   
As we look backwards, we realize that PG didn't mean the same thing as it does today.  
And so you got to really watch the movie and go, yeah, we really can't show that movie 
and say it's kid friendly.  So those are kind of the obstacles that we're looking at as we 
look at the list as well.  
CHAIR BURNS:  So something like The Patriots probably not really on the list.  
KLINE:  I asked Betsy LaVoy about the Thanksgiving parade.  And she said that they 
announced the theme is going to be Happy 250th birthday for the Town.  So if we could 
get somebody, a marshal for the parade.  And I would really like to see us get local 
media attention and maybe national, looking at the Macy's parade.  
CHAIR BURNS:  That that's kind of up to the chamber.  
SNIPES:  Yeah, that's a chamber event.  So we would not have any input or any way to 
help out with their event, as they're the ones that are one hundred percent in charge of 
everything that happens at it.  
KLINE:  Okay.  Including publicity on that? 
SNIPES:  Yeah, one hundred percent.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Tiffany, did you have anything to add on this?  
TITIUS:  I did, Chairman Burns and Town representatives.  Regarding the 250 America 
250 initiative, I wanted to thank you for creating the working group, recognizing that the 
America 250, the 250th birthday is important.  I love that you did that, and for including 
us, and for listening to our advice and ideas to allow that working group -- us as a 
working group to come together and present ideas, and then to see that you're actually

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putting money behind the initiative is really exciting to see.  So I want to thank you for 
that.   
And then number two, I love the fact that you're asking and saying, hey, we need to 
connect with other partners, community, regional events to see who's doing what, 
who's doing what activities, and to coordinate that and to feed you information as we 
go.   
My concept was to extend  not the working group necessarily, but create a new 
initiative by our commission that is a sort of a round table, or I'm going to pass it off to 
Chandler, like almost like an alliance, as you called it, but an ability for us as, as 
commission commissioners to reach out to partners, potential partners and community, 
other regional community leaders to say, hey, what are you guys doing to coordinate 
dates, times, events, artists potential just to coordinate better.   
And I'd love to offer us as a commission to be that party that helps do that in a 
nonpolitical, nongovernment, noncommittal way, if that makes sense.  But Chandler, I'm 
going to pass it off to him.  Beyond the working group of the America 250 initiative, his 
idea broadens that whole concept a bit.  Thank you.  
HARPER:  Yeah, and I plan to discuss this maybe in the future agenda items potentially, 
but just to maybe jump around a little bit and kind of go off of that.  Yeah.  I did want to 
discuss today -- either today or next meeting potentially how we could go about 
partnering with other towns, historic commissions, or local historical societies or even 
shippo and sort of building a relationship with those other --  
CHAIR BURNS:  Yeah, I agree with that discussion, but I believe that would be a separate 
agenda item, so we'd probably be looking at that for a future agenda.  
HARPER:  That works for me.  
YODER:  Let's add that to next meeting.  
KLINE:  So I have one other -- I think Tiffany had this idea about the 250 trees, and 
there's that new little park down at the end of El Lago that looks a little sparse, and I 
don't know what the landscaping plans are for that, but that seems like an opportunity 
there.

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CHAIR BURNS:  What park is that? 
KLINE:  The one as you go down El Lago. 
SNIPES:  Panorama, the new Pocket Park --  
KLINE:  Panorama or Palisades.  
CHAIR BURNS:  I think Kevin's done with that.  
SNIPES:  Yeah.  So the way that that's planted is so that all those plants can grow to full 
size.  They're small right now, but they won't be when they grow up.  And so it's one of 
the biggest problems we have in the industry of landscaping and architecture is 
everybody likes to see it look full when it's new, and then all the plants grow together 
and no one can tell the difference between one plant and another, and they end up 
shearing them every other day to make sure that no blooms ever happen on any plants.  
We're against that.  
 And so we plant them at a distance that makes it so that when they're full grown, they 
can be six foot wide and eight foot tall, or they can be three foot wide and two foot tall, 
depending on the type of plant.  So we try and use the type of plant to determine our 
spacing in the plants that are there.  And by starting with plants being smaller, they do 
way better than if you start with plants that are larger because they're more adaptable.  
No different than a kid rebounds way quicker than what I would if I got hurt.  And so by 
making sure that we're – in over a year or two, those plants will outgrow plants that are 
much larger when they're planted.  So yeah, as far as that space goes, 250 trees in that 
area would end up being a jungle, not a pocket park.  
KLINE:  Thank you.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Okay.  Are we set on 250?  Okay.  Historic art and essay contest.  
Anything new there?  That will be getting pretty close to initiating that and getting the 
kids in action.  
SNIPES:  Yeah, I don't have anything new on that.  I just know it's out.  
CHAIR BURNS:  And Tim or Peter, you got anything?  
GALLAGHER:  No.  What I remember from our last meeting was that there was some 
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YODER:  That's right.  I recall that, and he was going to have a conversation with the 
superintendent, if I remember correctly.   
GALLAGHER:  Yes.   
YODER:  And get back to us after the break.  That'll be February, I guess.  
SNIPES:  And I know that those are all out.  And so we're just waiting on those to come 
back.  And as they come back in then, then we'll start sharing them with the group to go 
over.  But I know that he did mention the school and got everything passed out.  And 
they've been sharing it around to get people involved with it.  
GALLAGHER:  Yeah, I'm just reading the words in the agenda here.  It says we plan to 
start pushing the project in late January.  
SNIPES:  Yep.  We're there.   
GALLAGHER:  Excellent.  
SNIPES:  So thank you.  
CHAIR BURNS:  So basically it's on schedule.  All right.  Discussion and possible action on  
public art information updates.  Kevin or Tony, you got anything you can add on that?  
LEPOER:  I don't have anything new.  I know that Ryan -- I don't have anything new.  I 
know Ryan’s been diligently working on it.  He was going to send me the link to try and 
go back, if he could, to see what's going on, but I haven't gotten that link yet so.  Do you 
know of anything new?  
SNIPES:  Well, we have a few different things coming.  So one is the International Dark 
Sky Discovery Center artwork that you guys approved.  Didn't turn out to be as valuable 
as what they thought it was, and it was the stipulation that we had when it was voted 
on and approved is that as long as it meets the guidelines.  Well, it didn't.  So they are 
going back out to procure another piece of art to meet their match that they need to do.  
Once that happens, they will be bringing it back to you for approval before it goes to 
Town Council.  And I haven't heard anything lately.  I haven't seen anything as to if they 
found anything.  So I don't have more information than the fact that they just needed to 
have more artwork to meet their numbers that they have to match.  But outside of that 
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I know Ryan was definitely working on the SeeMyLegacy stuff to add in the art walk to 
it's something that we're incorporating through our parks and our trail systems, using 
those QR codes with the company, SeeMyLegacy.  We've just started touching the tip of 
the iceberg, so to speak.  We have one hundred QR codes to put out.  We put several in 
the botanical garden when we had their anniversary earlier this year or last year.  Let's 
go backwards.  And they worked really well for that as well.  So I know he had been 
working on the Centennial Circle area, and he's working his way out from there.  So I 
think we'll be able to do a lot of really cool things with this thought process of adding 
things.   
Kind of art related is also we're doing the informational signs, just kind of a heads up 
around the fountain.  And those will have QR codes that guide you to the art as well.  On 
certain ones, each one's a little different, I know there was a lot of activity that was 
supported here with this group on getting those going.  We're in our final phases of 
review right now.   
We have a designer that started helping us out with those maybe a month or month and 
a half ago.  It's a project that we've been working on for, I don't know, I think it's been 
three or four years now.  It feels like forever.  And I was kind of spearheading the push 
of it.  And then through staffing issues, multiple, and then starting over again, that one 
kind of fell to the wayside a little bit.  So I'm excited that we're finally at a spot where 
we're getting ready to get those printed out.   
We're hoping to have those out into January, early February.  Once we get the final 
renditions, we can send it out to this committee so you guys can see it.  I know that you 
guys were actively involved.  And so I want to make sure that you guys get a chance to 
see it, too, before everybody else does.  So we'll share that with you.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Okay.  No public art applications on for this meeting, I guess.  And let's 
see.  Next meeting date for February is Wednesday the 4th.  Future agenda items, I've 
got a couple here I'd like to see.   
I discussed this with you earlier, Kevin, about  maybe presentation from Amanda 
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public/private admiration (phonetic).  So I'd like to hear from her on just exactly what 
they're planning and what, if anything, is the role for this group going forward on that?  
just to give you an idea, it's got to do with working with various building owners in town 
to consider mural projects on their property, on their walls and stuff.   
And I don't know if there was any other presentations we had scheduled for February or 
not.  I seem to recall some discussions, but I don't know.  And Chandler's idea on 
information on interacting with other groups so we can get some clarity and ideas with 
regard to that.  And I was trying to think whether I had something else.  Yeah.  It escapes 
me if I did.  Anybody else have anything they'd like to put up, propose?  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Other than the obvious review of the contest and such, no, 
nothing new.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Okay.  Yeah.  The regular items that are on here are  fine.  Okay.  That 
being it, I'll entertain a motion for adjournment here at about 4:35.   
HARPER:  Second.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Did we have a motion and a second?  
MR. HARPER:  I thought you were the motion.  I'll motion for adjournment.  
LEPOER:  I'll second that.  
CHAIR BURNS:  Okay.  
CHAIR BURNS:  All those in favor?  
ALL:  Aye.  
CHAIR BUNS:  Okay.  We are adjourned for now.  Thank you all.

Having no further business, Chairperson Burns adjourned the Regular Meeting of the 
History and Culture Advisory Commission meeting held on January 7, 2026, at 4:35 p.m. 
 
 
TOWN OF FOUNTAIN HILLS  
 
 
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Bob Burns, Chairperson 
 
 
ATTEST AND PREPARED BY: 
 
 
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Stormy Mazeikis, Administrative Assistant 
 
 
 
CERTIFICATION 
 
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and correct copy of the 
minutes of the Regular Meeting held by the History and Culture Advisory 
Commission of Fountain Hills in the Town Hall Council Chambers on the 7th of 
January 2026. I further certify that the meeting was duly called and that a quorum 
was present. 
 
DATED this 4th Day of February 2026. 
 
 
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Stormy Mazeikis, Administrative Assistant