Minutes 1-14-2025

City of Chandler — Regular Meeting (2025-03-11)

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Meeting Minutes 
Industrial Development Authority 
Regular Meeting 
 
January 14, 2025| 7:30 a.m. 
Chandler City Council Chambers 
88 E. Chicago Street, Chandler, AZ 
 
 
Call to Order 
The meeting was called to order by President Charles Ertl at 7:32 a.m. 
 
Roll Call 
Commission Attendance  
 
Staff Attendance 
President Charles Ertl 
 
 
Julie Goucher, Accounting Senior Manager 
Vice President William Nolde 
 
Jenny Winkler, Assistant City Attorney  
Secretary Shannon Wilson 
 
Karla Lange, Management Assistant 
 
 
 
 
Director Lee Kroll  
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
          
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Other Attendees 
Zach Sakas, Bond Counsel, Greenberg Traurig, LLP 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Absent 
Treasurer John Lok

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Scheduled and Unscheduled Public Appearances 
None. 
 
Approval of Minutes 
1. 
Secretary Wilson moved to approve the December 10, 2024, Regular Meeting Minutes. 
Vice President Nolde seconded the motion. Motion approved unanimously (4-0). 
 
Briefing Items 
 
2. 
November 2024 Financials: Ms. Goucher presented the November Statement of Net 
Position that explained Total Current Assets with Cash in Bank of $233,521, and 
Investments of $1,118,266, providing Total Assets of $1,351,787. Intel application 
deposit of $3,000 is recorded as a Current Liability. The Beginning Net Position is 
$1,325,396 and a Year-to-Date Change in Net Position of $23,391, providing an Ending 
Net Position of $1,348,787. The Statement of Revenues, Expenditures, and Changes in 
Net Position for the month ended November 30, 2024, includes Investment Income of 
$3,912 and a bond application fee from Brinshore Development LLC of $3,000, providing 
a Net Change in Net Position of $23,391 through November.  
 
3. 
Discussion of possible refund of annual fee overpayments in connection with the 
Authority’s Revenue Bond Series 2012-A and Series 2012-B (Tri-City Baptist Church 
Project. 
Ms. Goucher voiced that as part of the annual audit for fiscal year 2023-2024, the city 
reports the outstanding balance of the bonds that have been issued through the 
Industrial Development Authority.  Representatives from Tri-City Baptist Church 
indicated that the bond issued to them had been paid in full as of December 2021, with 
an original maturity date of 2034. Ms. Goucher stated that the representatives at Wells 
Fargo Bank confirmed that the bond was paid in full.  She continued that despite paying 
off the bond, Tri-City Baptist Church continued to pay their annual administration fee of 
$2,000 in 2022, 2023 and 2024 to the Board, as invoiced by city staff, for a total amount 
of $6,000. Staff is recommending that the Board approve the overpayment of these 
annual fees be refunded to Tri-City Baptist Church.   
 
Mr. Sakas offered that sometimes bonds are sold to the general market and are publicly 
sold and there is a corporate trustee in place who keeps track and notifies the Board if 
a bond is paid off early.  The bond issued to Tri-City Baptist was a direct bank placement, 
so it was essentially like a bank loan. For this issuance, Wells Fargo acted as both lender 
and trustee, and at some point, Wells Fargo sold off its Trust business to Computershare,

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splitting the responsibilities, so when the bond was paid off, neither the Board or the 
City was notified.  He noted this situation is unique, due to the combination of 
circumstances, and that it is uncommon for no notification to occur.   
 
Responding to President Ertl, Mr. Sakas voiced that Intel has not experienced anything 
similar, because when Computershare purchased Wells Fargo’s Trust business, 
everything related to Intel shifted to Computershare with that purchase. In the case of 
Tri-City Baptist, the business was split, with the lending portion remaining with Wells 
Fargo and the trustee portion moving to Computershare.  He emphasized that it was 
challenging trying to get information from the bank on what exactly happened.  
 
 
Action Agenda 
4. 
Discussion and possible adoption of Resolution 2025-01, authorizing the return of 
annual fee overpayments to Tri-City Baptist Church.  
Vice President Nolde moved to approve Resolution 2025-01, authorizing the return of 
annual fee overpayments to Tri-City Baptist Church as presented.  Secretary Wilson 
seconded the motion. Motion approved unanimously (4-0). 
 
Member Comments/Announcement 
None. 
 
Calendar 
The next regular meeting will be held on Tuesday, February 11, 2025, at 7:30 a.m. 
 
Informational Items 
None. 
 
Adjourn 
 
The meeting was adjourned at 7:39 a.m. 
 
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Charles Ertl, President