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Informal Meeting Minutes
Monday, January 23, 2023
9:00 AM
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
Maricopa County, Arizona 
(and the Boards of Directors of the Flood Control District, 
Library District, Stadium District, Improvement Districts 
and/or Board of Deposit)
"The mission of Maricopa County is to 
provide regional leadership and fiscally 
responsible, necessary public services to 
its residents so they can enjoy living in 
healthy and safe communities”
Board Members
Clint Hickman, Chairman, District 4
Jack Sellers, Vice Chairman, District 1
Thomas Galvin, District 2
Bill Gates, District 3
Steve Gallardo, District 5
County Manager
Joy Rich
Clerk of the Board
Juanita Garza
Meeting Location
Supervisors’/Sullivan Conference Room 
301 W Jefferson, 10th Floor
Phoenix, AZ 85003
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
The Board of Supervisors of Maricopa County, Phoenix, Arizona, convened in an Informal Session at 
9:00 AM on Monday, January 23, 2023, in the Supervisors’/Sullivan Conference Room 301 W Jefferson, 
10th Floor Phoenix, AZ 85003, with the following members present:  Clint Hickman, Chairman, District 
4; Jack Sellers, Vice Chairman, District 1; Thomas Galvin, Supervisor, District 2; Steve Gallardo, 
Supervisor, District 5 (entered meeting late). Absent:  Bill Gates, District 3. Also present: Juanita Garza, 
Clerk; Joy Rich, County Manager; Andrea Cummings, Legal Counsel; Mia Vargas, Minutes Coordinator.
PRESENTATION
Chairman Hickman started the meeting and spoke about the County Budget for FY2024. He 
talked about taxpayer money for services, consumer business spending, inflation, and the 
continued increase in interest rates. He said economists are predicting a recession in the near 
future and businesses are preparing for a change to the economy. He talked about tech job 
losses from major companies. He quoted economist Jim Rounds, “government entities need 
to continue to be cautious with revenue forecast”.  Chairman Hickman talked about preparing 
for 2024 by developing a sustainable spending plan. 
1.
PRESENTATION REGARDING THE FY 2024 BUDGET MARICOPA COUNTY JUDICIAL 
BRANCH
Judge Joseph Welty, Presiding Judge, Superior Court
Raymond Billotte, Judicial Branch Administrator (C-06-23-466-X-00)
Judge Joseph Welty, Presiding Judge of the Superior Court and Raymond Billotte, Judicial 
Branch Administrator presented the FY2024 budget.  
Judge Welty thanked the Board and Joy Rich, County Manager, and said it was a pleasure to 
work with the Board. He stated Maricopa County is a highly effective professional organization 
and he talked about priorities and finding alternate funding solutions. Judge Welty said the 
Judicial Branch has made great strides to reallocate the existing budget in order to meet the 
needs of the Judicial Branch without requesting additional funding.

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Judge Welty reviewed the above slide.  He stated the Judicial Branch is not seeking additional 
Capital Project Funding because the needs in Capital are being addressed by the County. He 
also addressed remodeling and projects in 2024. 
Judge Welty reviewed the above slide. He talked about the Criminal Information Unit and the 
need to fill this position to assist with phone calls, public request and wait time. He also talked 
about a Jury Administration position to assist with processing payments for juror’s time served.

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Judge Welty reviewed the above slide. He explained the different positions that need to be filled 
in the Court Administration. He talked about two social worker positions that have lost their 
funding and is looking for ways to continue their funding. Judge Welty stated that with the 
increased demands on court administration, the various personnel needs listed are imperative. 
Chairman Hickman asked for the title of the social worker positions to possibly get the new DES 
Director to investigate it. Judge Welty replied that the position title is C2C Resource Navigator.

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Judge Welty reviewed the above slide.

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Judge Welty reviewed the previous slide and talked about the FY2023 Staffing Study. He 
emphasized that Maricopa County is an innovative organization and the need for technology to 
enhance business practices. 
Judge Welty reviewed the above slide. He explained why the funding is needed For The Record 
(FTR) System and Remote Court Proceedings. Judge Welty said the pandemic created an 
urgency to implement the technologies and the continued need for that technology in the courts 
requires the ongoing maintenance of systems already in place.

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Judge Welty reviewed the above slide. He talked about needing a new Case Management 
System to work remotely in the field and the need for funds for the personnel to get that system 
up and running. He said he would work to partner with the State to help with licensing fees. 
Supervisor Galvin asked if the counties are working together in asking the State to cover the 
cost. Judge Welty said the Administrative Office of the Courts (AOC) responded, yes, the AOC 
began with the statewide system. He also explained why this system was needed in Maricopa 
County.

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Judge Welty reviewed the above slide. He explained why funding for a comprehensive 
workplace study could assist with resource allocation going forward.. 
Judge Welty reviewed the above slide. He explained the Special Revenue Fund and the 
Probation Fee Fund does not keep up with the costs of the positions they are designed to 
support. This deficiency is being managed through the General Fund Operating in the amounts 
shown.

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Judge Welty reviewed the above slide and talked about the three projects that were funded last 
year and to be able to carry forward the surplus that was not spent. He also talked about network 
segregation being more realistic financially than network independence.  
Chairman Hickman made a comment about network security. Judge Welty stated they have a 
shared interest in network independence and to come into compliance.

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Judge Welty reviewed the above slide.

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Judge Welty reviewed the previous slide and expressed gratitude to the Board on behalf of the 
entire organization.
Chairman Hickman made a few comments and thanked Judge Welty and Mr. Billotte for the 
presentation. 
Mr. Billotte  thanked the County Manager’s office and the Budget office for working on solutions 
for the issues. 
2.
PRESENTATION REGARDING THE FY 2024 BUDGET MARICOPA COUNTY JUSTICE 
COURTS
Anna Huberman, Presiding Justice of the Peace
Leonore Driggs, Associate Presider
Chris Reams, Administrator (C-06-23-470-X-00)
Anna Huberman, Presiding Justice of the Peace, and Chris Reams, Administrator, gave the 
presentation.  
Justice Huberman reviewed the above slide. She stated that the Justice Courts focus on careful 
management, with thought and thorough examination into projects. Justice Huberman also 
stated they are not requesting additional funds.

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Justice Huberman reviewed the above slide and gave an update on the South East Regional 
Center (SERC) opening date of April 2023. She said there have been fluctuations in eviction 
rates since the pandemic and are currently on the rise. Justice Huberman commented briefly 
on the new precinct changes and the new Justice of the Peace appointments.
Justice Huberman reviewed the above slide. She updated the Board on FY2023 requests.

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Justice Huberman reviewed the three previous slides. She summarized FY2023 Budget 
Request. 
Justice Huberman reviewed the above slide. She stated a local vendor with experience had 
been selected to begin a Staffing Study to be completed by the end of the fiscal year.

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Justice Huberman reviewed the above slide. She talked about Maricopa County  Justice Courts 
(MCJC) and the focus on the future. 
Vice Chairman Sellers commented on the San Tan Court appointment. Justice Huberman was 
thankful for a simplified process and thanked the Board. 
3.
PRESENTATION 
REGARDING 
THE 
FY 
2024 
BUDGET 
MARICOPA 
COUNTY 
CONSTABLE'S OFFICE
Nathan Wallace, Presiding Constable (C-06-23-469-X-00)
Nathan Wallace, Presiding Constable, and Patrice Goodman, Constable Administrator, gave 
the presentation.

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Constable Wallace reviewed the slide above and he explained why funding is needed for those 
three items.
Constable Wallace reviewed the slide above. He spoke about the net change in cost when 
restoring one position and inactivating the other.

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Constable Wallace said the net change between the two previously mentioned positions would 
be the Above Baseline Request as seen on the above slide. 
Constable Wallace reviewed the slide above. He stated that adding the second Warrant Deputy 
in the field would make it safer.

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Constable Wallace reviewed the three slides above. Ms. Goodman commented that the  
training from this program is above and beyond the standard. 
Constable Wallace reviewed the slide above. He said the current Warrant Deputy is a retired 
Chief of Police and he understands the scope of the job.

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Constable Wallace reviewed the slide above. Ms. Goodman commented on revenue 
projections and the increase in fines and fees.  
Vice Chairman Sellers commented on the challenging position of a Constable. Supervisor 
Galvin echoed Vice Chairman Sellers comments and appreciated their service to the 
communities.  
Chairman Hickman thanked Constable Wallace and Ms. Goodman for their presentation. 
4.
PRESENTATION REGARDING THE FY 2024 BUDGET MARICOPA COUNTY SCHOOL 
SUPERINTENDENT
Steve Watson, School Superintendent (C-06-23-468-X-00)
Steve Watson, School Superintendent, and Matt Morales, Chief Deputy, gave the presentation.  
Mr. Watson thanked the Constables for their service. He said he was glad to report the recent 
appointments of 70 School Board Members.

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Mr. Morales reviewed the slide above. He stated the increase funding is needed to continue 
operations. Mr. Morales said they no longer have a Finance Director and have been working 
with the County Finance Department to better understand their finances. 
Mr. Morales reviewed the slide above.

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Mr. Morales reviewed the slide above. Chairman Hickman asked about the percentage 
reduction regarding space. Mr. Morales explained the percentage of space and why the 
increase of funding is needed. 
Joy Rich, County Manager, asked Mr. Watson if they were going to be staying in their current 
location. Mr. Watson said, they are looking at different options. Ms. Rich asked them to keep 
her informed of any changes. 
Mr. Morales reviewed the slide above. Supervisor Sellers asked what Forest Fees are. Mr. 
Morales gave a brief explanation of the term Forest Fees. Cindy Goelz, Chief Financial Officer 
came forward to clarify the term. She stated it is Federal money that is given to counties with

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federal land because the counties cannot collect taxes on federal forest lands. That money is 
distributed to Transportation and Education within those counties. 
Chairman Hickman asked for clarification on the funding going forward for the two FTE’s. Mr. 
Morales responded saying the Forest Fees have been used to cover the two FTE employees. 
He said that funding source has been depleted and now there is a budget request to maintain 
those FTE’s.  Ms. Goelz clarified how the funding gets distributed. 
Mr. Watson reviewed the slide above and talked about how the funds would be used.

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Mr. Morales reviewed the slide above. 
Mr. Watson reviewed the slide above. He talked about the 70-100 students per day that utilize 
the accommodation school. Mr. Watson said these students need the opportunity to get an 
education so they do not end up on the street in the future. He commented on the resources 
that other schools had available to them.

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Supervisor Sellers asked how the state was involved in the funding process. Mr. Watson 
responded and said the state allocates a certain amount of money per student.  
Chairman Hickman questioned the funding request. Mr. Watson, talked about the importance 
of working with challenging students at accommodation schools. 
Supervisor Sellers asked how Maricopa County got involved with accommodation schools. Mr. 
Watson said a state statute allows for accommodation schools and the Board of Supervisors 
shall help in funding.   
Mr. Watson thanked the Board. Chairman Hickman thanked Mr. Watson for his service to the 
County.
5.
PRESENTATION REGARDING THE FY 2024 BUDGET MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFF’S 
OFFICE
Paul Penzone, Sheriff (C-06-23-467-X-00)
Paul Penzone, Sheriff, Russell Skinner, Chief Deputy, and Jim Prindiville, Chief Financial 
Officer gave the presentation.  
Mr. Prindiville reviewed the slide above.

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Mr. Prindiville reviewed the General fund slide above and talked about the impact of pay raises, 
salaries, and overtime. 
Supervisor Sellers asked how much of the increased overtime is due to the staff shortage. 
Sheriff Penzone explained the overtime is due to being understaffed.  Mr. Prindiville commented 
on overtime costs and how they are currently built into the payroll expenses.

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Mr. Prindiville reviewed the General Fund Other Critical Needs slide above and explained the 
needs in these categories. Sheriff Penzone commented on Fixed-Wing Airplane request and 
how important it is to have safe and reliable transport for the extraditions. 
 
Following questions from the Board, Sheriff Penzone and Mr. Skinner explained how the 
agreement with the Department of Public Safety operates and Mr. Prendiville talked about the 
useful life of the airplane requested.  
Sheriff Penzone commented on Deputy Service Aides and how that staffing has helped take 
some pressure off the deputies. 
Mr. Prindiville reviewed the Compliance Fund Critical Needs slide above. He said the increased 
cost of body-worn cameras was more than anticipated with the improved technology. 
Supervisor Galvin asked about other vendor options for body-worn camera contracts. Mr. 
Prindiville and Sheriff Penzone said they are looking at other vendors.

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Mr. Prindiville reviewed the previous slide and said the contract costs for the upgrades are the 
reason for the high costs going forward in addition to replacing end-of-life technology. 
Mr. Prindiville reviewed the slide above. Sheriff Penzone clarified the need for additional 
vehicles because there is a void not a need to replace vehicles.

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Chairman Hickman asked what the average cost of a vehicle was. Sheriff Penzone explained 
the costs vary based on supply and demand. He said the need is great right now due to the 
short supply in the past. 
Sheriff Penzone reviewed the Detention Fund slide above. He commented on the challenges 
with fentanyl in the jails and the importance of this budget request to combat that threat. Sheriff 
Penzone said the need for outside security personnel and improved equipment is necessary to 
keep staff and inmates safe.

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Mr. Prindiville reviewed the Summary slide above with budget requests totaling approximately 
$43 million. 
Mr. Prindiville reviewed the slide above.

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Chairman Hickman commented on ITR Post-Occupancy Findings and the new jail structure. 
He asked if the operations were going smooth so far. Sheriff Penzone explained the process 
and challenges with the new structure.
Mr. Prindiville reviewed each section on Capital Projects slide above. Sheriff Penzone 
commented on his interest in the MASH Animal Shelter. Chairman Hickman questioned the 
funding for the MASH program. 
~ Supervisor Gallardo entered the meeting ~
Mr. Prindiville commented on the S.W.A.T and K-9 facility all being located on the Durango 
Campus which would add continuity to those operations. 
Chairman Hickman asked about the evidence yard and its expanding footprint. Mr. Skinner said 
the evidence yard continues to grow as the County grows and the evidence property is moved 
out as cases close. 
Chairman Hickman thanked Sheriff Penzone, Mr. Skinner, and Mr. Prindiville for the 
presentation. 
6.
PRESENTATION REGARDING THE FY 2024 BUDGET MARICOPA COUNTY CLERK OF 
THE COURT
Jeff Fine, Clerk of the Superior Court
Michael Nimtz, Director (C-06-23-471-X-00)
Jeff Fine, Clerk of the Court, Mike Nimtz, Director of Clerk of Court and Nancy Rodriguez, 
Executive Director Clerk of the Court gave the presentation. He also introduced the team 
involved in putting this budget together. 
Mr. Fine reflected on the great team that he works with.

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Mr. Fine reviewed the slide above on Strategic Focus. 
Mr. Fine reviewed the slide above on Investments in Technology and explained each bullet 
point. He stated most of the information handled in the courts is done through technology which 
helps provide services remotely and access to justice for the public. Mr. Fine said technology 
will continue to assist the Clerk’s office in the management of documents and day to day 
business.

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Mr. Fine reviewed the slide above and explained each bullet point. He talked about using 
technology to provide customer service assistance and efficiencies that include AI with natural 
language process. Mr. Fine talked about legislative bills that may affect the courts this coming 
year. He mentioned a bill that would effectively consolidate the state Criminal Justice agencies 
information into one source and be available to the public. He said it was unknown if the bill 
would go through, but this serves as an example of what is possible with technology. Mr. Fine 
stated there is a lot of information coming from the Legislature at this time.

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Mr. Fine reviewed each bullet point on the slide above on Emerging Workforce Needs. He noted 
the Clerk of the Court is fortunate in regard to staffing and recent recruiting has gone well but 
staff still faces challenges with increased cost of living. Mr. Fine also emphasized the need for 
funding new positions and accommodating transfer of positions. 
Mr. Fine reviewed the slide above on Capital Improvement Request. 
Mr. Fine thanked the Board for their support and he said the employees are a priority because 
they do a great job taking care of the community.
Supervisor Gallardo asked Mr. Fine how court fees are established. Mr. Fine said the baseline 
for filing fees is set in the Arizona Revised Statute (ARS). He said there are provisions in ARS 
for waivers and deferral of fees. 
7.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
Vote to convene in Executive Session to consider the items on the Executive Agenda dated 
Monday, January 23, 2023, for Board of Supervisors and relevant Special Districts pursuant to 
the statutory authority listed for each item.
Motion to approve by Supervisor Jack Sellers, seconded by Supervisor Thomas Galvin
Ayes: Clint Hickman, Jack Sellers, Thomas Galvin, Steve Gallardo
Absent: Bill Gates
MEETING ADJOURNED
There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting was adjourned.  
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Clint Hickman, Chairman of the Board
ATTEST:
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Juanita Garza, Clerk of the Board