May 2023 Minutes

City of Chandler — Regular Meeting (2023-08-01)

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PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD 
REGULAR MEETING MINUTES 
May 2, 2023 
 
1. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL 
Madam Chair Dykstra called the meeting to order on Tuesday, May 2nd, at 5:00 
p.m. 
 
a. Roll Call 
 
Members in Attendance: 
Madam Chair Melanie Dykstra 
Vice-Chair Tim Johnson 
Board Member Shawn Hsu 
Board Member James Montgomery 
Board Member John David 
Board Member Jegadesan Krishnamurthy  
Board Member Sue McInturf 
 
Members Absent:  
None 
 
 
Staff Members Present: 
John Sefton, Community Services Director 
Jeff Larsen, Parks Operations and Maintenance Senior Manager 
Erika Berry, Recreation Superintendent 
Joshua Adams, Business Systems Support Analyst 
  
2. SCHEDULED/UNSCHEDULED PUBLIC APPEARANCES 
 
a. None

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3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES 
 
a. Madam Chair Melanie Dykstra requested approval of the minutes from the 
April 19th, 2023 Parks and Recreation Board special meeting. Board Member 
Montgomery made a motion to approve. Board Member Krishnamurthy 
seconded the motion. The motion was approved unanimously. 
 
4. ACTION AGENDA  
 
a. Parks and Recreation Board Chair Election 
 
Madam Chair Dykstra explained the process of electing a Board Chair and Vice 
Chair per the Parks and Recreation Board rules and stated that the 2023 election 
would occur at this meeting. Board Member David made a motion to re-elect 
Madam Chair Dykstra as Chair. Board Member McInturf seconded the motion. 
No discussion was had. The motion was approved unanimously. 
 
b. Parks and Recreation Board Vice-Chair Election 
 
Madam Chair Dykstra called for a motion to elect a Vice-Chair of the Parks and 
Recreation Board. Board Member Krishnamurthy made a motion to re-elect 
Board Member Johnson as Vice-Chair. Board Member Hsu seconded. No 
discussion was had. The motion was approved unanimously. 
 
c. Madam Chair Dykstra brought up the topic of scheduling additional meeting 
dates to receive supplementary information and presentations. Madam Chair 
Dykstra suggested including meeting dates in the months of August and April. 
Madam Chair Dykstra explained that this would allow the opportunity to meet in, 
and tour, other locations as well as make it less complex to add meetings to the 
calendar. She described that it’s less challenging to cancel a scheduled meeting than 
it is to schedule a special meeting.  
 
Vice-Chair Tim Johnson stated that he opposed adding August. Board Member 
Montgomery stated that with the number of upcoming projects, excluding August 
would leave a large gap in time.  
 
Board Member McInturf inquired if any of the other Board Members already knew 
they would be out of town in August and stated that she would not be present for 
an August meeting if the motion passed. Madam Chair Dykstra stated that she 
would be out of town soon after the August meeting if approved.

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Vice-Chair Johnson stated that in the past, the Board had met every month, and, in 
that instance, it seemed as though there was not a large number of agenda items to 
warrant the frequency. Madam Chair Dykstra stated that the Board wouldn’t meet 
unless there were agenda and action items to meet about. She also stated that it 
would allow the opportunity to bring in additional information and presentations.      
 
Board Member Hsu stated that if the Board needed a special meeting it could 
always be added. Madam Chair Dykstra stated that it would be easier to cancel a 
meeting on the calendar than to schedule a special meeting that is not on the 
calendar. Madam Chair Dykstra explained that this is due to the dates being 
published and creating a special meeting requires a ratification to include the 
additional date. 
 
Board Member McInturf mentioned that since there were several new projects it 
would be advantageous to add the meeting dates. Vice-Chair Johnson inquired 
about new upcoming projects. Recreation Superintendent, Erika Berry, stated 
that the Tumbleweed Recreation Center Expansion, new pickleball courts, softball 
fields at Tumbleweed Park, and a couple of Park renovations are projects slated for 
the near future.  
 
Board Member Montgomery made a motion to approve the additional meeting 
dates in the months of August and April. Board Member Hsu seconded. Vice Chair 
Johnson was opposed. The motion passed with a count of 6-1 in favor of the motion 
to add meeting dates in the months of August and April. 
 
d. Tumbleweed Ranch Master Plan - Jody Crago 
Museum Manager, Jody Crago, presented information on the Tumbleweed Ranch 
Master Plan. 
 
Board Member Montgomery asked if there were two historic buildings at the 
current location. Mr. Crago stated that there were four. 
 
Madam Chair Dykstra asked if the plan still included a splash pad based on the 
conceptual design provided. Mr. Crago stated that there would not be a splash pad 
and that the area in the conceptual design will be designated for play structures 
instead. 
 
Madam Chair Dykstra inquired if the multipurpose space can be rented. Mr. Crago 
stated that they have in the past and plan to do so in the future. Mr. Crago also 
stated that the rentals are and would be facilitated by the Museum Foundation.

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Madam Chair Dykstra asked how many acres are included in the site. Mr. Crago 
stated that there are 20 acres.  
 
Madam Chair Dykstra inquired about water conservation and the types of 
vegetation on site. Mr. Crago stated that the grass on site has always been flood 
irrigated and there are no plans to change that at this time. Mr. Crago explained 
that the site is still to be designed and during the design phase is when that type of 
decision would be made.  
 
Madam Chair Dykstra asked if the trees in the conceptual design are current edible 
citrus trees. Mr. Crago answered yes. Madam Chair Dykstra inquired about what 
the City does with the citrus fruit. Mr. Crago stated that the general public can pick 
the fruit. 
 
Board Member McInturf stated that there is an agricultural club at one of the local 
High Schools and asked if they used the area too. Mr. Crago answered yes. 
 
Board Member Hsu inquired if cotton was grown at the location. Mr. Crago 
answered yes and one of the purposes of the site is to show the various types of 
crops grown in the region throughout the year. 
 
Madam Chair Dykstra commented that if the plan is to add more fruit trees or 
crops the City should research using the yields for local food banks or congregate 
meal programs. 
 
Board Member Montgomery asked if there were plans to include restrooms on the 
property. Mr. Crago stated that there would be restrooms even though they are not 
included in the conceptual design. 
 
Madam Chair Dykstra asked if there would be collaborations with the Special 
Events Division. Mr. Crago stated that since the Special Events Division resides in 
the same Department as Museums, the two Divisions would be collaborating to 
provide services and programming. 
 
Madam Chair Dykstra asked if a large-scale event was conducted would the City 
anticipate the Park not being used for anything else. Mr. Crago stated that there 
have been events with approximately three thousand participants that have not 
required the closure of the surrounding park space. 
 
Board Member Hsu inquired if there were any plans for a community garden. Mr. 
Crago stated that the City has tried a community garden at the location in the past 
with unsuccessful results and as such had no plans to incorporate one in the future.

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Madam Chair Dykstra asked for a motion to endorse the concept development 
Tumbleweed Ranch Master Plan as presented. Board Member McInturf proposed 
the motion to endorse. Vice-Chair Johnson seconded the motion. The motion 
passed unanimously. 
 
5. DISCUSSION / BRIEFING 
 
a. Tumbleweed Recreation Center Expansion Update - John Sefton 
Community Services Director, John Sefton, presented information on the 
Tumbleweed Recreation Center Expansion project.  
 
Mr. Sefton stated that the expansion will be split into two phases due to budgetary 
restrictions. Mr. Sefton explained that the first phase will include the multi-
generational, multi-functional programming space and the second phase would 
include the gymnasium. Madam Chair Dykstra asked if the City is willing to go out 
for another bond in the future. Mr. Sefton stated that there have been discussions 
on funding options, however, the City would not jeopardize its triple-A bond rating 
for additional funding. 
 
Board Member Montgomery asked if the architects addressed the courtyard 
upgrade. Mr. Sefton stated that there were discussions about the courtyard area 
and an alternate conceptual design was provided. Board Member Montgomery 
commented that he did not understand the need for the nice-looking upgrades but 
no change to the courtyard. Mr. Sefton stated that with budgetary restrictions it all 
comes down to levels of priorities. Madam Chair Dykstra commented that her 
interpretation of the expansion goal was to expand the usable indoor square footage 
and redesign the building for more use.    
 
Board Member Montgomery inquired about how the expansion will increase 
storage. Mr. Sefton identified the storage areas within the conceptual design. 
 
Board Member Hsu asked why the storage areas were not located near the 
gymnasium. Madam Chair Dykstra commented that the new storage appears to be 
for other functional areas that are being added in the expansion. 
 
Mr. Sefton explained that the City realizes the need for additional space and are 
making efforts to establish relationships with local schools and other organizations 
Board Member Montgomery inquired about the use at the Boys and Girls Club 
facility that is owned by the City. Madam Chair Dykstra inquired about the type of 
agreement the City has with the Boys and Girls Club for the use of the facility. Mr. 
Sefton stated that the City has an operating agreement. Mrs. Berry stated that the

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City can use the facility after hours and that the City has provided programming 
there in the past but is not offering any evening program at this time. 
 
Madam Chair Dykstra asked if the City had any agreements with the schools for use 
of field space. Mr. Sefton stated that the City uses Andersen and Bogle Junior High 
fields and owns the field lighting. Madam Chair Dykstra mentioned that a good 
topic for a future meeting would be information on the City’s Inter-Governmental 
Agreements. 
 
Board Member McInturf asked if the Tumbleweed Expansion would replace the 
Senior Center. Mr. Sefton stated that the intent of the expansion is not to replace 
any current facility and that operations at the Chandler Senior Center would continue 
as is for the foreseeable future. 
 
Board Member David asked if there were any estimates regarding the additional 
foot traffic due to the Tumbleweed Expansion in relation to the costs associated. 
Mrs. Berry stated that there was no such study conducted. 
 
Board Member Hsu asked if there are plans to increase the parking capacity for the 
expansion. Mr. Sefton explained that according to the City code, the current parking 
capacity meets the needs of the expansion. 
 
b. Recreation Facilities Operational Hours - Erika Berry 
Recreation Superintendent, Erika Berry, presented information on the operational 
hours for the Recreation Division’s six centers. The centers include Tumbleweed 
Recreation, Community, Senior, Nature, Tennis, and Snedigar Recreation. 
 
Madam Chair Dykstra asked how the City get its participation numbers. Mrs. Berry 
stated that depending on the center, the City uses various methods which include 
activity enrollment, memberships, door counters, and key fob swipes. 
 
Board Member Krishnamurthy asked which day of the week is there the most foot 
traffic. Mrs. Berry stated that most foot traffic is on Saturday. 
 
Board Member Hsu stated that if the facility closes at 8:00 p.m. people who are 
there close to 7:30 p.m. see that the facility is closing and might leave earlier than 
they would have if the facility was open until 9:00 p.m. or 10:00 p.m. Madam Chair 
Dykstra stated that according to the data provided, participation was low during the 
evening hours after 8:00 p.m. 
 
Board Member David asked if there have been customers requesting that the hours’ 
change. Mrs. Berry stated that they have had one customer submit customer

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feedback for the hours to be extended. A discussion ensued in reference to 
additional 
capacity 
with 
partnerships, 
community 
needs, 
and 
changing 
demographics. 
 
Board Member Hsu asked how many customers filled out the survey from which the 
data was provided. Mrs. Berry stated that the survey was sent to all membership 
holders and that approximately 400 out of 3,400 members responded. Board 
Member Hsu asked if there are plans to continue to survey. Mrs. Berry stated that 
City staff do one each quarter. 
 
 
6. MEMBER COMMENTS/ANNOUNCEMENTS 
 
a. Mrs. Berry introduced the Parks Operations and Maintenance Senior Manager, 
Jeff Larsen. 
 
7. CALENDAR ITEMS  
Events and Activities 
• 
Dive In Movie: Luca, May 6, 2023, 6 p.m. - 9 p.m. - Hamilton Aquatic Center, 3838 
S Arizona Ave, Chandler, AZ 85248 
• 
Military Bound Graduate Ceremony - May 9, 2023, 6 p.m. - 7 p. m. - Chandler City 
Hall, 175 S. Arizona Ave, Chandler, AZ 85225 
• 
You Look Marvelous Fashion Show - May 13, 2023, 11 a.m. - 2 p.m. - Chandler 
Center for the Arts, 250 N. Arizona Ave, Chandler, AZ 85225 
• 
Senior Prom - June 9, 2023, 5:30 p.m. - 8 p.m. - Chandler Community Center 125 
E. Commonwealth Ave, Chandler, AZ 85225 
8. ADJOURNMENT 
With no further items, Madam Chair Dykstra requested a motion to adjourn the 
meeting at 6:52 p.m. Vice-Chair Johnson made the motion to adjourn the meeting. 
Board Member Montgomery seconded the motion. The motion was approved 
unanimously.  
 
 
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Melanie Dykstra, Madam Chair 
Jeff Larsen, Park Operations and 
Maintenance Senior Manager