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TOWN OF FOUNTAIN HILLS 
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING 
OF THE FOUNTAIN HILLS TOWN COUNCIL 
DECEMBER 16, 2025 
 
 
 
 
A Regular Meeting of the Fountain Hills Town Council was convened at 16705 E. 
Avenue of the Fountains in open and public session at 5:30 p.m. 
 
Members Present: Mayor Gerry M. Friedel; Councilmember Gayle Earle; 
Councilmember Brenda J. Kalivianakis; Councilmember Rick Watts; Vice Mayor 
Allen Skillicorn; Councilmember Hannah Larrabee; Councilmember Peggy 
McMahon 
 
 
Staff Present: Town Manager Rachael Goodwin; Town Clerk Bevelyn Bender; 
Town Attorney Jennifer Wright

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MAYOR FRIEDEL:  I'd like to call this meeting to order.  If you would please rise, if you 
choose, for the invocation that will be done by Pastor Keith Pavia from Christ Church in 
Fountain Hills.  I'm sorry.  We'll start with the pledge first.  I'm sorry.   
ALL:  (Pledge of Allegiance). 
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  And now we'll have Pastor Keith.  Thank you.  
PASTOR PAVIA:  Thank you so much.  Thank you, Mayor and council, for having me here.  
I'm honored to be able to deliver the invocation today.  Dear God, I come tonight to ask 
for godly direction and guidance as we discuss things that help in -- are the best interest 
of this town.  Help us to forget our differences and let them work together for the 
betterment of this town.  Keep our focus on integrity and character, not personal 
preference, and let this meeting go on with no interruptions.  In Jesus name we pray, 
amen.  Merry Christmas.   
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Town clerk, can I have a roll call, please?  
MS. BENDER:  Mayor Friedel.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Present.  
MS. BENDER:  Vice mayor Skillicorn.  
MR. SILLICORN:  Present.  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Earle. 
MS. EARLE:  Present.  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Kalivianakis.  
MS. KALIVIANAKIS:  Here.  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Watts. 
MR. WATTS:   Present. 
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Larrabee. 
MS. LARRABEE:  Here.   
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember McMahon. 
MS. MCMAHON:  Here.   
MS. BENDER:  Mayor, you have a quorum.

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MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Thank you.  We'll move on now to town manager.  
MS. GOODWIN:  Thank you, Mayor.  I have a number of updates from things that 
happened this past weekend and a few updates about what's coming up.  So bear with 
me.  All right.   
This past Saturday, the community center hosted the season celebration, which was a 
wonderful evening filled with holiday cheer.  The free event brought together more than 
900 community members of all ages for a festive celebration.  Guests enjoyed live music 
by the Fountain Hills Saxophone Quartet, 24 beautifully decorated trees, and the halls 
were decked with handmade quilts and wreaths.  Families took photos with Santa, 
participated in a Santa dance along, enjoyed craft stations and cookie decorating, where 
more than 32 dozen cookies were decorated.   They also visited their hot cocoa bar, 
sponsored by Calvary Chapel Fountain Hills, where they served more than 600 cups of 
hot cocoa, so there's no shortage.    Yes, the outdoor play zone featured bounce houses, 
a ride on train,  and games capturing the spirit of the season.   
On Sunday, the Chabad of Fountain Hills hosted a well-attended menorah lighting 
ceremony, bringing residents together for an evening of tradition, reflection, and 
community.  The event served as a meaningful opportunity to celebrate the season, 
share in the symbolism of light, and strengthen the sense of unity that defines our town 
during the holidays.   
Shifting gears a little bit, our public works crews continue our wash maintenance 
activities with a primary focus on Ashbrook Wash, which is the Town's largest and 
widest wash, and conveys the greatest volume of water runoff.  Progress has been 
slower than anticipated due to storms, heavy vegetation, and instances of unauthorized 
dumping.  Crews are currently working in the segment between Fountain Hills Boulevard 
and Bayfield, and we appreciate the community's patience as this important work 
continues.   
We also wanted to remind residents that Thursday, so that's not tomorrow, but this 
coming Thursday, the day after, is our third Thursday concert series.  It continues at 
Centennial Pavilion from 6 to 7:30.  We have a nice little crowd out there.  It's a little

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chilly, but that's okay.  We encourage you to bring blankets, chairs, maybe a snack.   This 
month's performance will feature the Sugar Thieves.  So please join us and enjoy an 
evening of live music on Thursday.   
We also kicked off the Light Up the Town program, which is our annual light display.  It 
features 19 homes throughout the community.  The program started this week and runs 
through December 31st, offering a festive, family-friendly way to experience holiday 
lights and enjoy the season.  An interactive map is available through Experience 
Fountain Hills, so you can pull it up on your phone.  It pops into your Google, and you 
can make your way throughout the Town to visit all of the participating homes.   There's 
also voting for your favorites, so enjoy that throughout the season.   I will say it's always 
a fun thing when you have an evening open with no plans.  
 Looking ahead into the 2026., this is the -- we wanted to remind everyone that the 
Mayor State of The Town address will take place at the community center on January 
28th.  We look forward to sharing highlights of the past year and priorities for the year 
ahead.  The public is invited to join us, and registration is now open through the Town's 
website.  With that Mayor, those are my updates.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Thank you.  And now we'll start with our other agenda items.  So we'll 
start with the Mayor's Veteran of the Month recognition.  So this month's veteran is Joe 
Arpaio, known as America's toughest sheriff.  Was born on Flag Day, June 14th, 1932, in 
Springfield, Massachusetts.  Joe worked for his father's grocery store throughout his 
childhood, and after graduating high school in 1950, Joe volunteered to serve in the US 
Army when the Korean War began.   
Joe was deployed to Nice, France, attached to a medical unit, and in two years he rose 
to the rank of staff sergeant.  After being honorably discharged from the Army in 1953, 
Joe stayed in the U.S. Army Reserves as a warrant officer for the Criminal Investigation 
Division and became a police officer in Washington, D.C., and afterwards in Las Vegas, 
Nevada, at the age of 25.   
Joe married his wife, Ava, and was sworn in as a federal agent for the U.S. Bureau of 
Narcotics, now known as the DEA, in Chicago, Illinois, before being appointed special

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agent in charge of covering Turkey and the Middle East.  During his 26-year career with 
the DEA, Joe also served as regional director, covering Mexico, Central and South 
America.  Joe served as the Deputy regional director for the Boston, Massachusetts and 
Baltimore, Maryland regions, and special agent in charge of the agency's offices in San 
Antonio, Texas, Washington, D.C., and Phoenix, Arizona.   
In 1992, Joe was elected Sheriff of Maricopa County, where he presided over the third-
largest sheriff's office in the United States with over 5,000 employees.  Joe was elected 
to serve for 24 years, the longest-serving sheriff in Maricopa County history.   
Joe, would you please come up and accept this recognition?   Okay.  You got a hot mic 
here.  
MR. ARPAIO:  You got a cold guy here.  You said I have a hot -- What did you say?  Hot?  
He said I have a hot mic.  I don't know about that, but anyway, thanks.  And I want to 
congratulate you, actually, for initiating this new program.  And I want to thank you and 
the Council for what they've done on this program.  Very, very excited.  
 I have been a -- I started at ten-years old, but I've been a American Legion for 60 years.  
And in my career, after the army, became a federal guy and have traveled with many 
presidents.  
 I'm not getting into politics, but I do say that because one thing I really was angry at, 
and every speech I have given, I'm not going to do it here --  around the country,  I 
always said, I don't like the way they treated Vietnam dedicated military fighting for our 
country.  I made that a big mission around this country for years and years and years.  
That's awful what they did to our military who were only fighting for our country.  So I 
haven't given up on that one.  That's been one of my top priorities in my elected 
function and others.   
So I want to thank you.  Thank you for coming up with this concept, which I believe is 
every month.   
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Correct.   
MR. ARPAIO:  So that's a great concept.  I don't think anyone --  and I've been around 
the world.  I don't think anybody has come up with a formalized concept like this, for

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every month, celebrate our military and pick out a recipient that deserved that honor.  
So I'm very humble, very humble for being selected by you, the Council, and the 
committee, and your staff.  Never forget the people that work for you.  So that's what I 
have to say.  I have my daughter here.  I'm not going to plug her business since I like 
coffee anyway, but she -- where's Sherry at?  Where's my daughter?   Sherry, come on 
up for a minute.  
 Can I have a minute with my daughter?   
So I have to apologize to my daughter and my son, Rocco.  He can't make it.  She's 
laughing.  She didn't really see her father.  You remember?  
SHERRY:  Oh, yeah.  
MR. ARPAIO:  No, never saw me.  I was always out working in the hills of Turkey, 
everywhere.  And my wife, her mother, did a great job raising my kids.  And as she's up 
there now, she will be very proud.  
 So we never should forget our families, our families, our military families.  What they 
have to put up to, it isn't easy.  And she went through this.  She turned out okay.  That's 
because she probably never saw me.  But she turned out okay, my daughter.   
And so I leave you with this.  Always remember your families, especially the military, law 
enforcement.  Families deserve credit too.  So I want to wish you all a happy -- can I say 
Merry Christmas?  Merry Christmas, New year's.   
And once again, all of you, thanks for your support.  We may have some differences, but 
I love all you guys.  I love Fountain Hills.  I think I've been here 38 years. protecting you 
guys.  Anyway, thank you very much.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  And now we'll move on to our Stellar Students recognition.  And we're 
going to have the Councilmembers read those recognitions tonight, starting with the 
vice mayor and then going down the line.  Vice mayor.  
MR. SILLICORN:  Thank you, Mr. Mayor.   Much better.  Thank you, Mr. Mayor.  So I 
actually have the privilege and honor of introducing everyone to Misha Manhas 
(phonetic).  Come on up.  Come on up, Misha.  So the comments she gets from her 
teachers are "I am delighted to nominate Misha as a Stellar Student of our Little Falcons

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Preschool.  She is a joy to have in her class, polite, caring, always eager to help both her 
classmates and teachers.  Misha is a wonderful friend to everyone and well-liked by her 
peers.  Her academic growth has been remarkable, and we couldn't be more proud of 
her progress.  She comes to school each day with a happy heart and greets her teachers, 
" as we can, see here "with a bright smile.  Misha is so deserving of this special 
recognition."  Congratulations, Misha.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Good evening.  I have the honor of recognizing Axel Wilson 
(phonetic).  If you're here, please come on up.  Oh, what a cutie.   
"Axel is a wonderful nominee for Stellar Student.  He brings a great sense of humor and 
vivid imagination to our classroom each day.  Axel is eager to learn how things work and 
loves sharing his discoveries with his peers.  Nothing gets by him.  He is incredibly 
observant and a thoughtful, deep thinker.  Watching his growth has been truly exciting.  
Axel is a loyal friend to all and always brings a positive attitude.  Your teacher is so proud 
of you."  She says congratulations.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  I'll start with Ms. Nora Zanella (phonetic) from the elementary 
school.  Nora, hi.  
"Nora is a bright light in our classroom.:  And this is from Ms. Val Reichler.  "She is 
always ready"  to prepare -- she is always ready "and prepared to learn.  She maintains a 
positive attitude, even when she faces challenges.  She is kind to all her friends and 
maintains positive relationships.  She is always willing to lend a helping hand.  She 
always follows the Falcon way and truly is a joy to have in class."  So thank you Nora.  
And next from the elementary school is Royce Montgomery.  This is also from -- oh, 
teacher Holly Delano (phonetic).   So Royce, is Royce here?  Well, that's okay, I'll read 
about him anyway.   
"Royce is always happy and carries a positive attitude.  He follows directions and works 
hard.  He always tries his best and never gives up.  He loves music and loves to dance.  
He keeps us entertained.  He is a kind student and a great friend to all of his 
classmates."  Let's hear it for Royce.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  (Indiscernible)  Middle school.  I never can get that to work.

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"Harlow is not only a high achieving I-21 honors student, she is also a talented artist and 
a gifted athlete.  Harlow is very quiet and focuses her energy on submitting excellent, 
neat, and well thought out work.  Her artwork, handwriting ,and notes are always 
thorough and beautifully designed.  She runs on our cross-country teams and competes 
in races with her family."  Harlow I hope you beat the mayor last on the Turkey Trot.  
"Harlow is also polite, kind, thoughtful, respectful with classmates and teachers.  She's a 
lovely young lady. " Let's hear it for Harlow.   
And next up we have Mason Berber-Hibbs (phonetic).  Mason is also from Fountain Hills 
Middle School.  "Mason is a quiet, clever, and thoughtful young man who is a scholar 
and an athlete.  He always follows the Falcon way.  He is an inquisitive student, creative 
thinker, and hard worker.  He has joined the I-21 program and is excelling.  He is friendly 
with everyone and always respectful and hardworking in class to teachers and peers.  
Mason is a new member to the FHMS cross-country team and has already shown 
himself to be competitive and hard working at practice.  We are proud of his hard work 
and delighted he is one of our fabulous Falcons.  Thank you Mason."  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Thank you, Jerry.  I'm delighted tonight to introduce to you 
Liliana Villafane (phonetic), whose teacher, Cassidy Robbins, says, "Earlier this week, I 
saw an interaction with Liliana and a brand-new student where she made them feel so 
welcome and gave them a sense of belonging.  It showed me that she can be a great 
leader and showed much compassion for her peers.  It can be so challenging coming to a 
new school, where you feel like you don't know anybody.  Thank you Liliana, for being 
so friendly and warm to your fellow student."  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  And I have the pleasure of introducing to you, Logan, and I 
think it's Reedy (phonetic).  Are you here, Logan?  Did I say it right?  Oh, great.  And your 
teacher, Patty Schultz, would like me to tell you that "Logan was a member of the swim 
team this past season.  He's encouraging, hardworking, and builds up his teammates.  
Logan helps when needed and does the right thing.  During the swim season, he cares 
about his school and representing the Falcon way.  Way to go, Logan!" 
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Now, if you guys want to stand right in front of the Council here, we'll

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get a picture of all of us together.  
(Group photo taken) 
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Thank you to all of our students.  Now we'll move on with the Mayor's 
Business Spotlight.  And tonight's business that we're spotlighting is Cheryl's of Fountain 
Hills.  Today, we're recognizing Tom and Cheryl Katz and celebrating an incredible 
milestone of 27 years in business here in Fountain Hills.   
Tom and Cheryl first opened their doors in the Bashas shopping center back in 1998.  At 
that time, Cheryl was designing homes, from floor to ceiling, while working with working 
for her brother.  Over the years, she completed design work for nearly 500 
condominium and resort properties across Tucson, Casa Grande, and Fountain Hills, and 
Scottsdale.   
As they approached their first decade in business, Tom and Cheryl began exploring a 
new direction selling clothing.  They started with just a small section of a store, but 
when the housing crisis hit in 2008, they knew they had to pivot quickly.  That decision 
ultimately led them to the boutique we now know and love today, which is on the 
Avenue of the Fountains.   
In 2016, Cheryl moved from the Bashas Center to their current location on the Avenue 
of the Fountains.  Today, Cheryl's of Fountain Hills is a locally owned boutique known for 
its curated collection of women's clothing, jewelry, handbags and unique accessories.  
And I know that firsthand because my wife shops there quite a bit.   
Beyond their business success, Tom and Cheryl have been tremendous community 
partners.  Tom serves as an active member of the Avenue Merchants Association, 
helping to strengthen and support our downtown businesses.  And with the ongoing 
need for additional restrooms in the downtown Fountain Hills area, Tom and Cheryl 
generously opened their doors to our Farmers Market vendors.  A small act that has 
made a big difference for the farmers market.   
Tom and Cheryl, thank you for your service.  You provide to our town, for your 
dedication to our business community, and for being part of the heart of downtown 
Fountain Hills.  We are grateful for your 27 years.  Thank you.

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(Photo taken) 
MR. KATZ:  Thank you, Mayor.  We have been really fortunate to be in Fountain Hills.  
We're so lucky to be able to live and work in the Town that we really love 27 years, AND 
we're going to hope for 27 more.  That'll put us, you know --  I think we're just getting 
started.  So anyway, thank you again, everybody.  I really appreciate the support that 
the community has given us to allow us to work and thrive in Fountain Hills.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Awesome.  Thank you.  
MS. KATZ:  Your wife was in the other day.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:   She was.  Do you want to tell everybody that? 
Thank you guys.  And so now we'll move on to a proclamation that I have recognizing 
our Sister City Relationships and honoring Italian culture.  So tonight, the Town of 
Fountain Hills proudly celebrates the spirit of friendship that enriches our community, 
our sister cities, Ataco in El Salvador.  Dierdorf and Germany, and Zamosc in Poland. 
Each share with us pieces of their hearts, their heritage, their traditions, and their 
beautiful languages.   These relationships remind us that, even across oceans, people 
can be united through understanding, respect, and goodwill.  
 We also honor the Italian community, whose rich culture and language continue to 
inspire Fountain Hills and deepen our shared sense of cultural pride.  These connections 
are more than symbolic.  They help shape who we are as a town.  They bring us new 
perspectives, new friendships, and a deeper appreciation for the world around us.  They 
remind us that our community is stronger, richer, and more vibrant because of the 
cultures that touch our lives.  
 On behalf of myself and this Town council, we express our heartfelt gratitude for these 
international friendships, and for the joy, meaning, and cultural beauty that they bring 
to Fountain Hills.  And these connections are really important.  So with that, I know 
there's people here from Sister Cities, and I think Steve is here from the Italian Club in 
town.  So if you'll both come up, I have these to present to you, and then I'll let you say 
a couple of words if you'd like.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Guten abend, liebe ist und freund und Herr Bürgermeister.

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Good evening, friends, Mayor, and council.  What an honor it is to be recognized for our 
efforts here in town.  It is such a pleasure to see folks enjoying different countries when 
they go with us on our trips.  And most beneficial is that we are giving students here in 
Fountain Hills an opportunity to experience a culture outside of their comfort zone.  And 
these kids, when they come back from the trips, they have life-changing experiences.  
They've been to Ataco, they've been to Zamosc, and they've been to Germany.  We just 
had 12 students come from Zamosc, and we're going to be sending a group in the spring 
time to Germany.  It is a pleasure to see the results of our efforts from these kids.  
Thank you very much for this honor.  And we are celebrating 25 years as our 
organization in Fountain Hills.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Thank you, Mayor.  Thank you council.  Thank you Christine 
and everybody else here from Sister Cities.  Being Italian, the reason I wore a Santa 
Clause hat is because Santa Clause is buried in Bari, Italy.  So that's, you know -- (Italian).  
And we have great news.  We've been talking with an Italian, possible Sister City in 
Bassano del Grappa.  It's where my parents are from or right around the area, and they 
want to talk to the mayor, and they want to extend everything.  So it's really a great 
Christmas gift if all goes well.  (Italian).  Merry Christmas to everybody.  Bonne tali.  
Thank you mayor.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  I would like to extend Merry Christmas  (Polish) to all of you 
from Zamosc, Poland.  Thank you kindly.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  And real quick, I just want to give greetings from our 
ambassador, Enrique Melendez, who started Ataco.  He couldn't be here tonight.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Thank you.  
Okay.  So we'll move on to our -- we don't have any presentations tonight.  We'll move 
on to our consent agenda.  If I can get a motion.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Motion to approve consent agenda.   
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Second.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  We have a motion and a second town clerk.  Can we take a roll call, 
please?

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MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Earle.  
MS. EARLE:  Aye. 
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Larrabee. 
MS. LARRABEE:  Aye.  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember McMahon.  
MS. MCMAHON:  Aye.  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Kalivianakis.  
KALIVIANAKIS:   Aye. 
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Watts.  
MR. WATTS:  Aye.  
MS. BENDER:  Vice mayor Skillicorn.  
MR. SKILLICORN:  Yes.  
MS. BENDER:  And Mayor Friedel.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Aye.  
MS. BENDER:  Mayor, 7-0. 
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Thank you.  And we'll move on to our regular agenda.  So tonight 
there is a subcommittee's recommendation for the Town's Community Service Advisory 
Commission to appoint one youth commissioner to serve a partial term from December 
17th, 2025 through June 22nd, 2026.  So I, mayor Jerry Friedel, moved to approve Adam 
Oberg (phonetic) as the Community Services Advisory Youth Commissioner to serve this 
partial term, and I request a second on that motion.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Second.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Okay.  We have a motion and a second.  Can we get a roll call, please?  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Earle.  
MS. EARLE:  Aye.  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember McMahon.  
MS. MCMAHON:  Aye.   
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Larrabee. 
MS. LARRABEE:   Aye.

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MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Kalivianakis.   
KALIVIANAKIS:   Aye.   
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember  Watts.  
MR. WATTS:  Aye.  
MS. BENDER:  Vice Mayor Skillicorn.   
MR. SILLICORN:  Yes.   
MS. BENDER:  And Mayor Friedel.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Aye.  
MS. BENDER:  Mayor, 7-0.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Thank you.  And we'll move on to item B on the agenda, which is  -- 
I'm opening a public hearing.  So this is dealing with the with ordinance related to 
rezoning the area bounded by La Montana.  Rachel Goodwin, Town manager.  
MS. GOODWIN:  Yes, thank you mayor.  The item is going to be presented tonight by 
Director Wesley.  It's the adoption of the Downtown Overlay District.  This has been 
something that we've talked about quite a bit.  I believe it also went through our 
planning and zoning.  So John, with that, can you give us an update of where we are?  
MR. WESLEY:  Yes, Mayor and council, good evening.  I'll go through this fairly quickly 
because we have had several discussions about the ordinance itself.  So back September 
2nd, the Town council approved a new chapter 217 to the zoning ordinance, which is 
the Downtown Overlay District.  It's been developed and intended to replace two 
existing overlay districts within the downtown area.   
As part of this rezoning process, we follow the same standards and requirements of any 
other rezoning, with notice being mailed to all property owners, posting the area, 
publishing in the newspaper.  Over the last few weeks, while that's been out, I've 
received a few phone calls and emails, particularly from people north of Palisades, 
concerned a little bit about what might happen in the Innovation District, which is the 
area north of Palisades, up to Saguaro.   And then a couple of owners within the area 
had some questions, but really it's been relatively quiet on that front.   
So existing we have C2 zoning mostly in the downtown area with one little spot of three

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C3PD, and then the area bounded by the yellow.  We have the two existing overlay 
districts, entertainment and planned shopping plaza overlays.   The proposal is again to 
replace the two existing overlays and extend the overlay area to include the portion 
north of Palisades with a new downtown overlay.   
So your action tonight is whether or not to remove the two overlay districts and apply 
the new one.  It's not really a discussion of the ordinance itself.  You've already 
approved the new ordinance, but for the public who may not be aware of the provisions 
of that, I've got a few brief slides here that cover the provisions of the ordinance.   
So again, the Downtown Overlay District is divided into three sub-areas, the Innovation 
District north of Palisades, the Business District through the middle, and then the 
Avenue District along the Avenue and a portion of Verde River. 
In the Avenue District, it limits the uses to primarily the active retail, commercial 
entertainment, restaurant type uses along the Avenue within 50 feet of the street.  It  
continues to permit the outdoor entertainment activities but allows those to be 
approved by staff and not have to come to the Town council.  Allows residential above 
the ground floor at 35 units per acre, and no residential on the ground floor. 
In the Business District, again allows the same uses, but expands it to also include the 
office uses.  So we're looking for more employment type activities as well as the retail in 
this area.  It still allows for the outdoor entertainment, but in a slightly different venue 
in terms of requirements.  Outdoors, but not within the right-of-way necessarily.  I see 
I've got a typo here.  Increases residential density 35, not 350.  Forget that extra zero in 
there, per acre by right on upper floors.  But on the first floor with an SUP, so 35 not 
350.   
And the Innovation District north of Palisades again allows the various commercial uses, 
but it's being expanded to allow some employment uses there that wouldn't be allowed 
today, to facilitate some of the bioscience and other type uses happening in that area.  
Planning and zoning commission and staff recommend approval of this rezoning.  Any 
questions that you have of me at this time?  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilwoman Earle.

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MS. EARLE:  Thank you,  Mayor.  I have a question.   I didn't see in the packet that the -- 
well I saw in the packet one of the goals is for the new town strategy plan is to bring 
increased residential density.  But in the packet it didn't have the 35.  So that was going 
to be my question.  But now I see it's 35 units.  I would like to -- I could approve this, but 
I would like that reduced to 16 units if we can do amendment for that.  
MR. WESLEY:  Mayor, if I may.  So the action tonight is whether to rezone or not rezone.  
You don't have agendized -- it's not on your agenda to actually change anything within 
the chapter 27 zoning ordinance.  To do that, we'd would have to go back through P and 
Z for any of those types of changes.  
MS. EARLE:  Okay.  Well then I'll be a no tonight.  Thank you.  
MR. WATTS:  So John, was it unanimous from planning and zoning that to go to the 35 
units?  Was there any discussion?  
MR. WESLEY:  Mayor, Councilmember Watts, no, it was not.  It was unanimous for it to 
go to 50 breaker.  Council reduced it from 50 to 35.  
MR. WATTS:  Thank you.  
MR. WESLEY:  Excuse me.  I'm sorry.  It was not unanimous.  It was six to one.  But the 
issue there wasn't the 50 units per acre for the one that didn't vote for it.  Okay.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Thank you.  John, please clarify.  What we're looking at tonight 
is to determine whether or not to remove existing overlays and replace them.  That's all 
we're really looking at.  We're not looking at the units or anything else, correct? 
MR. WESLEY:  Mayor and councilmember, that is correct.   
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  So that's all we're voting on.  We're not changing the 
ordinance or anything else that has to do with the specifics of what can be built 
downtown or otherwise, right?  
MR. WESLEY:  That is correct.  That would take a separate action.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Okay.  I just need a clarification on it.  Thank you.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Do we have any comment cards?  
MS. BENDER:  Mayor, we have three cards.  First speaker is Larry Myers (phonetic), 
followed by Crystal Cavanaugh and then Shelby Blecher.

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MR. MYERS:  Larry Myers, resident 44 years.  So my 74- year-old brain didn't remember 
that the planning and zoning wanted 50, or I would have jumped up and strangled some 
of them.  And then I also didn't remember that you guys lowered the 50 to 35, so I 
would have probably been pretty pissed off about that too.  John's original 
recommendation was 15.   
And the reason I like all of this and I support it.  It's Amanda's -- She's got to have it in 
order to have some economic development.  But I think zoning in this high density of 
residential will actually zone out Amanda's ability to bring in economic development, 
because apartments are the biggest money maker for a builder.  So if I'm a developer, I 
come in, I offer a lot of high dollars to all those parcel owners in that one area.  I 
consolidate those parcels, and we have nothing more than a bunch of park places, 
which we have a problem with now anyway, and we've zoned out any potential extra 
land that maybe Amanda brings in a company and they say, well, I'd like to have across 
Palisades too.   
So I'm trying to save the land for business, not houses, apartments.  and 50 is really 
obtuse.  35 is almost Park Place, and right now by right it's 8.  And everybody loves the 
place next to the Thai restaurant and thinks it fits in.  So I would hope you guys would 
approve the overlay district but reduce the residential density to somewhere back 
towards the eight.  That would keep the character of the Town.   
We have the one side of the Avenue.  Hopefully Park Place finishes out some time in my 
lifetime.  And then the rest of the downtown would be more like the character of the 
other side of the Avenue and keep the landowners from consolidating into giant parcels 
where we could put things more, things like Park Place, and less things like Amanda's 
scientific and technology quest.  So thanks for the time.  Appreciate it.  And thank you.  
MS. CAVANAUGH:  Crystal Cavanaugh, resident of Fountain Hills.  Hopefully I'm on the 
target on what's being addressed, but I'm going to tell you my points anyway right now, 
because it will probably work into it somehow.  Because rezoning that area north of 
Palisades and along Saguaro could make sense.  You know, if it allows the Town to seek 
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That being said, I didn't really understand how this was all in one bucket, but I was 
looking at could the parcels be looked at with more specificity, while keeping in mind 
what would be suitable in Fountain Hills?  And the parcels have different owners, so if it 
was all rezoned at once, the most likely scenario is the one that was just talked about, 
with an apartment developer swooping in to buy them all.  And instead of our usual 8 
units per acre, to talk, about 35 units per acre seems ridiculous.   
There are already over 300 apartments approved in the target lot, which was 100 units 
beyond what our zoning had called for.  There's still over 250 Park Place apartments 
approved to be built.  There are apartments at the corner of Shea and Saguaro being 
built now.  50 to 70 mountainside apartments can be built, plus others in the north end 
of town.   
So changing the remainder of the Plat 208 to bring in high-density apartments doesn't 
seem to fit the vision for me.  And let's take Parkview, for example.  Think about a nice 
rooftop restaurant and bar at the corner with a view of the fountain, especially if it had 
a unique draw like a Buffalo Bills up in Show Low with its western theme.  A nice 
steakhouse with craft cocktails and a rooftop would be a nice addition.  Cave Creek has 
unique businesses that draw tourists and locals alike.  We have a Dark Sky Discovery 
Center coming and that will bring more visitors here.   Could we not seek out a business 
that complements that, maybe even with telescopes on a rooftop?  Be creative to create 
Fountain Hills as a destination stop.  
 More apartments are the easy way out.  And that's what makes me nervous about this.  
And it brings in part-time people who have less investments with us.  And I don't even 
know who thought jumping from 8 units per acre up to 35 sounded like a good idea, but 
allowing limited builds similar to the one just recently approved could work out, but 
certainly not on all the remaining parcels.   
So maybe Parkview is the real entertainment district with some imagination.  On-street 
parking is available on both sides.  Forget narrowing that street.  If people need to park 
further away, maybe an entrepreneur will start a new business shuttling people in a six-
person golf cart.  I'm requesting that you take your time on this one and really look at

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the end goals for what best suits Fountain Hills downtown.  Shea is very busy.  Make 
selections and decisions to divert some of that to Fountain Hills with a solid business 
overlay for economic development.  Thanks.  
MR. BLECHER:  Good evening, Mayor and Town council.  Shelby Blecher, resident of 
Fountain Hills.  As you know, I came from Los Angeles, which is a town which is very 
dense and continues to become even more dense.  Growing up there, there was always 
a community plan that was looked at, and it was always revised for more density and 
revised for more density and revised for more density.   You can't move around the 
Melrose and Fairfax area anymore.  It takes a half an hour to go two blocks, so be 
careful what you ask for here.  
 I understand this is like an up-and-down vote.  You're either going to approve the 
overlay and allow 35 units per acre or you're not.  I say 35 units per acre is way too 
many.  It's just going down the road that other towns are going to, where you're going 
to choke yourselves to death, and no one's going to be happy, and no one's going to 
benefit from it.  We're going to lose our small town feel, and it's not going to feel any 
more like a Hallmark town.  It's going to feel more and more like downtown Phoenix.  
Please, just please vote no on this.  Thank you.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Vice mayor 
MR. STILLICORN:  Thank you, Mr. Mayor.  And I just want to ask you a question.  Are you 
going to close the hearing before accepting a motion, or you're just looking for 
comments right now, or what's the plan there?  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Typically I close the hearing and then we ask for a motion.  
MR. STILLICORN:  Okay.  And I'd just like to make a comment.  So I am concerned about 
the density.  And it is interesting hearing some comments from the public, especially 
about Los Angeles. and a little story.  Give me a little bit of leeway.  It's not long ago I 
was camping in Big Bear, and I was hiking on the southwest side of the mountain, and I 
could look down and see Los Angeles.  Yet you couldn't see Los Angeles because it was 
covered in smog.   
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envisioned what was going to happen, and had appropriate zoning and appropriate 
density, Los Angeles wouldn't be like that.  It would be a great place to live.  But you 
wouldn't have the pollution.  You wouldn't have the traffic.  You wouldn't have the 
crime.  You wouldn't have the homelessness, if you just had the appropriate density.  
And that leads us to where we are here.  We are at the perfect town in Arizona.  Why 
would we want to screw it up?  So that's all.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilman Watts.  
MR. WATTS:  John, just so I'm clear, being an up-and-down vote, we could, if the vote 
failed, bring this back.  Or does it have to go to planning and zoning if the 
recommendation is for something like 16 units per acre as a density in lieu of 35?  
MR. WESLEY:  So Mayor, Councilmember Watts, you have a couple of different choices 
this evening.  One would be to continue on with the up-or-down vote on applying the 
zoning.  If you vote tonight to not apply it, it's still chapter 27 of the zoning ordinance.  
So at some point in the future, you could bring it back, and the existing ordinances 
would just stay in place until we're ready to bring it back.   
You could continue it this evening and not take action tonight with some direction to 
staff to go back to P and Z, to consider amendments to chapter 27 and work those 
through and then come back and pick this up.  Either way, it's probably the same 
whether you vote it down or continued it.  If you want to make changes, though, to 
chapter 27 to change that density, it is a separate action that would need to go back to P 
and Z first before coming to you.  
MR. WATTS:  But even if it went back to P and Z, we would have the last say as far as the 
density.  If we came back with 35, then we would have the ability to say, amend it to 16.  
MR. WESLEY:  Correct, whatever.  
MR. WATTS:  Correct? 
MR. WESLEY:  Yes.  
MR. WATTS:  Okay.  Then, Mayor, once you close --  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilwoman.  
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Overlay District.  If we want to go back and look at the density at 50 per acre, 35, that's a 
whole different discussion and agenda item. 
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Correct.  
MS. MCMAHON:  So even if this is passed, we still have the opportunity to go back and 
look at density issues and revisit that separately.  
MR. WESLEY:  Mayor, Councilmember, that's correct.  That is another option.  You could 
go ahead and approve it, and we could still amend the Overlay District and bring that 
overlay back and it would apply, whatever you amend it to.  
MS. MCMAHON:  Okay.  Thank you very much.  And I'm going to -- 
MR. WATTS:  I got one more comment.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilman Watts.  
MR. WATTS:  I think my concern with voting it is that if we vote to approve it, then we -- 
even though we can come back and review it and change the density at some point in 
the future, we leave that window of opportunity open for people, developers, 
whomever to swoop in and buy up that area under its current zoning, at which time it 
would be grandfathered in.   So I would like to close that window before we allow that 
to occur.  That's my concern.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Brenda.  
MS. KALIVIANAKIS:  Thank you, Mr. Mayor.  I think Peggy's points are really well-taken.  I 
think we might be mixing apples and oranges here tonight as to what we're trying to 
accomplish.  I think the density thing is a whole different deal.  You know, this this has 
gone to planning and zoning.  They approved 50.  It came back to this council at 35.  It's 
had citizen participation plans.  It's had a whole history of exposure to the public.   
And we're here tonight.  It seems like a pretty perfunctory vote just to vote on a simple 
change to the overlay district, which is recommended by our Amanda, our development 
coordinator.   
And so I'm going to be for this.  If these issues and density -- there's something the 
Council wants to bring up at a future date,  they can do that.  But voting against this is 
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MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Okay.  Any other discussion?  I'm going to close the public hearing.  
Councilman Skillicorn, vice mayor.  
MR. STILLICORN:  I'd like to make a motion to continue this until after the retreat.  
MR. WATTS:  Second.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  We have a motion and a second to continue.  Can we get a roll call, 
please?  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Watts.  
MR. WATTS:  Aye.  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Kalivianakis.  
MS. KALIVIANAKIS:  Nay.  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember  Larrabee.  
MS. LARRABEE:  Aye.  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember McMahon.  
MS. MCMAHON:  Nay.  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Earle. 
MS. EARLE:  Aye.  
MS. BENDER:  Vice Mayor  Skillicorn.  
MR. STILLICORN:  Yes.  
MS. BENDER:  And Mayor Friedel. 
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Aye.  
MS. BENDER:  Mayor, 5-2. 
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Thank you.  
And our next item C is another public hearing.  So I'm going to open the public hearing.  
Town manager Rachel.  
MS. GOODWIN:  All right.  Our next public hearing, John, I think you're up again.  This 
one is related to an SUP for a property on Saguaro Boulevard.  Specifically reducing the 
number of required parking spaces.  John, I'll let you take it from there.  
MR. WESLEY:  Thank you.  Mayor, Council.  We're dealing with the southwest corner of 
Palisades and Saguaro.  The building there it's in the current downtown shopping plaza

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overlay.  There's a lot of over 10,800 square feet.  Lots of this size, by ordinance, are 
required to provide all their own parking.  However, they can apply for a special use 
permit to allow up to a 50 percent reduction, given the large parking field adjacent to it 
with part of the plateau 8.  
So the property owner has requested a special use permit to remove up to nine parking 
spaces along the south side of the building.  It's currently a three-tenant building.  41 
parking spaces are required for this building, and there are 41 parking spaces available.  
It has two existing drive-up windows, one on the east side and one on the west side.   
The desire is to remove the parking space along the south side of the building to 
facilitate reuse of the drive up window along the east side of the building and have a 
longer drive-up lane to provide access to the order board and then to the window as 
shown in this particular illustration.   
If we consider an SUP, there are certain considerations that the ordinance says need to 
be reviewed, and one is would approval be detrimental to the public health, safety, 
peace, or general comfort of the neighborhood?  So again, there are 41 spaces required 
and 41 provided.  The existing uses today aren't really utilizing all those parking spaces.  
When you go by there, you rarely see all the spaces full.  The Dairy Queen project, which 
is the one proposing to go in, projects a need for 16 parking spaces so that removing 9 
at this point does not seem to be particularly detrimental to the area.  
 Also, looking further around the area, when we look at the eastern portion of the 
plateau 8 parking lot, and you can see the number of spaces that are currently open 
there.  When we look at all the land available, and if those were each built out to a 
typical size, there would be a need for 142 parking spaces.  And we count 216 currently.  
So the area does appear to be over-parked for a full build out condition.   
The next consideration, would the approval be detrimental to existing commercial 
improvements within the area?  So the development is showing seven vehicles being 
parked up for the drive-up window without blocking any of the drive aisles.  If you get 
beyond that, it could start to impact the drive-thru lanes, the interior circulation there.  
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necessary, if there gets to be a significant traffic flow.   
And there's also some concern with the loss of parking spaces.  Employees of the center 
may decide to park in the most convenient spaces, which would be the ones 
immediately south of that drive aisle.  There's a business looking at using that building, 
and expanding, and had some concern that if employees are parking there, then her 
customers wouldn't be able to park.  And so we looked at that consideration.   
And so this illustrates that condition, if you have the two drive lanes in and out, if you 
get another car stacked behind the drive-up lane, it would start to interfere with 
incoming traffic.  And these are the parking spaces that there was some concern of 
employees from this building parking in that location. 
I did make one a note as we reviewed this.  The illustration is off a little bit.  This is 
showing a 22- foot-wide drive aisle.  But when we measured it, it's actually wider than 
that.  It's actually 30 feet.  So there's more room in there for that circulation than what it 
appears in the illustrations that were provided.   
And then just overall in the area, there's access off of Palisades Boulevard.  There's one 
off the screen here that would come in off of Parkview that provide multiple routes for 
vehicles to get into and queue into that drive-up lane just besides just the one off of 
Saguaro.  So we feel that with those, those will mitigate any of the challenges there.   
And then finally, would approval be detrimental, injurious to the general welfare of the 
Town?  And the staff did not identify any general issues.   
There was one site planning issue that has been addressed, but go ahead and bring it 
up, in case you've heard about this or the concern.  That is, there is an existing grease 
interceptor located in a traffic island that's now going to become part of the drive-thru 
lane.  And the sanitary district requested it be moved, and the applicant has agreed to 
move it to a location to the east that was acceptable to the sanitary district.   
So with that, the Planning and Zoning Commission has recommended approval of 
elimination of the nine spaces with two conditions.  One is requiring that employees of 
the businesses on this property be required to park in the parking lot to the southwest 
and not immediately to the south, and again that they move forward with the grease

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interceptor being moved as shown in the site plan.  With that, are there any questions 
for me?  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilman Watts?  
MR. WATTS:  John, the parking spaces that are on the south side of the aisle, I'll call it 
Dairy Queen.  I'm glad to see, number one, that it's not a dual lane.  I think originally it 
was proposed as a dual lane for drive-thru, but those parking spaces, it looks like there's 
three cars.  How are they going?  How is the owner/developer going to block off or 
protect those four spaces from being utilized?  
MR. WESLEY:  Councilmember are you talking about these spaces immediately to the 
west?  
MR. WATTS:  No, I'm talking about the ones to the right where those three cars are.  
Because if you look at the other drawing with the parking spaces, are those parking 
spaces included as well, or are they blocked off?  And I know I'm pointing to the screen.  
You can't see it, but it's those first three before the turn lane.  
MR. WESLEY:  So Mayor and Councilmember, here's the existing condition.   And these 
parking spaces will be removed and become the drive-thru lane and these remain.  And 
there's that curb that will be put in for the transition.   
MR. WATTS:  How are you protecting those spaces?  Are they just not going to be 
marked as parking spaces or? 
MR. WESLEY:  To these three immediately to the west?  
MR. WATTS:  No.  Back to where now the drive-thru is.  
MR. WESLEY:  So yes, there just won't be spaces anymore.  
MR. WATTS:  You're just going to take the markings away.  And so there's no indication?.  
MR. WESLEY:  Yeah, they'll be repaving that, putting in the curb and assign it as the 
drive-thru lane.  
MR. WATTS:  Okay.  So the only problem then is if we had 12 cars in the drive-thru lane, 
you could have blockage to the other spaces further to the west.  
MR. WESLEY:  Right.  
MR. WATTS:  Should be a warning sign to people not to park there.

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MR. WESLEY:  Park at your own risk.  
MR. WATTS:  Thank you.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Vice Mayor.  
MR. STILLICORN:  Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Director Wesley, as an interesting point.  
And hopefully this is successful, and they'll need more than seven cars in that lane on 
occasion.  And I don't know if there's flexibility to actually eliminate those extra three.  
But that's not in front of us tonight.  But if we're talking about a successful redeveloping 
of this building, I think we might be open to something like that.  At least I am.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilwoman McMahon.  
MS. MCMAHON:  Didn't this building used to be a dairy Queen?  So it's been there 
before, correct?  It functioned fine, the whole nine yards.  
MR. WESLEY:  Yes, Mayor and Councilmember, I believe that's correct.  It's before my 
time.  I haven't seen it.  They may have had a more limited line of products that were 
selling at that time, but yes, it has been a Dairy Queen in the past.  
MS. MCMAHON:  Okay.  Thank you very much.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilman Watts.  
MR. WATTS:  Just as a side note, they've got great chili dogs, and I never had problem 
getting through the drive thru.  
MS. MCMAHON:  Want to make a motion? 
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Let me let me ask if -- are there any other comment cards, Town 
Clerk?  
MS. BENDER:  No, Mayor.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  No.  Okay.  Thank you.  Then I'm going to close the public hearing, and 
then I'll look for a motion.   
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  I move to approve.  
MR. WATTS:  Second.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  It works, it works.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  So we have a motion and a second.  Can we get a roll call  vote, 
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MS. BENDER:  Councilmember McMahon.  
MS. MCMAHON:  Aye.  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Larrabee.  
MS. LARRABEE:  AYE. 
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Earle.  
MS. EARLE:  Aye. 
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Kavilianakis. 
MS. KAVILIANAKIS:  Aye. 
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Watts.  
MR. WATTS:  Aye.  
MS. BENDER:  Vice Mayor Skillicorn.   
MR. SILLICORN:  Yes.  
MS. BENDER:   And mayor Friedle.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Aye.  
MS. BENDER:  Mayor, 7-0.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Thank you.  Next up we have discussion and possible direction relating 
to creating a Placemaking Strategy for murals on exterior walls.  Town Manager Rachel.  
MS. GOODWIN:  Yes, that's correct.  So just as a note, it is a discussion item.  I believe 
Amanda is going to walk through the internal conversations we've been having and 
some of the external requests that we've had about murals within our business area.  So 
Amanda, would you take it from there?  
MS. JACOBS:  All right, Thank you, Manager Goodwin, Mayor, Council.  So yes, again 
tonight is to talk about a Placemaking Strategy on the exterior buildings of private 
businesses.  I am going to be going through lots of pretty folders and then just really 
seeking a consensus to move forward to bring this back.   
So our elected officials, who are very analytical and like data, we're not at that point yet.  
We're wanting to see if Council even supports the idea before we spend a lot of time.  
But just as a reminder, in '23 the Council unanimously approved a three-year 
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strategy.   And then in 2024, you also unanimously approved our downtown strategy.   
And so here are a couple of murals.  So specifically these are on utility boxes within the 
downtown.  In 2023, the Council also approved and authorized as an ongoing expense, 
$25,000 to execute these murals.  So again, these are just throughout downtown.  We 
just installed nine more.   
And some of you I know, Councilmember Kalivianakis shared and forwarded some 
residents who are like, how can I  get my boxes painted?  What about the ones you 
know across from La Montana?  So as we start to do this, the phone starts to ring in.  So 
the last couple of weeks we've been inundated.   
We'll see there's murals inside.  This is Mindful Barbell.  This is Snowbird Ice Cream.  So 
we've created a problem.  But I think it's a good problem is there's other folks that are 
wanting to do this.  So they're inspired, so we can do stuff and then inspire somebody.  I 
love that.   
So what we've received is requests from businesses to either donate their wall, which is 
a blank space, completely white building, for the Town to install a mural.  It's also been 
how about we split the cost of doing that?  We'll give you the wall.  We'll also split the 
cost to implement.  
 And then over the last past year and the last couple of months, we've had six to seven 
businesses do a mix of this, but several wanting to rock and roll right now to actually 
install murals, which would be completely funded by the property owner or the 
business.  So hence that's the problem is we're getting these requests, but we don't 
quite have a policy or program.  
 And so what staff is requesting is your support to move forward, to come back in about 
three to four months.  That is showing said policy.  So creating some guidelines that 
could come through Town staff for review and approval, and to also consider a formal 
annual call-to-artist process.   
So I'm going to briefly kind of describe what we do with the utility boxes.  So we partner 
with a third-party which used to be called the Southern Arizona Arts and Culture 
Alliance, which is now called Art State Arizona.  And so they work with lots of

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municipalities.  They, on our behalf, do a national call-to-artist.  So the current one we 
just completed, we had over 18 artists submit.  There is then a committee that reviews 
it.  And there's a criteria.  And so, for instance, again with these boxes we say what is 
appropriate is our fountain, tapping into the dark skies, nature, trees.   So we're then 
reviewing to see has somebody actually followed the rules.  Or have they gone out of 
scope and are going to do something inappropriate?  So there's then the ranking.   
So we would propose something like that where, again, there's some control to ensure 
there's nothing political in nature, there's no advertising of a business.   
So for instance, there's one business that's a tenant.  We wouldn't want them on their 
exterior -- they don't own the property, to put a mural that's actually advertising their 
business because if, for some reason they go under, which we hope does not happen 
with our business-retention program, that we're not stuck looking at, oh, well, that 
business failed.   
So again, looking to do that.  As we go through this, we would also want to make sure 
that we are not having any negative impacts to our Town code, which also within the 
code includes our zoning code.  So with that I will open it up to Council.  Again, I know 
there's not lots of detail.  We're just seeking.  Would you like us to spend time on this?  
So we're not telling councilmembers we don't have a process or telling them no, or we'll 
get back to you, we've been waiting to get to council.  So with that, Mr. Mayor, happy to 
hear some feedback.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilmember Kaliviankis. 
MS. KALIVIANAKIS:  .Thank you, Mr. Mayor.  Yeah, man, I can't thank you enough to 
bring this up tonight as a placeholder for future discussion.  As you know, I've been 
approached by a number of businesses and residential, and it's hard to tell them we 
don't really have a policy on that.  Let me see what I can do for you.   
And so this is, I think, an example of government being nimble.  It's responding to a plan 
that was done by the manager and a few departments.  People love the murals and the 
electrical.  And so it's kind of catching on.  But it's so good for a public policy standpoint 
to have people -- had codified, you know, this is what you can do.  This is what you can't

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do.  You can't promote your own business.  You can do something to beautify the City.  
No politics, just the rules of the road.   
And so you know, I'm really -- I'm strongly for this.  It's something that a lot of people 
even want in their own neighborhoods.  And I do think they would be willing to pay for 
them.  You know, we've got the artists, we've got the talent, and the people want to see 
their neighborhoods beautified.  And so I just want to say thanks for bringing this up.  
Definite big, big fan.  
MS. JACOBS:  Thank you.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilman Watts.  
MR. WATTS:  Yeah.  Amanda, Thanks.  I'm a fan.  There's a lot of fun to walk around and 
take pictures of -- and macros and you know, of landscape and that kind of stuff.  So it's 
pretty neat.  I am interested in what the guidelines will look like.  So if you're asked 
tonight is it to say I'm going to come back with the guidelines, things like the NPO has a 
comment that says desert muted colors, for instance.  So we don't have glaring high 
gloss.  We've got something that blends in with the desert.  And possibly a consideration 
is other utilities.  You know, if we can get involved with somebody like Cox Cable and we 
can do that, fire hydrants, I mean, those can be very, very creative.  So other things.  
And so I'm a supporter.  Thank you.  
MS. JACOBS:  Thank you.  And then, Mr. Mayor, if I could just.  Councilmember Watts 
brings up a very good point in some of the inquiries I'm getting from businesses.  And 
our residents are looking at other boxes, is telling them it's just SRP right now.  So 
sometimes when you see, oh, there's all these murals and then there's an empty -- so 
thank you for bringing that up, Councilmember Watts.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilwoman.  
MS. MCMAHON:  Thank you.  Thank you for bringing this forward.  I have concerns 
about it, though.  You're asking about exterior buildings and adding more murals, et 
cetera.  I have a concern that there might be over-proliferation of this because, right 
now, looking at the SRP utility boxes, they're very unique, and they're very well 
accepted, and I wouldn't want that to get diluted in a lot of ways.

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But also I'm just concerned about, you know, what are the guidelines going to be, you 
know, is it censorship?  What if somebody wants to put something up and then we, you 
know, deem it political or something?  Is that an infringement on the right for freedom 
of expression?  I mean, I think that this is probably going to detail right now, but it's just 
those are things that I thought about.   
And then I think that the Town, if they want to put a policy like this forward, I think that 
you're going to need some serious consideration about a few things, you know, like that 
in the artistic world.  And again, I am concerned that, given the density of our 
downtown and other areas in town that, you know, are you going to cap it at a certain 
number?  I mean, there are so many questions that I have about this, but so I am 
anxious to see what that policy might be.  I think that it's going to -- might be a little bit 
difficult to draft, but then we'll see.  Thank you.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  I'm 110 percent behind it.  Bring us back some guidelines.  I think 
that's what you're looking is for some direction.  I think you've got a lot of people that 
are interested in this.  So bring us back some guidelines, and let's move with it.  
MS. JACOBS:  Mayor, do we have anyone else?  So again, I've heard from Brenda, Rick 
and you as a yes.  And just looking for -- 
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilwoman Larabee is next up.  
MS. JACOBS:  Thank you.  
MS. LARRABEE:  Sure.  I'm also a yes, As far as bringing it back.  I will actually somewhat 
echo what my fellow councilmember mentioned.  I do want to be looking at these rules 
and understanding that, one, I think you brought up a very good point of I don't 
necessarily want to water down the existing art that we have by going overboard on the 
other end.  So that's going to be where my mindset is when we do rediscuss this.  But 
for the record, I am for it.  I think, in general, when we don't have a policy on something 
that there is public interest, let's get a policy down. 
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilwoman Earle.  
MS. EARLE:  I'm in support of the policy as well.  And I just want to make sure that 
comes back to us to review.  Great.  Thanks.

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MAYOR FRIEDEL:  I think you have your direction.  
MS. JACOBS:  Yep.  And I just received a thumbs up.  And then to just again reassure, 
whenever we bring back a draft code, guidelines, or policy, it goes through the Town 
attorney's office first before we daylight it in public and you see.  So I appreciate the 
concerns from Councilmember McMahon and Larrabee.  We'll bring those back.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Thank you.  And item E is consideration possible action authorizing 
the budget transfer from the general fund contingency to the Downtown strategy Fund.  
Rachel.  
MS. GOODWIN:  Director Jacobs, don't go anywhere.  You're up again.  This is --  
MS. JACOBS:  You're stuck with me. 
MS. GOODWIN:  Yes, this is a unique one.  And if I recall, Councilmember Larrabee was 
excited about this when it was first sort of introduced as America's 250th birthday.  You 
probably started to see it advertised in a lot of different places.  I see it in so many 
unusual places.  I'm always pleasantly surprised when I see it somewhere unexpected.  
But in preparation, the Town is getting ready to engage in the same type of honor to 
sort of partner with the rest of the nation as we celebrate this.  And in order to do so, 
we've been doing some internal discussions about what that looks like, how we can do 
that, how we can make this a community wide within the next calendar year, 2026.  So 
with that Director Jacobs is going to give you some details and talk about next steps.  
Okay.  
MS. JACOBS:  Thank you, manager Goodwin.  She stole a little bit of my thunder, but 
that's okay.  That's okay because I have to talk budget and numbers, which is sometimes 
a little boring.  So yes, next year we want to celebrate America's turning 250.   
The unfortunate is it's not currently in the budget.  And so that is why we're coming 
before this mayor and council to request $100,000.  But bear with me to the public and 
to our elected body.   
So for this current fiscal year, we are looking to take money from our general fund 
contingency, which is over $1 million, to transfer 15,000 to the Downtown Fund, which 
also has a healthy balance of almost 700,000.  But again, for you, our elected body and

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for the public here and viewing at home, you only gave myself the authority, our CFO 
and the Town manager within the Downtown Strategy Fund to spend about $130- or 
$60,000.  So I can't go.  I don't have the authority, or manager, or CFO.  This body does -- 
has the authority to tell us we can transfer in, so we can tap into that downtown fund 
that again has close to $700,000.   
So $15,000 for that is to take down the current banners along the Avenue and then to 
celebrate America 250 and have those up for approximately six months.  The remaining 
of that 60,000 of that we're requesting for this fiscal year would then go towards the 
general fund, specifically our Community Services Department, recreation, to get t-shirts 
that we can start pre-selling in honor of 4th of July America 250, have our branding, a 
logo of America 250 and also purchase other promotional material that we can 
distribute throughout the year at our event.   So again, from January to July.   
And then we're also looking at -- we don't know all the details yet, but we would love to 
have a family movie night with the 1776 theme.  And we're looking at some of our 
parks.  So again, to just bring the family, just honor the traditions being America, you 
know, being American, being proud.  Have a picnic, all the things.   
So now the remaining 40,000 we're asking you for fiscal year '27.  I even had to get past 
the CFO.  So because in a couple of months, we will be before you at a council retreat.  
So the reason why we're asking for that now is we can't wait for you guys to hopefully 
approve our final budget for fiscal year '27 in June.  And then we try to pull off a 
national promoter, band, and some of these other things.   
And specifically that 40,000 is we're trying to get a national band or singer.  We need to 
start procuring some of that now, getting contracts in place.  And so we can't do that if 
we don't know we're authorized or have the funding to do that.   
So what would then happen is the accounting and behind the scenes, our CFO and 
finance team will just carry that over to fiscal year '27.  Hopefully I didn't botch that up.  
Hopefully I didn't confuse you.  So again, we're looking for that budget transfer and 
authority to celebrate America 250.  Mr. Mayor and Council.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Vice mayor.

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MR. STILLICORN:  Thank you, Mr. Mayor.  This sounds very exciting.  Sounds very 
patriotic.  And what's also really neat is that we're ahead of the game here.  I foresee 
this being a great opportunity for tourism.  I see this as a great opportunity for us to 
market our town.  So I'm very excited about this.  I'm going to make a motion to 
approve this as drafted.  
MS. EARLE:  I'll second.   But I also want to say stuff.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilwoman Earle.  
MS. EARLE:  Maybe I didn't hear you say it.  is the national band for the 4th of July,?  
MS. JACOBS:  Correct, sorry.  No, I didn't.  
MS. EARLE:  Thank you.  
MS. JACOBS:  You're welcome.  Yes.  You're welcome.  
MS. EARLE:  Got it.  Okay.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Brenda.  
MS. KALIVIANAKIS:  Thank you, Mr. Mayor.  Yeah, I'm fully supporting this, and I'm going 
to go right from supporting it into the weeds, which is you mentioned the banners, 
taking them down, replacing the banners.  If there's one complaint I've heard from 
many residents of our town is those banners are too small.  You can't read them.  Would 
there be any chance that we can use this opportunity?  We take the banners down and 
maybe get larger banners and bigger poles, something that would be more appropriate 
because there's so little right now that it's just, you know, enjoy Fountain Hills in 
Fountain Hills, but you really can't see them.  They're not very visible.   
So I'm just taking this -- that's why I said it's in the weeds, because I'm for this and I'm 
not going to kill it if you say no.  But I think this would be a great opportunity to throw a 
little bit of money in better banners, which we could use in the future to celebrate high 
school students, veterans, or any other thing like in a six-month rotating basis but have 
them just more visible and something that would be more impactful for tourists and 
people that drove through the Town.  
MS. JACOBS:  Mr. Mayor, Councilmember Kalivianakis, what I would say is hold that 
thought and maybe bring that forth during the February council retreat, because it's

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going to delay the process.  So again, I would need to get with the facilities department.  
What's the impact of, of poles like, how quickly could we do this?  We could delay it.  By 
you guys saying yes, now, we're hoping in the next couple of weeks to go to print and 
put these bad boys up in in January.  This could delay it by a couple of months.  So I 
appreciate where you're going and kind of going in the weeds but maybe bring that up 
for the February council retreat to think about it for consideration for fiscal year '27.  
MS. KALIVIANAKIS:  Fair enough.  Thank you.  
MS. JACOBS:  You're welcome.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilwoman Larrabee.  
MS. LARRABEE:  Just for the record, I would agree on that.  I'm certainly not opposed to 
discussing larger banners, but I want the money that we're approving for the 250th to 
go to the 250th.  And really, all I wanted to say was I knew this idea would be in good 
hands with Amanda 
I'm just so excited to see this.  So thank you so much.  I think that Fountain Hills is 
leading the charge in a lot of ways on celebrating the 250th anniversary of our country.  
And I'm really excited and really proud to see this unfolding.  So thank you for you and 
everything that you and your team are doing.  
MS. JACOBS:  Thank you.  And Mr. Mayor, councilmember Larrabee, I do you want to 
give a huge shout out to our recreation team that is part of this, as well as our public 
information officer.  So we've been meeting for several months, and then of course, our 
manager of like, yes, like we need to get this done and her helping with the creativity.  
But I'm like, I'm the one that has to ask for the money.  We need to stay at 100,000.  So 
there's been excitement.  So thank you.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilman Watts.  
MR. WATTS:  Yeah, I'm definitely a supporter of the celebration and the thought behind 
it.  Although I do think it's important that we're not providing the community with swag 
bags and free t-shirts, and there is some recouping of some of these costs as we go 
forward.  I'd also ask to give you my proxy next time I go to the bank to get a loan, so 
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MS. JACOBS:  So again, Mr. Mayor,  Councilmember Watts again brings up a good point.  
So with the T-shirts, we do plan on selling them.  So we will be recouping.  And then, as 
always, as we kind of get through this program, we will report back of  did we use the 
full 100,000.  Of course you're going to see things.  But we can also report back on the T-
shirt sales.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  I'll make a final comment.  I think it's fantastic.  And we really need to 
have a big celebration for the 250th, so I'm 100 percent behind this.  So did we get a 
motion yet on this?  No.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Oh you did.   
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Yeah, we had Allen and then I seconded it.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Oh, we have a motion and a second.  Can we please take a roll call?  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember McMahon.  
MS. MCMAHON:  Aye.  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Larrabee.   
MS. LARRABEE:  Aye. 
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Earle.  
MS. EARLE:  Aye.  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Kalivianakis. 
MS. KALIVIANAKIS:  Aye..   
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Watts. 
MR. WATTS:  Aye.   
MS. BENDER:  Vice mayor Skillicorn.   
MR. SKILLICORN:  Yes.   
MS. BENDER:  And Mayor  Friedel.   
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Aye.   
MS. BENDER:  Mayor.  7-0. 
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Thank you.  
MS. JACOBS:  We appreciate your support.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Okay.  Moving on to item F regarding proceeding with pavement

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management options for Richwood Avenue and approving necessary budget transfers.  
Rachel.  
MS. GOODWIN:  Correct.  Thank you, Mayor.  We have Jeff Pierce, our street 
superintendent, returning again.  He's going to be talking about the request.  There was 
a recent request about Richwood.  When we did the initial street presentation, there 
was some concerns and questions about potentially doing additional streets if the 
money was available.  So this was one suggested option.  Mr. Pierce is going to walk 
through that, but we're certainly open to other discussions and ideas.  So with that.  
MR. PIERCE:  Thank you very much, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council.  I stand here before you 
tonight in regards to direction to staff to find an alternative payment method for 
Richwood Avenue.  It's located in the north part of town, which falls between Golden 
Eagle Boulevard and Boulder Drive.  It's approximately 4100-feet long, almost 4200-feet 
long.   
During this time, staff has met with multiple vendors for onsite field evaluations 
discussing multiple treatments.  During that time, our own chip seal and cape seal 
projects came up that the Town conducted a few years ago and were discussed.  You 
may be familiar with El Lago Boulevard between Palisades and Fountain Hills Boulevard 
and also Chama.  Both of those received these products, and so far are doing very well 
with the results.   
This project consists of many steps.  I'll go down the list of kind of what it takes in order 
to do this project.  For this first we start off with a concrete replacement.  Staff 
evaluates the roadway.  They mark curbs and other forms of concrete that need to be 
replaced first.  So that way we have proper curb lines for the work.   
We then go down and we remove any types of asphalt that looks like it's distressed or 
has compaction issues and backfill it with the proper asphalt that is needed for that.   
We then perform a micro mill, which is basically a half to three-quarter-inch mill, 
bringing it down, eliminating any of the high spots in that roadway, which then takes a 
type two or three micro seal.  Basically, it's a sealer that goes over that.   
We come back with a crack seal to fill any of those cracks that may be showing through

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there.  And finally we put down a chip seal and a cape.  Basically, we put down chip, 
asphalt chips and glue it down with a cape.   
This product it has a service life of just under a decade.  Depends on a number of things, 
whether -- so you're looking at about seven to ten years to get out of this product.  The 
cost of this right now is roughly estimated at $740,000 to do this on this road.  If no 
action is taken, unfortunately, with the way Richwood is currently in the state, more 
distress will continue to grow.  And unfortunately, the cost will be higher with future 
rehabilitations needed to reconstruct this roadway.  With that said, is there any 
questions?  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilwoman Earle.  
MS. EARLE:  Thank you, Mayor.  Yeah, I have a few questions.  I've driven on this road, 
and it does look pretty bad.  So my question is, is this a pre-incorporation road?  
MR. PIERCE:  I believe it is.  Yes.  
MS. EARLE:  Okay.  And my other question is I know you call them feeder roads or the 
roads going into that have been done.  Weren't they full reconstruction?  
MR. PIERCE:  Yes ma'am.  
MS. EARLE:  They were.  Okay.  So I don't see the cost of full reconstruction.  Do you 
know what that would be if we did full reconstruction?  
MR. PIERCE:  Yes, ma'am.   A quote secured late last week in regards to a full 
reconstruction for this road.  A full reconstruction for this road is estimated at $935,000.  
That is just the reconstruction of the road.  With the cost of the concrete that would still 
need to be replaced with it, you're looking at just about $1.1 million.  
MS. EARLE:  And with this we're looking at 750,000.  
MR. PIERCE:  Correct.  With the temporary, the lesser of the two.  
MS. EARLE:  It's not a huge difference.  Would we be able to do this if we did a full 
reconstruction?  
MR. PIERCE:  That depends on the funding.  
MS. GOODWIN:  I think that's part of the conversation.  And Paul, I hate to do this to 
you, but I am going to ask if the budget transfers as related to this, if this is part of our

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streets funding, or if this is coming from -- because there's been associations with 
savings of other projects coming in under, however, those are specific to our capital 
improvements.  The question is it funding that this is specifically out of our streets fund, 
is that right?  
MR. SOLDINGER:  Yes.  Short answer.  Rachel, Mayor, Council, is we can do it.  Palomino 
came in well under budget and that was going to be reimbursed from the streets fund 
anyways.  So it's really just moving the budget or the permission to do the work directly 
out of the street's fund.  So even with the additional around 1.1, 1.2 million, we could 
definitely do it within the constraints of the budget.  
MS. EARLE:  That would be my recommendation since this road gets more traffic than 
even the side roads did.  Thank you.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  I don't know who's next here.  Vice Mayor.  
MR. STILLICORN:  Thank you, Mr. Mayor.  And I'm not sure which way to go as of yet, 
but I would point out that there is a big difference between chip seal and total 
reconstruction, and it's over 50 percent increase.  And if you think of it that way, I mean, 
that is another portion that can go towards another street.  So it isn't like it's $900,000 
versus $1 million.  I mean three-quarters of a million versus 1.1.  I mean, that's over 50 
percent increase.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilman Watts.  
MR. WATTS:  If you took the 4,100 square feet that you've got as asphalt, and you 
backed into a number for Palomino and how it actually came out, as opposed to the 
estimates that you've got today, how would that compare?  
MR. PIERCE:  I currently do not have that in front of me, sir.  
MR. WATTS:  I think it's worth looking at because I'm also a believer.  We've been 
shortsighted before about how we do some of our repairs.  And I'm not saying this is 
shortsighted, but the longevity of a street that is completely redone is probably closer to 
20 years, at least twice what this is.  So half again, as much to get twice the longevity.  
Not being shortsighted.  And I think with what we found on Palomino that our estimates 
were high.  And if we could back into that number without going to a lot of work, it

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would be worthwhile looking at to figure out whether or not it makes some sense.  
 And I think the life expectation, and if I'm using 20 years as a reasonable number with 
reasonable maintenance, and if it's not right, then I'd like to know that as well.  The 7 to 
10 years has got a fairly wide range.  So I'm going to be just as liberal saying 20 years.  So 
worth chasing down a little bit.  Thank you.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Before I call on Councilwoman Kalivianakis, I just wanted to throw this 
out with the savings that we have under budget.  I was going to make a suggestion later 
in this meeting that we consider doing cape and chip.  Find out if we can move it to a CIP 
and do Thistle as well.  So we could get two major roads done with the savings under 
budget from these bids that came in lower than expected.  So I'd like to get more roads 
done.  And then be able to preserve them as long as we can.  But anyway, 
Councilwoman Kalivianakis, go ahead.  
MS. KALIVIANAKIS:  Thank you, Mr. Mayor.  Well, I've really spent a lot of time with this 
one, and I guess I reject the notion that we should even be doing anything to this 
Richwood Road.  This reminds me of the worst of Washington, D.C., that we took money 
from CIP and we put it into roads for Palomino, which we were going to repay from 
streets later.  And now Palomino came in under budget and so suddenly now we think 
we have all this found money like we won the lottery.   
And what are we going to do with this extra money?  Why don't we just put it back in 
CIP?  That's what we should be doing.  I don't even know why we're talking about this 
road.  It's not good public policy.  And it stands in contradiction to the road repair plans 
that we've been talking about in this council for years that I've been on this council.   
This Richmond wouldn't have been supported by the former streets committee.  It's not 
supported by the RAS report that determined the priority list of roads to be repaired, 
and also the BOSS pavement selection software.  It doesn't show up.   
I think we should be supporting a data-driven approach to fixing the roads.  If we don't 
use a data-driven approach, but we just throw ideas out there that aren't on the existing 
list of people that are trying to get their neighborhoods fixed, because there is a list of 1 
through 100.  And so we're kind of bumping everybody down because we want to select

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this road over all the rest of the road.  So the next one on the list is going to be bumped 
to maybe another year or two.  And I don't think that's a good idea.  
If we support a data- driven approach, then we will be cleared of accusations of possible 
cronyism or misuse of public funds.  Because if we start fixing certain roads and people 
are going to say, why are those furrows being fixed, are these where politicians live?  Or 
is this where somebody was guiding us to do, to jump the line?   And so it raises 
speculation of, you know, why that road and not the one next on the list.  
 You know, we did have some money savings because we did put off Fountain Hills 
Boulevard until we get a more exhaustive plan.  We did save some money on Palomino.  
But you know, why are we robbing CIP?  And it always goes into the buckets.  The 
buckets that they always do at the retreats.   
There's a bucket for CIP, a bucket for streets, a bucket for development, economic 
development.  And so when you start grabbing money from one bucket and putting it 
into a next bucket, then all of a sudden roads are going to be great, but CIP is going to 
suffer.  And CIP is concerns.  You know, we've got major repairs for this building, for the 
road, for the roof, for the community center.  And we've got the Lake Line.  We've got a 
lot of money that we need to spend.   
So by just saying, well, let's just pick a road out of the air, I don't think it's a good idea.  I 
would ask maybe Director Weldy.  Would Richmond?   Is this currently on our BOSS 
report as the next road that we should be repairing?  
MR. WELDY:  Mr. Mayor, Councilmembers.  Richwood was not on this year's selection.  
The roads that were selected by the software, the data, which is driven by budget, were 
presented to the Mayor and Council earlier this calendar year.  
MS. KALIVIANAKIS:  So wouldn't it be more prudent policy to pick the ones that were 
previously selected by a program that we spent millions of dollars on that RAS report.  
There was a truck that drove every street to determine what are the worst ones.   For us 
councilmembers to say, well, I drove in Richwood and I don't think it's a good road.  
Well, maybe you didn't drive on 15 other streets that were worse because there are 
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And they've been previously prioritized.  They are on a list, and I don't know why we're 
jumping the list on this project.  If somebody would care to explain what makes this one 
more important than the next one on the BOSS list, I would love to hear that 
explanation.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  So let me let me share something with you.  First of all -- 
MS. KALIVIANAKIS:  I believe I still have the floor, Jerry.   
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Okay.   
MS. KALIVIANAKIS:  And I will be finishing soon, but I don't want to be real-time fact 
checked.  I will yield the floor back to you when I'm finished.  Instead of borrowing the 
funds from CIP and then replacing them later, wouldn't it be logical to just return the 
funds back to CIP now and go back to the BOSS list?  The list that was made to make our 
job easier as what the next road to fix.  
 Again, this is government that just because we save money, we feel like we have to 
spend money.  And I don't like that concept.  Just because we save money on one 
project, we should put the money where we found it, and we should go back to the 
original plan.  
 And the other thing, and this is more importantly too -- and again, Director Weldy or 
Paul, if you want to address this, I would really appreciate it.  But ten years ago this 
town had some budgetary and funding problems and threw a lot of hard work through 
Director Poch and our staff.  We got in an enviable position now that we do have some 
extra money in reserve, and we do have funding, but we do have a lot of projects 
coming up, and there was a lot of hard work to get us to the point that now we do have 
more money.   
But if we start spending money on, well, let's throw money at this road and let's throw 
money at that road, is there a chance that we will get back to the days that our funding 
will be depleted, and then we're going to have to start restricting other improvements, 
infrastructure, just because we want to fix certain roads?  Could you explain that, Paul?  
Because from my experience in Fountain Hills history, you know, we had some pretty 
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MR. SOLDINGER:  Yeah.  So Mayor, councilmember.  What I'm advising is what we can 
do within the constraints of the budget.  And so for this particular road that we're 
talking about today and the budget transfer, the way it's explained in the staff report, 
I'm trying to be as objective as possible, is that Palomino Boulevard came in under 
budget.  For that, in the budget, what we plan for which is very confusing, I've had to 
kind of go through this several times in front of the dais is that it's being paid out of the 
CIP fund but automatically being reimbursed from the streets fund because it's a streets 
project.   
So in this case, it's more of a logistical move to do the budget transfer.  It's still going to 
be eventually paid out of the streets fund.  So that's within the constraints of the 
original plan.  But it's the Council's decision on making changes to that plan and that 
budget.  So if you want to go a different way with that, and to clarify, this agenda item 
tonight would not actually transfer money.  It's just the budget authority.  So it would be 
the permission to directly spend money out of the streets fund rather than the CIP fund 
and do the reimbursement.  
MS. KALIVIANAKIS:  Yeah, I can appreciate that, that the funding will eventually be 
recouped by future street funds, correct 
MR. SOLDINGER:  So we're in a -- so Mayor and Councilmember, we're in a strong fund 
balance situation right now where, yes, the Council has authorized transfers of savings, 
general fund excess reserve savings into various funds, including the streets fund.  So 
right now, today, we have a little over $13 million in the streets fund.   
A lot of the streets work is going to happen in the second half of the fiscal year.  So we 
are going to plan to spend a lot of that down.  Also, depending on what you decide on 
tonight.  Palomino, a little over $3 million, that will be reimbursed from that fund.  We 
also have $5 million in the streets fund already for other road paving work.  That was I 
believe, selected by the BOSS data.  So that's $8 million right there coming out of that 
13 million. 
We'll still recoup some revenues along the way this year.  So we'll still be in a decent 
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year, but probably not as much as this year.  So tonight the agenda item is simply to give 
the Council an option.  If you want to do Richwood, we can do it within the constraints 
of the budget.  
MS. KALIVIANAKIS:  And I appreciate that.  And just to conclude, I just think a data-
driven approach based on the RAS report and the BOSS software program would be 
better than just picking improvement roads out of the air with no explanation other 
than I drove on them, and it didn't seem like a good road to me.  Thank you.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Now that the filibuster is over, I'll make a couple of comments.  First 
of all, we are following the BOSS data.  This is additional work.  We're not shoving 
anybody else down the road.  And secondly, there's no cronyism involved in this.  All the 
feeder roads that were leading into Richwood were done.  Why not complete it all, that 
whole neighborhood in one season, if we can do that?  I have been on that road, and it 
is a mess.  I don't know that you have.  So we are following the data.  We have the 
money.  
MS. KALIVIANAKIS:  (Indiscernible) home delivered meals (indiscernible). 
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  This isn't a discussion right now.  We have the money available.  
Another road project came in under budget.  We're going to take those funds and 
complete this road, and possibly even another road, and still follow the BOSS data and 
get the roads that we would normally do completed as well.  So this is in addition to not 
shoving anybody else's road down.   
And I don't think any resident in this town has said that we're cronies because this street 
didn't get done or that street didn't get done.  Our focus is to get roads done as much as 
we can, and every resident in this town sees what we're doing, and they're happy with 
the progress that we're making on our roads.  I've not heard one complaint about a road 
being done and us being cronies for doing it, and I don't know of any politicians that live 
on Richwood.  
MS. KALIVIANAKIS:  I didn't say I accuse anybody of cronyism.  I said, the way we're 
doing this, there could be the accusation of --   
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Brenda, that's enough. That's enough please.

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MS. KALIVIANAKIS:  It's a possibility.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilman Watts, you've been waiting. 
MR. WATTS:  So if we follow the BOSS or whatever report in this year's budget to 
address the streets, where and how was the decision made?  I think it's an important 
question.  How did we get to Richwood?  Maybe Justin -- maybe director can explain to 
us why we selected it.  Nobody's asked the question.  How did we get to them?  Are 
they in next year's list and we're bumping them up?  If we've already got this year's list 
taken care of, how did we get there?  
MR. WELDY:  Mr. Mayor, Councilmember, Richwood was direct select.  
MR. WATTS:  What does that mean?  
MR. WELDY:  From this elected body.  So there are discussions in regards to all the 
different types of roads and classifications.  When we presented what we could do with 
the money that was allocated based on the data, staff recommended, and I'm that staff 
member -- that we not do anything to Fountain Hills Boulevard.  As part of that 
conversation and every other one we've had, I have listed a number of long, wide roads, 
including Richwood,  Palomino, King's Tree.  I could continue on down the list.  And 
those are additional roads that need historically a single funding mechanism.  As part of 
that conversation, Richwood was discussed. 
MR. WATTS:  So if I said it less eloquently, we did -- the Council,  this Council did discuss, 
was advised that Richwood was in the mix.  And could it be that the amount of money 
that we saved, the cost for the square footage, for the 4,100 square feet of asphalt, 
repair, removal, whatever we end up with, fit Richwood better than other streets 
because of its size, because of its overall condition?  And so it was selected not 
randomly, not haphazardly, but we literally -- your department looked at it and said, this 
is the best fit for the funds that we have available to get it in from next year's to this 
year.  
MR. WELDY:  We looked at it, Councilmember, based on council direction.  
MR. WATTS:  Thank you.  
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MS. LARRABEE:  Thank you.  I actually really appreciated the conversation regarding 
whether the chip and cape or a rebuild would be worth it.  With the Mayor's suggestion 
of getting two roads with that amount of money, maybe combining Thistle in there, I 
wanted to clarify, what would the timeline be if we were -- instead of doing Richwood 
and Thistle, if we were to say, let's just rebuild Richwood?  I know Councilmember Watts 
kind of answered my question, but just to hear it from your mouth, what would that 
lifetime then be for?  
MR. PIERCE:  I believe a reconstruction of a road, a brand new road has a lifespan of 
about 30 years.  So you're talking about three decades if it's utilized with the proper 
preservation methods.  But you have to follow those.  You have to preserve them.  You 
have to rejuvenate them.  You have to do it properly.  So it's about 30 years, I believe, 
that we've presented to this Council before in our RAS presentations.  
MS. LARRABEE:  Okay.  So.  One road for 30 years versus two, maybe two roads for 7 to 
10.  However, as discussed, this is on top of, not instead of.  So we are saying that we're 
buying time there before we do eventually have to rebuild those pre-incorporation 
roads.  What I guess I'm trying to weigh in my brain is do we consider continuing this 
and rebuilding that road instead, or do we value those two roads for seven to ten years.  
Instead, I just want to hear everybody's conversation on that, I guess.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilwoman.  
MS. MCMAHON:  Thank you very much, I appreciate it.  I'm also concerned about 
selection, direct-select, whatever you want to call it.  I feel like Council did agree.  And 
there is a management plan in place based on the street committee based on 
professionals.  And I feel like, for example, when we selected Palomino, there was 
disagreements about that street, even with the residents.  And I don't want that to 
happen again.  
 I thought that Council had discussed and agreed upon a payment plan for certain 
streets.  And even though I appreciate your response, Justin, it really didn't address the 
question.  It's not that staff I don't think is, like you said, is picking this.  It's Council.  And 
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budget.  It does affect how much money we're going to have for the streets funds.  I'm 
not going to vote for this because I recall we did already decide on the streets that were 
going to be repaired with the funds, and I don't want to backtrack on that.  Thank you.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Vice Mayor.  
MR. STILLICORN:  Thank you, Mr. Mayor.  Actually, would you mind explaining your plan 
to fix more roads?  You mentioned that there's a possibility of doing Thistle.  Tell us 
more about your plan to fix more roads.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Well, that's not really an agenda item,  but we're not picking and 
choosing.  We're still doing the other roads, according to the BOSS data.  This is in 
addition to.  So the bids came in lower on Shea Boulevard and also Palomino.  So my 
thought was if they came in that much lower, we could also do a chip and cape on 
Thistle like we were going to do on Richwood.   
So you're going to get two major arteries in this town, and all the connector streets to 
Richwood right now have been done already.  So why not clean up that whole 
neighborhood at one time?  And I think Chama and El Lago have held up extremely well 
with that process.  Have they not?  
MR. PIERCE:  They are showing good signs, yeah.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  So we're not using the data that we have.  This is in addition to the 
data and the road work that we're doing.  
MS. MCMAHON:  I understand that and thank you.  However --  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  I'm sorry.  
MS. MCMAHON:  I said I'm sorry.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  You weren't recognized yet.  
MS. MCMAHON:  I thought you were answering --   
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  No.  We're vice mayor.  No, the Vice Mayor.  
MR. STILLICORN:  Mr. Mayor, thank you very much.  And it's good to hear that you have 
a vision to fix more roads and move us a steady progress where we want to get.  Motion 
to approve as drafted.  
MS. LARRABEE:  Second.

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MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilwoman McMahon.  
MS. MCMAHON:  Thank you very much.  Again, I feel like this is going out of order as far 
as street selection.  And I'm wondering if we don't spend this money right now, if we 
carry it over to the next year's budget and then have more money to maybe fix a longer, 
larger -- or larger portion of streets versus selecting another one this year, for lack of 
anything else to say, just to get it done.  I'm just -- I feel like we're going out of 
sequence, and I'm not for direct select.  That's all there is to it.  I'm not going to vote for 
it.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Thank you, Councilman Watts.  
MR. WATTS:  I'm confused that we're going out of sequence in any way, shape, or form.  
Director Weldy clearly told us how we got to Richwood.  My concern is that we can get 
three times the useful life out for 50 percent more.  When I go to the grocery store and 
it's buy three, get five,  I do that.  And I think the same thing applies to roads.  I can get 
more life, less headaches.  
 And I wouldn't be surprised if we could throw both of the roads in, Richwood and what 
was the other road?  Thistle.  Thank you.  And maybe I would say we should look at that 
to make sure that we can get those done in the same manner of a complete removal 
and replace.   I just like doing it right, as opposed to doing it three times.  Thank you.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilwoman Earle. 
MS. EARLE:  I'm with Councilman Watts.  I like the math on three years with 50 percent 
more.  So I don't know.  I guess we would have to vote down against this one.  And how 
do we get to that if we --  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:   (Indiscernible) ask to amend it? 
MS. EARLE:   I would then ask Allen if he would amend it to a full reconstruction.  Allen.  
Skillicorn, sorry, Councilman Skillicorn.  Are you just thinking?  
MR. STILLICORN:  Mr. Mayor, Councilwoman, I like the Mayor's plan, and I think he's got 
a solid plan here.  Gets us ahead of the curve.  If we were going to amend it, I'd like to 
get his input.  
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then maybe get some input about moving Thistle to a CIP to do what I was suggesting 
on that one.  But I don't know that we can discuss that right now because it's not.  Yeah, 
we'll bring it back separately.  So I'm not opposed to that, Vice Mayor, if you want to 
make the amendment.  
MR. STILLICORN:  I will amend my motion to the full rebuild.  
MS. EARLE:  Thank you.  
MR. WELDY:  Mr. Mayor, Councilmembers, if I may, as we're discussing the different 
types of treatment here, Staff went out and prepared an estimate for a chip seal with a 
cape micro mill.  Reconstruction is different, and that requires us to go back to the 
board.  And part of that discovery will include some geotechnical exploration.  That's 
when we go out and dig holes in the road to determine the type of base, whether it's a 
suitable base.   
Please note that Mr. Pierce provided you with a preliminary number tonight to 
reconstruct it, not the final number.  That will not be known until after we do the 
geotechnical and a little bit of other looking into it in regards to logistics and moving and 
discuss it with the Town manager and procurement.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Justin, Jeff what kind of a time frame are we talking about?  If you 
have to go back and do the geo work.  
MR. WELDY:  Mr. Mayor, Councilmembers, realistically, we would return in the latter 
part of February with our end results including an updated estimate.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  So is it safe to say that that 740 could balloon to maybe double?  
MR. WELDY:  In regards to the chip seal and cape, sir, No.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  No, I'm talking about a full reconstruction.  
MR. WELDY:  So the preliminary number is a little bit over 1.1 for reconstruction.  Is 
there a possibility that price will increase?  Yes.  Is there a possibility it will be less?  
Slightly.  We will not know that until we do the geotechnical.  And there's a lot of 
internal moving parts and discussions that need to be have with other professionals, 
and then make a determination based on our findings, whether or not we want to take 
the additional time that we did with Palomino.  Get some solicitation out there, a little

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bit of competition.  We see the outcome of that.  So we would have to have some 
discussion about that as well.  Either direct select using one of the job order contracts or 
cooperative use agreements.  Or do we want to go out for bid.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  We could continue this and have them bring back information if that's 
what the Council wants to do. 
MS. MCMAHON:  Can we do that?   
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilman Watts.  
MR. WATTS:  I just want to be real clear about you came up with the with 1.1.  You 
didn't just wave your finger in the air.  It wasn't a wild guess.  It was based on 
experience.  It was based on what you believe to be so.  I'm not looking for it to double.  
If it moved ten percent, $100,000, one way or another, you still have the multiplier 
effect of the 740 versus the 1.2.   
And we still get a road that's got 30 years versus 7 or 10.  And if I'm a pessimist in the 7 
years, then I get four times the return on my money as opposed to three times with the 
30 years.  So I'm still a supporter of reconstruction 1.1.  I believe in you guys to be able 
to get the best numbers to manage the 1.1, and we shouldn't see a significant increase, 
if anything and possibly to your point, Director, we might even see a reduction from the 
1.1.  So I'm still going to stand firm on the reconstruction.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilwoman Larrabee.  
MS. LARRABEE:  Yes, I think I have a point of information.  Whichever one's a question.  
Councilmember, asking through the Mayor, of course, but Councilmember Skillicorn for 
the amendment to the motion, are we moving to continue this, to then talk about 
reconstruction, or are we moving to approve 740,000 right now as the budget transfer 
and understanding that they'll need to come back for additional, that -- that's where I 
apologize.  I was just I -- I missed exactly what the amendment is.  
MR. STILLICORN:  Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Councilwoman, the question is valid because 
the packet and the staff report recommended the chip seal.  And it appears that the 
Council majority's opinion has changed on that.  And that's fine.  But the amendment to 
the original motion would be to allow  -- and the directors back there --  is allow the

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sufficient funds transfer to allow for the effectively $1.1 million estimate for a total 
rebuild.  That's the specifics of the amended motion.  And as long as I know there's -- it 
seems like there's two detractors to chip seal.  As long as they're still insisting on the 
rebuild, I would like to keep with that motion.  
MS. LARRABEE:  Thank you.  
MR. STILLICORN:  Are you going to also amend your second? 
MS. LARRABEE:  Yeah, I amend my second.  
MR. STILLICORN:  Okay.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Okay.  Town Clerk, we have a motion and a second.  Can we get a roll 
call, please?  
MS. BENDER:  councilmember Kalivianakis.  
MS. KALIVIANAKIS:  Nay.  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Larrabee.  
MS. LARRABEE:  Aye.  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Earle.  
MS. EARLE:  Aye. 
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember McMahon.  
MS. MCMAHON:  Nay.  
MS. BENDER:  Councilmember Watts.  
MR. WATTS:  Aye. 
MS. BENDER:  Vice Mayor Skillicorn.  
MR. STILLICORN:  Since I oppose potholes, I'm a yes.  
MS. BENDER:  And Mayor Friedel.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Aye.  
MS. BENDER:  Mayor, 5-0 -- I'm sorry, 5-2.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Thank you.  
And then the next agenda item is G.  And I'm going to open a public hearing on this one.  
And this is regarding proposed development impact fee schedule.  Town Manager 
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MS. GOODWIN:  Thank you, Mayor.  The public hearings are for our impact fees.  We've 
been talking a lot about these.  There's a few updates to share.  We're almost to the 
homestretch here.  We have this meeting, and then it will be brought back again in 
January for I think the final time, ideally.  So with that, I will hand it over to our CFO for 
more updates.  
MR. SOLDINGER:  All right.  Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor and Council.  This is the 
second-to-last step of this long, laborious process to update our development impact 
fees.  We will be holding the public hearing tonight to hear public input.  And we'll be 
talking about a staff proposal to reduce the fees based on recent changes in projections.  
And with that, the Council will take no action tonight.  But consider the public feedback, 
and we'll come back at the January 20th meeting for Council to consider the final 
approval of the impact fees, and they would go into effect in April.  I think it's a 75-day 
waiting period.   
So with that, just another updated timeline.  Things have been changing.  It's very 
malleable.  Basically, on the 21st, the Council did approve the Land Use Assumptions 
and Infrastructure Improvement Plan, including the development impact fee schedule.  
Since then, we actually received bids and awarded -- the Council awarded a bid on 
December 2nd for the Shea widening project for the construction of $3.2 million.  That 
was about half of what the engineering estimates indicated.  I kind of explained the 
timeline in other meetings, but we had a budgetary amount of $3 million based on an 
older estimate.  We got a new one that pretty much more than doubled what we were 
projecting.   
We used that to develop the land use assumptions and infrastructure improvement plan 
that you approved.  And since then, we got good news through the bidding process that 
the construction costs will come in much less than that engineering estimate.  So 
tonight I'm getting a little bit ahead of myself.  We'll talk about that in just a little bit.  
But tonight we're having the public hearing.  And then the last step, like Rachel 
mentioned, would be on the 20th for consideration of approval of the new impact fees, 
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So just the basic background, these are our current fees, the kind of ones to look at.  
Just an easy point of reference is the single-family residence and multifamily fees at the 
top 3,973 combined for single-family residence and 2,537.  This is being charged to 
develop new development in the Town for those types of residents, as well as the 
commercial type properties below, based on 1,000 square foot of space.   
Based on the report that you approved on the 21st, we did talk about in depth how the 
fees were substantially increasing, but there was some wiggle room and flexibility for 
the Council if things change in the projections to consider.  Number one, tonight during 
the public hearing and then for approval, if there is any appetite to reduce the fees 
based on the change in projections.  So that has happened.   
You'll see that the proposed fees in the report you approve about tripled up to 12,314 
and 7,100 bucks for a single-family multifamily residence.  But since then, like I 
mentioned, we did receive an award, a bid for the that project.  The Shea Boulevard 
widening project is about .94 lane miles to, widening to three lanes at 3.2 million.  Once 
we looked at all the costs associated with the project, it was pretty much almost exactly 
50 percent.  
So what we're doing tonight is just kind of introducing our recommendation that we'll 
be bringing to you on January 20th to say, hey, the parks and the fire impact fees, we 
recommend they stay the same.  And with the streets fee, we're recommending 
reducing it by 50 percent.  And with that this is actually what the new revised fees 
would look like that you would be considering for approval on January 20th.   
You'll see that the single family, rather than the 12,314, it's down to 8,816, still more 
than double than what it currently is.  So it is still a substantial raise, but not as -- easier 
to stomach than triple the amount.   And the multifamily is down to 5,462.  And you'll 
see down the line across the other development types that there was a reduction for 
the street's impact fees.   
So this is what's included in the updated report in your packet that you'll consider 
approval for on the 20th.  And this last slide just simply shows the difference between 
the current fees and what the staff-recommended fees would be.  You are still seeing an

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increase across the board for a single-family residence.  It would be going up by $4,843, 
multifamily 2,925 and down the line.  And with that, I'd be happy to answer any 
questions.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilman Watts.  
MR. WATTS:  Pretty significant drop.  And (indiscernible) put this together the second 
time around? 
MR. SOLDINGER:  Yes, Councilmember. 
MR. WATTS:  And the outlook, we're still able to accomplish everything that was in our 
original plan for parks, support all the developments, additional (indiscernible), you 
name it, we've got it included there for the next five years.  Is that correct?  
MR. SOLDINGER:  Yes, Mayor and Councilmember.  It lasts for five years before it's 
required to be updated, but the assumptions are based on a ten-year outlook.  
MR. WATTS:  Okay.  I like the fact that it went down.  It's more conducive to building and 
our economics.  So thank you for that.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Councilwoman. 
MS. LARRABEE:  Paul, I just want to thank you for your work on this.  I know I've been 
the I guess, thorn in your side on the development fees, and I just I appreciate that we 
found something that does lower, especially that amount for single-family homes.  That 
lowering by almost 3,500 is really exciting.  So thank you.  I know it's got to raise one 
way or another.  So I appreciate your work, and I appreciate your patience with me.  I 
will no longer be the bump in the road.  
MR. SOLDINGER:  Thank you.  Appreciate that.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Thanks for your hard work on this.  Paul, this has been a long journey.   
And we see the results.  So thank you again.  Are there any comment cards?  
MS. BENDER:  No, Mayor.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Okay.  Then I'm going to close the public hearing on this.  Thank you.  
MR. SOLDINGER:  Thank you very much.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  And notice was given that items H and I were removed from the 
agenda, as was requested.  And now we'll have Council discussion and direction to the

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Town manager.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Merry Christmas.   
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  And then we'll move on to future agenda items.  And I have two.  One 
I'd like to have back.  For the future agenda, the overlay conversation again so that we 
can get that resolved with the density.  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  Yes.  He has voted to continue that.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Yeah.  All right.  So I just wanted to make sure we had that continued, 
and that we'll bring that back.  And then I want to see if we can take a look at what it 
would cost for Thistle with a chip and cape and have that really become more of a CIP 
project.   Anybody have anything else?  Can I get a motion to adjourn?  
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:  So moved.  
MS. LARRABEE:  Second.  
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  All in favor?  Aye.   
ALL:  Aye. 
MAYOR FRIEDEL:  Thank you.

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HAVING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, MAYOR GERRY M. FRIEDEL ADJOURNED THE REGULAR 
MEETING OF THE FOUNTAIN HILLS TOWN COUNCIL HELD ON DECEMBER 16, 2025, AT  
7:35 P.M. 
 
APPROVED: 
 
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GERRY M. FRIEDEL, MAYOR 
 
ATTEST: 
 
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BEVELYN BENDER, TOWN CLERK 
 
 
CERTIFICATION 
 
I HEREBY CERTIFY THAT THE FOREGOING MINUTES ARE A TRUE AND CORRECT COPY OF 
THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE 
TOWN OF FOUNTAIN HILLS, ARIZONA HELD ON DECEMBER 16, 2025.  I FURTHER 
CERTIFY THAT THE MEETING WAS DULY CALLED AND HELD, AND THAT A QUORUM WAS 
PRESENT. 
 
 
 
 
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BEVELYN BENDER, TOWN CLERK