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Informal Meeting Minutes
Monday, August 21, 2023
9:30 AM
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
Maricopa County, Arizona
(and the Boards of Directors of the Flood Control District,
Library District, Stadium District, Improvement Districts
and/or Board of Deposit)
"The mission of Maricopa County is to
provide regional leadership and fiscally
responsible, necessary public services to
its residents so they can enjoy living in
healthy and safe communities”
Board Members
Clint Hickman, Chairman, District 4
Jack Sellers, Vice Chairman, District 1
Thomas Galvin, District 2
Bill Gates, District 3
Steve Gallardo, District 5
County Manager
Jen Pokorski
Clerk of the Board
Juanita Garza
Meeting Location
Supervisors’ Conference/Sullivan Room
301 W Jefferson, 10th Floor
Phoenix, AZ 85003
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
The Board of Supervisors of Maricopa County, Phoenix, Arizona, convened in an Informal Session at
9:30 AM on Monday, August 21, 2023, in the Supervisors’ Conference/ Sullivan Conference Room, 301
W Jefferson, 10th Floor Phoenix, AZ 85003, with the following members present: Clint Hickman,
Chairman, District 4; Jack Sellers, Vice Chairman, District 1; Thomas Galvin, Supervisor, District 2;
Bill Gates, Supervisor, District 3 (remote); Steve Gallardo, Supervisor, District 5 (remote). Also present:
Juanita Garza, Clerk; Jen Pokorski, County Manager; Andrea Cummings, Legal Counsel; Mia Vargas,
Minutes Coordinator.
1.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
Vote to convene in Executive Session to consider the items on the Executive Agenda dated
Monday, August 21, 2023, for Board of Supervisors and relevant Special Districts pursuant to
the statutory authority listed for each item.
Motion to approve by Supervisor Jack Sellers, seconded by Supervisor Thomas Galvin
Ayes: Clint Hickman, Jack Sellers, Thomas Galvin, Bill Gates, Steve Gallardo
EXECUTIVE SESSION RECESSED
The Chairman recessed Executive Session
OPEN SESSION RECONVENED
After discussion in Executive Session, the Chairman reconvened the Board in open session in the Board
of Supervisors Conference Room.
~ Supervisor Gallardo joined the meeting in the Supervisors Conference Room ~
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PRESENTATION
2.
ECONOMIC FORECAST PRESENTATION
Presentation regarding the Economic Forecast.
Jim Rounds, Rounds Consulting Group (C-18-24-001-X-00)
Chairman Hickman introduced Jim Rounds, Rounds Consulting Group, to present the
Economic Forecast for Maricopa County.
Mr. Rounds said he would be discussing construction activity, labor, housing, and how it would
affect the budgeting.
Mr. Rounds reviewed the slide above and talked about misinformation. He said he would be
glad to answer questions or clarify any category if needed.
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Mr. Rounds reviewed the slide above and talked about a recession. He noted that with a lot of
money in the economy and a lot of government spending, it does not indicate a recession is
coming but it is something to pay attention to. The slide shows a version of the Gross Domestic
Product (GDP) numbers over the last 10 years.
Mr. Rounds reviewed the U.S. Employment slide above and he noted the increase in
employment has exceeded the numbers recorded just before COVID. He said the numbers are
okay but do not show a massive expansion.
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Mr. Rounds reviewed the above slide. He explained the employment forecast needs to be
between 250,000 and 300,000 jobs created per month. He noted a mild recession could
happen next year and jobs are forecast to be between 200,000 and 300,000.
Mr. Rounds reviewed the above slide. He said the Federal government expected to see a
downturn like the great recession.
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Mr. Rounds reviewed the above slide and he noted the graph shows how the economy was
actually performing.
Mr. Rounds reviewed the above slide and said the result was a lot of easy money in the
economy.
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Mr. Rounds reviewed the above slide. He said money was being pulled out of the economy so
interest rates went up.
Mr. Rounds reviewed the above slide. He said he was concerned that interest rates will continue
to rise. Mr. Rounds said balancing out the M2 would require pulling money out of the economy
at this time.
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Mr. Rounds reviewed the above slide. He noted the Federal rates were very low and there was
a lot of government spending. He talked about the money going toward infrastructure projects
and it was up to the individual states or counties to spend it wisely.
Mr. Rounds reviewed the above slide. He noted costs are high in a lot of categories and hitting
consumers. He said to expect costs to remain high for a little while longer.
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Mr. Rounds reviewed the Economic Index slide and said it is dropping a little bit.
Mr. Rounds reviewed the above slide and said jobs is one of the major categories.
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Mr. Rounds reviewed the Job Growth slide. He talked about the job growth between Nevada
and Arizona. He explained the recovery stage and growth in the two states and said ranking
can be deceiving.
Mr. Rounds reviewed the slide above and he explained that Arizona would likely recover back
to the top five following the next recession.
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Mr. Rounds reviewed the above slide that ranked the recovery from COVID by state.
Mr. Rounds reviewed the slide above comparing the job growth in Arizona, the Greater Phoenix,
and the U.S.
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Mr. Rounds reviewed the Per Capita Personal Income (PCPI) slide above and said Arizona has
done well recruiting people that has resulted in higher wage spin-off jobs and higher PCPI
percentages.
Mr. Rounds reviewed the slide above and noted people have been spending more of their
income on housing. He said there were a variety of circumstances that contributed to that level
of spending.
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Mr. Rounds reviewed the Housing Affordability slide above. He said housing affordability
problems are only temporary and the government should not put permanent policies in place
for a temporary problem. Mr. Rounds said the affordability issue will be around for a while.
Mr. Rounds briefly reviewed the slide above and said the median price has come down a little.
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Mr. Rounds reviewed the slide above. He said there were many factors that contributed to
homes not being affordable. He noted many of the items listed above that we do not have
control over. Mr. Rounds stated we need to identify what we can control.
Mr. Rounds mentioned the Bumper Sticker Case Studies slide above and referred to the
following slides as Case Study examples.
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Mr. Rounds reviewed the Case Study: Higher Ed slide above.
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Mr. Rounds reviewed the two Case Study: Environmental Tech slides above. He talked about
manufacturing and the redesigning of the economy to maximize revenue. He noted the County
can exceed the US average.
Mr. Rounds reviewed the above slide. He said he would like to work with the Board to increase
the county’s Return on Investment (ROI) that would have a huge impact in the economy. He
said it is important to be able identify specific goals in order to improve the economy.
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Chairman Hickman asked Mr. Rounds how the Board can make an impact? Mr. Rounds replied
having knowledgeable people on a topic can be influential in meetings. He also said he would
like to have a liaison to coordinate the Industrial Development Authority (IDA) and the Board.
Mr. Rounds would like to see more collaboration and information sharing that would help the
County and State bring in more money.
Supervisor Gallardo said he appreciated Mr. Rounds presentation. He said that the
communication between the Board and the IDA needs to be stronger. Supervisor Gallardo
talked about his role as a Supervisor and the need to work together with all municipalities to
improve the lives of all residents.
Chairman Hickman said changes have been made to work more with the IDA. He noted the
expectations based on tradition, the partnerships, and appointments of the representatives that
the Board has made.
Mr. Rounds said he can work with staff to increase connections and awareness of the needs in
Maricopa County, thereby making an economic impact. Supervisor Gallardo noted it takes
everyone coming together to have discussions on making the economy stronger.
Mr. Rounds reviewed the slide above. He noted the need to spend money on programs,
resources, and economic development policies that generate revenue and help the County run.
Supervisor Galvin asked Mr. Rounds if the diversity of people that are coming to Arizona is due
to jobs or just to live in the state. Mr. Rounds said it was a combination because people want
to move to an area with a thriving economy. He said it is a competitive time and we need
additional workforce programs that focus on productivity. He noted that the Board can be
involved in different areas to help with the workforce.
Chairman Hickman thanked Mr. Rounds for his presentation.
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Presentation only. No action taken.
3.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRESENTATION
Presentation regarding Economic Development.
Chris Camacho, Greater Phoenix Economic Council (C-18-24-006-X-00)
Chairman Hickman Introduced Chris Camacho, CEO of the Greater Phoenix Economic Council
(GPEC) who made the Economic Development presentation.
Mr. Camacho thanked the Board for the opportunity to give this presentation. He said he likes
being in partnership with the County and said he would like to spend his time talking about the
next chapter of the region’s economy. Mr. Camacho said there have been changes in the
manufacturing base, growth, and strategies being used moving forward.
Mr. Camacho reviewed the slide above. He noted GPEC is the entity that attracts quality
businesses around the world. He said he is focused on what is ahead regarding water,
workforce, and infrastructure.
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Mr. Camacho reviewed the slide above. He commented on the current economy and the great
recession from 15 to 20 years ago. He talked about the diverse outcome in the economy today
from healthcare to manufacturing. Mr. Camacho noted there needs to be a focus on in-demand
jobs so there will not be a supply and demand mismatch.
Mr. Camacho reviewed the slide above and explained the numbers on the graph, stating we
have exceeded on contract measures. He commented on the increased number of High Wage
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Jobs and the rise in the associated salary in these jobs. Mr. Camacho talked about the indirect
jobs that result from the average high wage jobs which is what fuels an economy. He also
commented on the importance of supply chain and cross support within an industry.
Mr. Camacho reviewed the slide above, naming some of the businesses that are located in
Maricopa County.
Mr. Camacho reviewed the above slide showing Locates by District. He noted that the map
shows more projects being balanced throughout Maricopa County.
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Mr. Camacho reviewed the YTD FY23 Prospect Activity slide above. He noted the Capital
Investment Potential amount will bring in revenue on construction sale tax and property taxes
for the County.
Mr. Camacho reviewed the Regional Results slide above.
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Mr. Camacho spoke about a five-year trend on revenue return as seen on the slide above.
Mr. Camacho explained each bill on the Policy slide above. Regarding HB2809, he noted
Arizona is competing with other states for large scale projects. He said companies are looking
for certified sites that are ready with public infrastructure. Mr. Camacho said Prop 400 is a
critical component for transportation as it relates to economic development.
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Mr. Camacho reviewed the FY23-25 Strategic Plan Goals slide above. He noted GPEC leads
an ambitious strategy for the future that addresses investment in infrastructure. He mentioned
a recent partnership with Startup Island Taiwan, an organization of Asian entrepreneurs who
are looking to invest in the United States and increase our international market.
Mr. Camacho said he is willing to tackle any of the challenges ahead. He noted he spent time
with Governor Hobbs, the Legislature, and Senators to discuss chip manufacturing and other
adjacent sectors of business. Mr. Camacho asked the Board if they had any questions.
Chairman Hickman asked Mr. Camacho, how the Board can help Maricopa County grow.
Mr. Camacho responded with two comments:
the County needs to stay healthy financially with strong budget, revenue, and
expenses.
the County needs to work on comprehensive strategic planning in every element of the
economy. This would entail filling the gaps, working with the business community, and
being vocal on expectations with the state.
Chairman Hickman noted the Board has inherited, from previous Board leadership, a sound
financial foundation. He also noted that Maricopa County continues to carry no debt. Chairman
Hickman said the Board looks for ways to be more effective with spending.
Vice Chairman Sellers commented on GPEC as an effective organization that attracts
businesses. He noted establishing a relationship with Taiwan years ago helped the State of
Arizona to get foreign business investors.
Supervisor Gallardo asked Mr. Camacho about the municipal rental tax deficit forecast. Mr.
Camacho said cities have been impacted by the loss of lease tax revenues that were dedicated
for public safety resources. He said the Legislature used it as a bargaining chip as the governor
signed Prop 400. Banning the rental tax will put a strain on the municipalities budget for public
safety and infrastructure. He noted a competitive-cost economy, competition to invest in
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infrastructure, and the ability to invest in the right workforce program will matter. He said he will
continue to give feedback to the County and the cities to make sure the State is in the
conversations for future economic needs.
Supervisor Gates thanked Mr. Camacho for the presentation. He noted Mr. Camacho’s
comments on Maricopa County maintaining a strong fiscal position with GPEC. He said the
Board has outsourced when it made sense which has led to great results. Supervisor Gates
asked Mr. Camacho if he had any concerns about the job growth percentages for Arizona as
shown on Mr. Rounds presentation. Mr. Camacho said he is optimistic on where Arizona stands
and explained the overview of job growth for the future.
Supervisor Galvin said of the many economic issues, he is concerned with water. He asked Mr.
Camacho how perspective businesses perceive Arizona regarding the water issues and how
do the people in Arizona perceive the water situation. Mr. Camacho said that many perspective
businesses start with a defensive position, stating Arizona does not have enough water. Mr.
Camacho talked about the 100-year water supply requirements. He said a frequent question
asked by outside manufacturers is why Arizona is inviting TSMC and Intel into Arizona. Mr.
Camacho responded that the semiconductor manufacturing facilities recycle 90 plus percent of
water and in some cases are zero net water users. He spoke about the water uses in Arizona
and that there is a balance to our growth. He said that unfortunately, he will have to address all
the bad headlines regarding water in our state.
Supervisor Galvin noted on the issue of water, policy makers must be careful on what they say
to avoid misinterpretation on headlines.
Chairman Hickman thanked to Mr. Camacho and Mr. Rounds for their presentations and
addressing the Board.
Presentation only. No action taken.
ACTION
4.
REQUEST FOR CASH DEFICIT SCHOOL DISTRICT LEVY
Per A.R.S. §15-991(A), the county school superintendent shall recompute the equalization
assistance for education for each school district pursuant to §15-971, subsection A and
compute the additional amount to be levied pursuant to §15-992, subsection B using the
property values provided by the county assessor under §42-17052.
Per A.R.S. §15-992(G), “At the time of levying taxes as provided in subsection E of this section,
the county school superintendent shall annually validate any additional primary school district
tax levy amount requests from each school district and levy the sum of the following amounts:
(10) On the recommendation of the county school superintendent and on approval by the
county board of supervisors before adoption of tax rates pursuant to §42-17151, a rate that
would result in a levy that equals any separately stated cash deficit from the prior fiscal year
resulting from an anticipated or actual deviation in the property tax roll, including resolutions or
judgments pursuant to title 42, chapter 16, articles 5 and 6.”
The County School Superintendent is recommending the following cash levy deficit be
approved to be calculated into the school district tax rate calculations pursuant to A.R.S. §15-
991:
Isaac Elementary School District #5 - $1,360,500 (C-37-24-005-X-00)
Motion to approve by Supervisor Jack Sellers, seconded by Supervisor Thomas Galvin
Ayes: Clint Hickman, Jack Sellers, Thomas Galvin, Bill Gates, Steve Gallardo
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5.
REQUEST FOR JUDGMENT AND RESOLUTION SCHOOL DISTRICT LEVIES
Per A.R.S. §15-991(A), the county school superintendent shall recompute the equalization
assistance for education for each school district pursuant to §15-971, subsection A and
compute the additional amount to be levied pursuant to §15-992, subsection B using the
property values provided by the county assessor under §42-17052.
Per A.R.S. §15-992(G), “At the time of levying taxes as provided in subsection E of this section,
the county school superintendent shall annually validate any additional primary school district
tax levy amount requests from each school district and levy the sum of the following amounts:
(10) On the recommendation of the county school superintendent and on approval by the
county board of supervisors before adoption of tax rates pursuant to §42-17151, a rate that
would result in a levy that equals any separately stated cash deficit from the prior fiscal year
resulting from an anticipated or actual deviation in the property tax roll, including resolutions or
judgments pursuant to title 42, chapter 16, articles 5 and 6.”
The County School Superintendent is recommending the following resolutions and judgments
be approved to be calculated into the school district tax rate calculations pursuant to A.R.S.
§15-991:
Phoenix Elementary School District #1 - $501,268
Riverside Elementary School District #2 - $46,657
Tempe Elementary School District #3 - $596,535
Mesa Unified School District #4 - $1,433,584
Isaac Elementary School District #5 - $65,485
Washington Elementary School District #6 - $200,207
Wilson Elementary School District #7 - $90,284
Osborn Elementary School District #8 - $464,333
Wickenburg Unified School District #9 - $19,704
Peoria Unified School District #11 - $273,258
Creighton Elementary School District #14 - $56,718
Tolleson Elementary School District #17 - $107,373
Murphy Elementary School District #21 - $43,295
Gila Bend Unified School District #24 - $5,664
Liberty Elementary School District #25 - $16,928
Kyrene Elementary School District #28 - $306,215
Balsz Elementary School District #31 - $257,316
Buckeye Elementary School District #33 - $78,012
Madison Elementary School District #38 - $48,904
Glendale Elementary School District #40 - $51,260
Gilbert Unified School District #41 - $400,263
Avondale Elementary School District #44 - $96,858
Fowler Elementary School District #45 - $56,518
Arlington Elementary School District #47 - $13,309
Scottsdale Unified School District #48 - $420,343
Palo Verde Elementary School District #49 - $18,308
Laveen Elementary School District #59 - $24,095
Higley Unified School District #60 - $69,891
Union Elementary School District #62 - $2,898
Aguila Elementary School District #63 - $20,825
Littleton Elementary School District #65 - $37,664
Roosevelt Unified School District #66 - $410,267
Alhambra Elementary School District #68 - $168,630
Paradise Valley Unified School District #69 - $679,118
Morristown Elementary School District #75 - $833
Litchfield Elementary School District #79 - $78,005
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Chandler Unified School District #80 - $1,865,137
Nadaburg Unified School District #81 - $8,144
Cartwright Elementary School District #83 - $142,107
Mobile Elementary School District #86 - $643
Dysart Unified School District #89 - $195,710
Saddle Mountain Unified School District #90 - $61,419
Pendergast Elementary School District #92 - $10,521
Cave Creek Unified School District #93 - $101,891
Paloma Elementary School District #94 - $4,689
Queen Creek Unified School District #95 - $324,500
Deer Valley Unified School District #97 - $959,181
Fountain Hills Unified School District #98 - $24,704
Buckeye Union High School District #201 - $111,093
Glendale Union High School District #205 - $240,067
Phoenix Union High School District #210 - $2,590,622
Tempe Union High School District #213 - $703,775
Tolleson Union High School District #214 - $219,422
Agua Fria Union High School District #216 - $14,871 (C-37-24-004-X-00)
Motion to approve by Supervisor Jack Sellers, seconded by Supervisor Thomas Galvin
Ayes: Clint Hickman, Jack Sellers, Thomas Galvin, Bill Gates, Steve Gallardo
6.
FY 2024 PROPERTY TAX LEVY RESOLUTION
Adopt the following Resolution regarding the “Maricopa County 2023 Tax Levy”
WHEREAS, pursuant to A.R.S.§ 42-17105 on June 26, 2023, the Board of Supervisors
adopted the FY 2024 budget which included a budgeted property tax levy of $659,075,503;
and
WHEREAS, pursuant to A.R.S. §48-252, on June 26, 2023, the Flood Control District of
Maricopa County Board of Directors adopted the FY 2024 Budget which included a budgeted
property tax levy of $77,344,624; and
WHEREAS, pursuant to A.R.S. §48-252 on June 26, 2023, the Library District Board of
Directors adopted the FY 2024 Library District budget which included a budgeted property tax
levy of $26,704,487; and
WHEREAS, pursuant to A.R.S. §48-954 on June 26, 2023 the Boards of Directors of the
County Improvement Districts adopted the FY 2024 Budgets; each Budget indicating a
corresponding budgeted property tax levy as detailed in the budget schedules adopted that
day; and
WHEREAS, pursuant to A.R.S. §42-17151 the Board of Supervisors is directed to “fix, levy
and assess the amount to be raised from primary property taxation and secondary property
taxation;” and “fix and determine a primary property tax rate and a secondary property tax
rate;”
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE MARICOPA COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS,
1. Pursuant to A.R.S. §§ 42-17151, 48-955, 48-3620 and 48-3903, and based on the budget
duly adopted for Maricopa County, the Flood Control District of Maricopa County, the Maricopa
County Library District and the Maricopa County Improvement Districts, the Board of
Supervisors determines and fixes tax rates as follows:
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•
Fiscal Year 2024 (Tax Year 2023) Maricopa County Primary Tax Rate at $1.2044 per
$100 of net assessed valuation with a levy of $659,075,503.
•
Fiscal Year 2024 (Tax Year 2023) Flood Control District of Maricopa County
Secondary Tax Rate at $0.1536 per $100 of net assessed valuation with a levy of $77,344,624.
•
Fiscal Year 2024 (Tax Year 2023) Maricopa County Library District Secondary Tax
Rate at $0.0488 per $100 of net assessed valuation with a levy of $26,704,487.
•
Fiscal Year 2024 (Tax Year 2023) for each of the assessable properties within County
Improvement Districts the tax levy and/or tax rate as set forth in the “Maricopa County 2023
Tax Levy” compiled by the Department of Finance.
2.
Based on the amount of taxes to be raised by property taxation determined by each
governmental entity set forth in the “Maricopa County 2023 Tax Levy,” the Maricopa County
Board of Supervisors has calculated the numerical tax rates necessary to raise the requested
revenues, and pursuant to the direction of each such government entity, levies the amounts of
taxes and sets the resulting tax rates, all as set forth in the “Maricopa County 2023 Tax Levy.”
The tax levy for desegregation expenses for school districts was included in the primary tax
pursuant to the Arizona Tax Court's ruling in Pima County, et al. v. State of Arizona, et al.,
TX2018-000737 where the Court found the Arizona Legislature’s inclusion of the
desegregation expense in the secondary tax pursuant to A.R.S. § 15-910 (L) (2018) (as
amended by Arizona Senate Bill 1529 (2018)) was inconsistent with the Arizona Constitution.
3. Pursuant to A.R.S. §42-18003, the Maricopa County Treasurer is directed to collect taxes
as required by law from the persons listed on the tax roll. The County Treasurer is now
therefore responsible for collecting the totals of all taxes levied on the roll. (C-18-24-000-X-00)
Supervisor Jack Sellers made a motion to adopt the FY 2024 Property Tax Levy Resolution as
printed in the agenda, which sets the Fiscal Year 2024 (Tax Year 2023) Primary and/or
Secondary tax rates for:
Maricopa County
Flood Control District of Maricopa County
Maricopa County Library District
The County Improvement Districts
Pursuant to the direction of each governmental entity, levy the amounts of taxes and set the
resulting tax rates for each as set forth in #2 of the Maricopa County Fiscal Year 2024 (Tax
Year 2023) Tax Levy Resolution.
In addition, direct the Treasurer to collect the taxes as detailed in #3 of the Agenda Item.
The motion was seconded by Supervisor Thomas Galvin
Ayes: Clint Hickman, Jack Sellers, Thomas Galvin, Bill Gates, Steve Gallardo
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7.
ADOPTION OF FULL CASH VALUE FOR BOND CALCULATION
Adopt 2023 Full Cash Value for Maricopa County as set forth in Attachment for the purpose of
calculating bond limits of cities, towns and school districts. (C-12-24-001-X-00)
Motion to approve by Supervisor Jack Sellers, seconded by Supervisor Thomas Galvin
Ayes: Clint Hickman, Jack Sellers, Thomas Galvin, Bill Gates, Steve Gallardo
OPEN SESSION ADJOURNED
The Chairman adjourned the Informal meeting and reconvened the meeting in Executive Session.
______________________________
Clint Hickman, Chairman of the Board
ATTEST:
____________________________
Juanita Garza, Clerk of the Board