June 15, 2022 Study Session Minutes

Meeting Minutes
Planning and Zoning Commission
Study Session

June 15, 2022 | 5:00 p.m. lan
Chandler City Council Chambers Laren CHANDLER
88 E. Chicago St., Chandler, AZ Community of Innovation
Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Heumann at 5:00 p.m.
Roll Call
Commission Attendance Staff Attendance
Chairman Rick Heumann Derek Horn, Director of Development Services
Commissioner Erik Morgan Kevin Mayo, Planning Administrator
Commissioner Sherri Koshiol David de la Torre, Planning Manager
Commissioner Michael Quinn Lauren Schumann, Principal Planner
Commissioner Jeff Velasquez Harley Mehlhorn, City Planner

Thomas Allen, Assistant City Attorney

Julie San Miguel, Clerk
Absent

Vice Chairman David Rose
Commissioner Kyle Barichello

Scheduled/Unscheduled Public Appearances

Members of the audience may address any item not on the agenda. State Statute prohibits the
Board or Commission from discussing an item that is not on the agenda, but the Board or
Commission does listen to your concerns and has staff follow up on any questions you raise.

Consent Agenda and Discussion
1. June 1, 2022 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes

Move Planning and Zoning Commission approve Planning and Zoning Commission meeting
minutes of the Study Session of June 1, 2022, and Regular Meeting of June 1, 2022.

CHAIRMAN HEUMANN confirmed there were no questions or comments from the Commission
regarding this item.

2. PLH22-0017 ANDY'S FROZEN CUSTARD

LAUREN SCHUMANN, PRINCIPAL PLANNER presented details regarding the request for
Preliminary Development Plan approval for site layout and building architecture for a new drive-
thru restaurant. The approximate one-acre site is located south of the southeast corner of
McQueen Road and Chandler Boulevard.

An Addendum Memo was presented to the Commission as the monument sign along McQueen
Road was revised after the posting of the memo.

COMMISSIONER VELASQUEZ asked Staff to present the elevation page and asked if the horizontal
elements and “drive thru” text is neon.

LAUREN SCHUMANN, PRINCIPAL PLANNER replied, that is correct and explained most of the wall
mounted signage and the “drive thru” text is plastic with neon on top of it. She further explained
there will be neon outlining the “drive thru” text, arrows, the banding on the tower feature, and
the banding on the awning over the serving area.

CHAIRMAN HEUMANN thanked the Applicant and Staff for coming up with something creative for
Chandler. He mentioned he liked the 300-foot separation for signage, and he rather see that than
banners. He asked if the “drive thru” sign was on all four corners of the building.

LAUREN SCHUMANN, PRINCIPAL PLANNER presented an image of the proposed signage and
stated the monument signs will be along the street and the one wrapping the corner has the same
drive thru sign on the canopy. She further stated the signs on the sides are magnetic to be
switched out for seasonal menu items and they will have lights that shines down.

CHAIRMAN HEUMANN clarified he was asking about the banding and signs on the building. He
asked if the “drive thru” sign will be on three sides of the building facing north, west, and south.

LAUREN SCHUMANN, PRINCIPAL PLANNER responded, yes, the “drive thru” signs would be on
three sides of the structure facing north, west, and south.

CHAIRMAN HEUMANN pointed out there is 120-foot queuing for the drive through and asked if so
many signs where necessary as it is obvious where the drive through is.

LAUREN SCHUMANN, PRINCIPAL PLANNER stated she speak with the Applicant regarding the
possibility of reducing it.

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CHAIRMAN HEUMANN stated the number of signs is taking away from the building and they are
not necessary since the location of the drive through is obvious.

COMMISSIONER QUINN disagreed and explained the Commission is, at some level, dictating
architecture and the Applicant only has a few elements where they can capture a 1950's vibe. He
stated the additional signs are less about the drive through around the corner and more about
creating a feel for the 50's.

CHAIRMAN HEUMANN stated there is enough to show the 1950s with the signage and other
elements around the building. He mentioned all the “drive thru” signs throw him off.

3. Cancellation of the July 6, 2022, Planning and Zoning Commission Hearing

Move Planning and Zoning Commission cancel July 6, 2022, Planning and Zoning Commission
Hearing.

Briefing
4. PLH22-0025 SOUTH VILLAGE CONSERVATION DISTRICT

HARLEY MEHLHORN, CITY PLANNER presented details regarding the request to establish a Historic
Conservation District in the area generally bounded by Arizona Avenue, Folley Street, Pecos Road,
and Delaware Street. The purpose of the conservation district is to document and honor the
heritage and history of the district and its residents, as well as, to encourage the preservation of
remaining historic structures within the district. He stated the presentation will begin with a brief
introduction of the historic preservation program, then information on the proposed Southside
Village Conservation District, and closing with future historic preservation opportunities. He
further stated in fall of 2020, the City Council adopted ordinance number 4936 creating the
Historic Preservation Program, the Historic Preservation Commission, and the position of Historic
Preservation Officer; thus, allowing landowners to recognize and protect historic resources within
the bounds of the city of Chandler. He further explained, the purpose of historic preservation is
to preserve architectural resources, to celebrate Chandler's collective past, to encourage
neighborhood preservation, and to discourage demolition of historic resources. He stated
Chandler has a tiered approach to historic preservation which allows for flexibility when
designating and recognizing historic resources and districts. He further stated a Heritage Site is a
site where there is a little to no remaining historical context, but is somewhere something
important to Chandler once happened; an example is La Hacienda or Chandler Heights Citrus
Camp both are Frank Lloyd Wright sites where there are no physical manifestations of the sites
exists today, but there is an opportunity to recognize that something was there in the past. He
further stated a Conservation District is a step up from that as it recognizes that something
important happened there in the past and there is remaining context on site. He stated a
Conservation District recognizes and encourage the preservation of the remaining resources; an

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example of this would be the historic company town of Goodyear and another is Southside Village.
He explained, Historic Preservation District is one of the two zoning overlays, and it disallows for
modifications to the exterior facade of the buildings that are street facing that would diminish the
historical context of the designated contributing structure; an example is the Silk Stocking
Neighborhood featuring midcentury homes. He stated the second zoning overlay is the Landmark
District or the Landmark Designation, he further stated this is the pinnacle of our historic
preservation program as it recognizes a site of special significance to the history of Chandler; an
example is the San Marcos Resort. He explained Southside Village Conservation District will have
a public hearing before the Historic Preservation Commission at the end of June. He stated as this
is a recognition district, it will not be an item before the Planning and Zoning Commission. He
presented images of the proposed district's boundaries and structures from the 1920's that are
still present today. He noted significant residents Zora Folley and former Mayor Coy Payne and
the momentous role the community's churches have had for more than fifty years. He stated
Southside Village was somewhat of a self-contained community as it had stores, restaurants, and
a roller rink, he reminded the Commission that many of these good and services were not
available to the people of Southside outside the boundaries of their neighborhood. He presented
historic photos and stories shared by the families people who once lived and some who still live
in the neighborhood and stated it was a privileged to hear such amazing stories over the past
year. He further stated the benefits of a conservation district is to recognize the history and
heritage of an area and to encourage preservation of remaining context. He explained, it allows
for physical markers of important places, like signs, pylons, and plaques. He stated although it is
not required step, becoming a conservation district is a good first step because it gets the
community accustomed to the process and talking about what it means to be a historic
community. He finished the presentation with images of possible future historic preservation
opportunities in Chandler.

CHAIRMAN HEUMANN stated this is an intriguing area and pointed out the past cultural division.
He asked if the north and south sides of the community collaborated on this and if they are excited
for the designation.

HARLEY MEHLHORN, CITY PLANNER responded there was input from both sides of the community
and currently the community is more cohesive.

CHAIRMAN HEUMANN mentioned this is conservation district is very cool and pointed out Zora
Folley who was a famous boxer and Coy Payne our former mayor was from this area.

COMMISSIONER MORGAN asked what is Planning and Zoning Commission's role and what kind
of actions will the Commission be helping with.

HARLEY MEHLHORN, CITY PLANNER replied, the Commission's role is to review zoning overlays.
He explained the two designations under the purview of this Commission are the historic
preservation district and then the landmark designation. He further explained the Commission

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would review both like any other zoning for appropriateness and compatibility, as much as one
can with historic overlay.

CHAIRMAN HEUMANN asked if Silk Stocking is national historic district.
HARLEY MEHLHORN, CITY PLANNER responded yes.

CHAIRMAN HEUMANN mentioned he remembered that going through years ago and a lot of the
neighbors working hard to get that done.

Member Comments/Announcements
None.

Calendar
The next Study Session will be held before the Regular Meeting on Wednesday, July 20, 2022, in
the Chandler City Council Chambers, 88 E. Chicago Street, Chandler, Arizona.

Adjourn

The meeting was adjourned at 5:26 p.m.

kevinayo, Secretary Rick Heumann, Chairman

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